The coldest upper air of the winter will be passing over Kent tomorrow. I'm looking forward to seeing what the maximum temperature will be with -9c (850 Hpa's). . I suspect I'll still scrape a near average 7c.

You'll need to carry on waiting, then, as the -9s won't be any closer than the Netherlands!

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/850-hpa/3h.htm

That "snow in the Sahara" article didn't help either.... no snow since 1979, then they get five lots in the last seven years. 'Snot fair, as the kids say!

I realised the other day that what we're seeing is very unusual at this time of winter. Normally persistent high pressure would lead to a gradual chilling effect, dew giving way to frost and eventually layers of the stuff lingering in the shade all day long. The dewpoint would fall, too, as the stagnant air gradually dries out.

This time we're looking at days on end of dry weather, but with dewpoints generally above zero... that kills any prospect of frost lingering all day, and the moisture in the air means it won't cool down as much at night either.

The reason, of course, is that as our high wobbles around it continually entrains moisture (and warmth) top-ups from the Atlantic, meaning it feels like an autumn calm spell rather than a wintry high.

I'd rather have this than gales and torrential rain any day, but as someone who loves snow it's just as bad in terms of potential!

Every year that passes makes me realise all the more just how lucky I was to have lived through the 80s and 90s. Twenty or more years on and I do wonder if we'll ever see proper winters again!

The best option is to go abroad every winter to see the snow and make up for missing life years of not seeing snow here.  I am turning 50 next year and now planning to go to Lapland to see snow on my birthday since I was born in Jerusalem and had 30cm of snow in 1973.  Also being 49 now and not able to see much of snow since I was a kid in the 80's snowfalls so will start making up by seeing snow proper every winter by going abroad.  I suggest you can do it Darren to go abroad at least a week somewhere with snow. 

Dont you just know it. This pattern in July would be stunning.  

Possible, but most recent summers have brought periods of extreme heat to the south. Last year was a little different, but we still easily reached 30C without a mainline feed of warm air. Summers are as different to winters when comparing now to the 1980s. 

Cyprus is a lot colder than here with Nicosia night temps of -1.3C and -10.8 in Troodos with 75cm of snow at the top and 43cm of snow at Jubliee hotel area.  Today wall to wall sunshine and very clear Alpine type weather there.

Live video of the drive in the snow at Troodos, so beautiful white covered trees against the sharp blue 

https://www.facebook.com/Kitasweather/videos/467906658278955 

Today sunny and temperatures will just rise back to low teens but expecting more cold and rainy weather in Nicosia with 4 days of single digit temps since 1992 when it lasted over a week and coldest winter since 1950 thanks to the Philippines Volcano ash in 1991 had brought extreme cold in middle East and Europe except UK was the warmest place in N Hemisphere.

Yes same here too, I hate high pressure in winter for that reason, it's just never cold here, go into the valley bottom and it is a different matter.

It has not been under -0.9c under this high pressure and most of the time it has been frost free.  We are also quite exposed to the NW here so any wind over the top of the high and it's frost free.

This morning it is frosty but that is because upper air temps are actually cold. Still not actually an air frost at 0.4c.

Our coldest temp of the season and the only one under -1c was -3.6c in November after a weekend of snowfalls. 

More like 2018 if this HP was over the summer months but worried will have another cold wet summer as I notice summer max average had dropped a lot to 18-19C and winter up to 9C compare to 90's early 00's when it was 7C and 24-25C in summer months.  London old agerage was 6C to 22C in summer to now 9C to 19-20C not 23-24C as supposed to be due to GW.

Lowest temp here was -3.6C on January 6th. However, in the valley I am reliably told it was -7.5C.

I used to see average lowest for frosty weather from -2C in October to -10C to -11C after a northerly blast and often -5 to -8C under the HP like today type but now i see is less cold frosty weather as low as -3C or -4C at best in mid winter.  That not the case in the past as I get those in late October to November and around April but not mid winter.  No desire to resume recording weather data here since temperatures increased a lot in winter and decreased in summer months which becoming more extreme temperate than normal UK temperate climate range from 16-17C  to around 10C range on average, I don't mind if resuming data if winter going to be average 9C as long summer months should be by now 25-26C in London an 24-25C in Birmingham.  All other places abroad their summer average had gone up but not here.  

Last April was a weird one. It's not often you get a notably cool, but also a notably dry and sunny month in the warmer half of the year. It's on a par with mild, dry and sunny winter months. 17 air frosts where I used to live was pretty extraordinary and that would be decent enough for one of the winter months to do that, never mind April.

The sunshine and the dryness actually meant I didn't mind last April though. After the frost had cleared, it felt decent enough in sunshine and light winds. The worst kind of month would be something like April 2012: cold, wet, sleety and unsettled for the entire month.

The lowest temperature here has been -2.4C. Utterly dire and depressing beyond words. Only 2013/14 was worse at this stage and it got down to -2.5C on the 24th January so looks like we'll even fall behind that atrocity as this mind-numbing worthless rot trundles on relentlessly 

Plenty of high pressures have been cold and frosty in the past but this is utterly woeful, useless and hideous like pretty much everything we get now. It doesn't even feel like high pressure. It's relentlessely windy and no different to the toxic cool zonal garbage that has written off January year after year since the mid-2000s.

One sub-zero night in the last 10 and that was on Tuesday when it dropped to all of -0.9C. Max of 5.5C today and clear skies tonight. There should be a frost but no the temperature is just stuck between 2 and 3C as it was all of last night 

January used to be one of the most interesting months of the year. Now it's a coma-inducing borefest year-in-year out. Just 3 years in 18 when it has produced more than 2cm of lying snow. A stat you would expect in coastal Cornwall. For here any other 18 year period it would be more like 3 years that didn't produce more than 2cm 

It's actually been colder in the last decade than it was in the 90s and 2000s but that makes no difference at all. The lack of snowfall just gets more and more propesterous. Last January was the coldest for 37 years but was virtually snowless. Just a wet cold horror show with less snow than most Januaries 3 or more degrees warmer would have had in the past 

I'm sure theres a term for what is essentially the seasonal opposite of an Indian Summer.

Very pleasant if you dressed well for it, however April was catastrophic for gardening down here in the south with many seed trays in my greenhouse throwing up malformed stunted plants due to the cold. Sadly the year never really improved in that regard imby with a succession of dull weather and no real heat (my bias is towards weekends of course when i'm off!). Although it was pretty good the further north you went if memory serves.

On a personal level i'm hoping to forget 2021 pretty quickly, including the first half of this winter. 

Down to -6c here last night (would probably have dipped lower if cloud hadn't moved in!) - lowest for at least a couple of years.   

What the reason for the clouds to move in and doing nothing? what a fool UK climate is when you see everywhere have a weather action for winter with snowfalls.

Last night we were down to -3c (coldest so far this winter!)

8th night of frost!

Last winter on NYE/NYD we dipped down to -7c at night.

What is really bugging me is that we can't see to manage ice days or freezing fog especially the longevity of this ridge - daytime temperatures are/were still up to +8c which is at or above average when years ago high pressure would leave us with freezing fog and ice days etc.

A "blackberry winter" I believe the term is for the winter equivilent of an Indian summer.

Yes, there were reports from across most of Western Europe about the damage the hard overnight frosts were doing to the crops. Unfortunately, damage is often the consequence of interesting/unusual weather.

That's interesting, another one to add to my weather vocab.

Hopefully theres not another one forthcoming! 

Here in Edinburgh, the temperature just keeps on refusing to drop, even whilst the southerners have been seeing plenty of frost just lately under high pressure (yet more evidence that it generally, the southerners who get most of any interesting weather which is around).

Our lowest temperature of the entire winter was only down to -2.5°C on Christmas morning whilst our lowest temperature of this month (which should be our coldest month of the year on average) was only down to -2.0°C on 6/1/22 at Edinburgh Gogarbank.

At Edinburgh Gogarbank, we have had a total of just 3 official air frosts during this month far which is only 30.0% of the 1991-2020 January average for here with not much more than a week to go until the end of this month.

Over the winter as a whole, we have had a total of 7 air frosts at Edinburgh Gogarbank which is only 23.6% of the 1991-2020 winter average for there, and we are now more than halfway through the winter, and in what should be the winter equivalent of high summer.

Those are absolutely shocking statistics, especially when you consider that this winter had so much going for it in the build up to it in terms of all of the various analogues which were in favour of a cold winter this time (i.e. weak/moderate La Nino, easterly QBO, favourable position within the solar current solar cycle, etc.).