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Heavy Weather 2013
15 July 2022 11:40:48
Unprecedented



Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Col
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15 July 2022 11:46:30

Unprecedented

https://youtu.be/ctnB5LkPK9k

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Very stern. This is clearly no 'ordinary' warning.


This reminds me of the tone & gravitas of the first lockdown back in March 2020. All that was missing was the lectern.

Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
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Brian Gaze
15 July 2022 11:51:53

I've added a heatwave tracker which will regularly be updated with revised probabilities and actual outcomes.


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/weather-news/6263/uk-heatwave-tracker-july-2022


 

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Girthmeister
15 July 2022 11:53:37

Unprecedented

https://youtu.be/ctnB5LkPK9k

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I applaud the MO for releasing that. It should be shown on National TV as part of news bulletins from now until Monday morning, with an updated version (with "here's what happened yesterday") for Tuesday.

nsrobins
15 July 2022 12:23:30


 


I applaud the MO for releasing that. It should be shown on National TV as part of news bulletins from now until Monday morning, with an updated version (with "here's what happened yesterday") for Tuesday.


Originally Posted by: Girthmeister 


Agreed. Temperature related extremes kill more people than floods, wind and snow combined (in this country) and are generally overlooked.

Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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Bolty
15 July 2022 12:29:02

I work nights and depending on how hot things get on Monday, I might ask for Monday night off work. If it gets too uncomfortable, there's no way I'll sleep Tuesday, not to mention work is like a giant metal oven in a heat wave anyway....

Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Bolty
15 July 2022 12:50:28

IMO, if the Met Office sees fit for red warning, and there is the real possibility that 40°C will be hit - and quite widely too, the government should just call for all non-essential businesses in England, Wales and the Scottish Borders to close on Monday and Tuesday, citing a "possible danger to life". Calling two emergency bank holidays would probably be sufficient, but there's very little chance any of this will be implemented, unfortunately.

A stay-at-home order would be useless as people will just flood to the beaches or lakes etc, in weather like this, and police will clearly have better things to do than enforce that...

There seems to be a lot of complacency on social media at the moment, and I think a lot of people could be caught out with this. This isn't just a bog-standard summer heat wave that we're used to, it is proper, dangerous heat that has the potential to kill. As much as the weather enthusiast in me wants to see the UK record 40°C, I just hope too many people don't suffer with this.

Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
TimS
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15 July 2022 12:52:16

Probably not a straw in the wind, but the models generally have today peaking at 27C in and around London. Currently only 24C at nearly 2pm. I wonder if today will be undercooked despite being as sunny as forecast. Or one of those late peaks we get on sunny days under moderate upper air temps.

Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Heavy Weather 2013
15 July 2022 12:53:16


IMO, if the Met Office sees fit for red warning, and there is the real possibility that 40°C will be hit - and quite widely too, the government should just call for all non-essential businesses in England, Wales and the Scottish Borders to close on Monday and Tuesday, citing a "possible danger to life". Calling two emergency bank holidays would probably be sufficient, but there's very little chance any of this will be implemented, unfortunately.

A stay-at-home order would be useless as people will just flood to the beaches or lakes etc, in weather like this, and police will clearly have better things to do than enforce that...

There seems to be a lot of complacency on social media at the moment, and I think a lot of people could be caught out with this. This isn't just a bog-standard summer heat wave that we're used to, it is proper, dangerous heat that has the potential to kill. As much as the weather enthusiast in me wants to see the UK record 40°C, I just hope too many people don't suffer with this.


Originally Posted by: Bolty 


The NHS will collapse and many people will die, let’s remember there is still covid pressure and many ambulance services are already under huge pressure. The billy big bollocks we keep seeing on social media will no doubt drink themselves stupid and end up in hostiptal.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
15 July 2022 12:55:14
Let’s also not forget. I suspect British farming will be devastated. Live stock will be lost in huge numbers.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Col
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15 July 2022 12:55:32
These serious warnings have got me thinking.
Does anybody remember a TV drama from what must be at least 15 years ago about an unprecedented heatwave in the UK? I think temperatures were around 40C so much as is being predicted now. The one (harrowing) moment I can remember is a mum leaving her young children in a car in full sunshine to do some shopping and when she returned, they were dead from heatstoke. What was this, somebody must remember.
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
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westv
15 July 2022 12:58:25

Let’s also not forget. I suspect British farming will be devastated. Live stock will be lost in huge numbers.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I really don't see that happening over the two days of the heatwave but then I'm no farmer.

At least it will be mild!
moomin75
15 July 2022 13:01:16

These serious warnings have got me thinking.
Does anybody remember a TV drama from what must be at least 15 years ago about an unprecedented heatwave in the UK? I think temperatures were around 40C so much as is being predicted now. The one (harrowing) moment I can remember is a mum leaving her young children in a car in full sunshine to do some shopping and when she returned, they were dead from heatstoke. What was this, somebody must remember.

Originally Posted by: Col 


I do remember this yes.

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
idot
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15 July 2022 13:02:02

These serious warnings have got me thinking.
Does anybody remember a TV drama from what must be at least 15 years ago about an unprecedented heatwave in the UK? I think temperatures were around 40C so much as is being predicted now. The one (harrowing) moment I can remember is a mum leaving her young children in a car in full sunshine to do some shopping and when she returned, they were dead from heatstoke. What was this, somebody must remember.

Originally Posted by: Col 


 


yes - i think it was called Criminally Neglegent Parent, or similar!

https://twitter.com/JohnathanSizz 

 
Bertwhistle
15 July 2022 13:03:01

These serious warnings have got me thinking.
Does anybody remember a TV drama from what must be at least 15 years ago about an unprecedented heatwave in the UK? I think temperatures were around 40C so much as is being predicted now. The one (harrowing) moment I can remember is a mum leaving her young children in a car in full sunshine to do some shopping and when she returned, they were dead from heatstoke. What was this, somebody must remember.

Originally Posted by: Col 


 


It was a docudrama from 2005, and I can't trace it on the net Col.


The amazing thing was the peak heat was in September after a gradually intensifying August warm up.


Think it reached 43. It was a future set up for 2006 triggered by the Euro heatwave of 2003.


Hah- found it.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810893/


 

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Heavy Weather 2013
15 July 2022 13:09:57


 


I really don't see that happening over the two days of the heatwave but then I'm no farmer.


Originally Posted by: westv 


Why don’t you see it happening. They are not people who can walk to to sink and have a glass of water. Many farmers are reporting issues with water on brooks and ditches.


We know humans WILL die next week, so I’m suprised your can’t see this happening.


 

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
haggishunter
15 July 2022 13:12:04


 


 


It was a docudrama from 2005, and I can't trace it on the net Col.


The amazing thing was the peak heat was in September after a gradually intensifying August warm up.


Think it reached 43. It was a future set up for 2006 triggered by the Euro heatwave of 2003.


Hah- found it.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810893/


 


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


 


This just reminded me of the 2003 BBC fictional documentary "The Day Britain Stopped" - where a cascading failure of overburdened transport systems end in tragedy during an all out national rail strike brought on by a further series of fictional major rail crashes following on from the actual multi fatality accidents at Ladbroke Grove, Hatfield, Great Heck and Potters Bar in 99-2002 period. 

Col
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15 July 2022 13:13:09


 


 


It was a docudrama from 2005, and I can't trace it on the net Col.


The amazing thing was the peak heat was in September after a gradually intensifying August warm up.


Think it reached 43. It was a future set up for 2006 triggered by the Euro heatwave of 2003.


Hah- found it.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810893/


 


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


Thanks, that is definately what I was thinking of. Did try a search earlier but couldn't find it.

Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg
Rob K
15 July 2022 13:15:39


Probably not a straw in the wind, but the models generally have today peaking at 27C in and around London. Currently only 24C at nearly 2pm. I wonder if today will be undercooked despite being as sunny as forecast. Or one of those late peaks we get on sunny days under moderate upper air temps.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


 


ARPEGE had a peak of 26C in a narrow strip in the Thames Valley and 25C more widely in the SE. Heathrow is at 25.9C at 2pm so seems about right. 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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westv
15 July 2022 13:16:44


 


Why don’t you see it happening. They are not people who can walk to to sink and have a glass of water. Many farmers are reporting issues with water on brooks and ditches.


We know humans WILL die next week, so I’m suprised your can’t see this happening.


 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I just don't see devastation in huge numbers happening. If it was weeks then maybe but this us 2 days. 

At least it will be mild!
Ally Pally Snowman
15 July 2022 13:17:41


 


 


ARPEGE had a peak of 26C in a narrow strip in the Thames Valley and 25C more widely in the SE. Heathrow is at 25.9C at 2pm so seems about right. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Its 26c at Heathrow now. 


Lol I hadn't fully read your post Rob. 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Surrey John
15 July 2022 13:24:20


 


Its 26c at Heathrow now. 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Heathrow is always a bit hotter in full sun and no wind,


huge concrete areas, warmed by huge air conditioning vents from the buildings, and as a bonus jet engines of planes queuing on the taxiways warming the outfield


 

Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire
35m ASL
Heavy Weather 2013
15 July 2022 13:25:59


 


 


Heathrow is always a bit hotter in full sun and no wind,


huge concrete areas, warmed by huge air conditioning vents from the buildings, and as a bonus jet engines of planes queuing on the taxiways warming the outfield


 


Originally Posted by: Surrey John 


This has been debated and discounted for years. Next.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Col
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15 July 2022 13:27:08


 


 


Heathrow is always a bit hotter in full sun and no wind,


huge concrete areas, warmed by huge air conditioning vents from the buildings, and as a bonus jet engines of planes queuing on the taxiways warming the outfield


 


Originally Posted by: Surrey John 


Here we go :)

Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg
Hungry Tiger
15 July 2022 13:32:47

These serious warnings have got me thinking.
Does anybody remember a TV drama from what must be at least 15 years ago about an unprecedented heatwave in the UK? I think temperatures were around 40C so much as is being predicted now. The one (harrowing) moment I can remember is a mum leaving her young children in a car in full sunshine to do some shopping and when she returned, they were dead from heatstoke. What was this, somebody must remember.



Originally Posted by: Col 


I watched that - and at the time everyone thought it was a bit over the top. Frightens me to death when I think we're about to get a taste of it.


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