Summer 2022 Heatwave thread· Page 35

Gusty
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17 July 2022 12:05:34

Ill be following that closely, thanks, given my son will be baking at St Martin’s Plain on his CCF camp.

If you fancy seeing what’s happening up in the downs then here’s mine, at Little Bursted Vineyard https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ICANTE35

Originally Posted by: TimS

Thanks Tim. Nice location. I love the valley bottom data in provides (judging by the low minima). Duly bookmarked.

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The Beast from the East
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17 July 2022 12:07:34

#852

With record-breaking heat expected, should pubs in areas of the UK covered by the red warning stop serving alcohol on Monday and Tuesday?

— TheWeatherOutlook (@TWOweather) July 17, 2022

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze

I assume you are trying to troll me . If my spoons closes, there will be riots

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scillydave
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17 July 2022 12:11:37

#853

Yep weve got used to them but they are truly historic charts. Nothing compares in the TWO era imo.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman

Exactly historic, unprecedented extraordinary- there aren't really the superlatives to describe this it feels.

The temperatures likely tomorrow and Tuesday (particularly if we get really high e.g. 42/43c) are unlikely to have been reached in the UK for thousands of years, perhaps all the way back to the last interglacial period 115,000 years ago.

We can't know for certain of course but it's a fascinating if scary thought.

Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

The Beast from the East
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17 July 2022 12:12:13

#854

Originally Posted by: Retron

What happened to Helen Young? I used to really fancy her back in the late 90s.

I think Helen Willetts began working for the BBC in 1999, and still looks the same!

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westv
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17 July 2022 12:15:55

#855

What happened to Helen Young? I used to really fancy her back in the late 90s.

I think Helen Willetts began working for the BBC in 1999, and still looks the same!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East

According to wiki

Since her retirement from BBC Weather she has co-authored a children's book, Discovery Plus: Weather & Sky.[3] She also acts for the London Borough of Sutton as an Ambassador for the School Travel Plan, leading assemblies and lessons on environmental issues such as weather/climate change, to all age groups from Nursery School children up to learned adults.[2][4]

Edited by user 17 July 2022 12:17:19 | Reason: Not specified

At least it will be mild!

Essan
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17 July 2022 12:17:57

#856

I haven't seen a single bird in my garden all morning (although there was a red kite soaring over earlier). Despite it being the only place for water round here (apart from neighbour's paddling pools)

Thankfully, the sparrows all fledged a week or so ago. I guess they have fled to somewhere cooler! I wonder if they somehow know what's coming?

Andy
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johncs2016
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17 July 2022 12:18:36

#857

https://weatherobs.com/ gives a good graphical overview. Includes some unofficial stations too I think.

Originally Posted by: Rob K

By unofficial, I will assume that you mean stations whose WMO numbers begin with 99 instead of 03 such as the botanic gardens in Edinburgh and the downside here is that you can only get data for those stations for the last week, although even that is more than you would get elsewhere.

Although the botanic gardens in Edinburgh is still classed as a Met Office station, it seems to have lost that status by quite a lot as such over recent years and fallen more into the shadow of nearby Edinburgh Gogarbank which is an official station with a WMO number that starts with 03..

In fact, the botanic gardens in Edinburgh's own website used to be really good at publicly supplying summaries of all of its past data from 2009 onwards. However, they stopped providing access to that data at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic back in 2020 and since then, they have also removed all of the links to that past data on their website.

Luckily, I was able to grab that data at an earlier time when I was able to do so and thus, use that for my various reports on this forum. Because of that, I still have that data on my own systems.

Had I not done that back then and had I now been looking for that data, there is no currently no way which I know of, of being able to get that data and I think that it is so sad that this has now become the case.

Edited by user 17 July 2022 12:21:50 | Reason: Not specified

The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Rob K
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17 July 2022 12:18:46

#858

30C breached already today, 30.1C at Santon Downham at 1pm. I think the 31-32 forecasts may be underdone.

Edit: also 30.1C at Chivenor right on the coast in Devon.

Edited by user 17 July 2022 12:21:58 | Reason: Not specified

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westv
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17 July 2022 12:21:01

#859

By unofficial, I will assume that you mean stations whose WMO numbers begin with 99 instead of 03 such as the botanic gardens in Edinburgh and the downside here is that you can only get data for those stations for the last week, although even that is more than you would get elsewhere.

Although the botanic gardens in Edinburgh is still classed as a Met Office station, it seems to have lost that status by quite a lot as such over recent years and fallen more into the shadow of nearby Edinburgh Gogarbank which is an official station with a WMO number that starts with 03..

In fact, the botanic gardens in Edinburgh's own website used to be really good at publicly supplying summaries of all of its past data from 2009 onwards. However, they stopped providing access to that data at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic back in 2020 and since then, they have also removed all of the links to that past data.

Luckily, I was able to grab that data at an earlier time when I was able to do so and thus, use that for my various reports on this forum. Because of that, I still have that data on my own systems.

Had I not done that back then and had I now been looking for that data, there is no currently no way which I know of, of being able to get that data and I think that it is so sad that this has now become the case.

Originally Posted by: johncs2016

It does seem exceedingly mean to hide/remove the data.

At least it will be mild!

Retron
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17 July 2022 12:21:35

#860

I haven't seen a single bird in my garden all morning (although there was a red kite soaring over earlier). Despite it being the only place for water round here (apart from neighbour's paddling pools)

Thankfully, the sparrows all fledged a week or so ago. I guess they have fled to somewhere cooler! I wonder if they somehow know what's coming?

Originally Posted by: Essan

I've just been watching a sparrow on my patio. Not interested in the water I've left out, instead it was fiddling around with various stalks of grass which had gone to seed. Preparing for another nest, maybe?

There are other birds around (I can hear them chirping), but they're staying in the trees. They're not daft!

Leysdown, north Kent

Caz
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17 July 2022 12:23:03

#861

I haven't seen a single bird in my garden all morning (although there was a red kite soaring over earlier). Despite it being the only place for water round here (apart from neighbour's paddling pools)

Thankfully, the sparrows all fledged a week or so ago. I guess they have fled to somewhere cooler! I wonder if they somehow know what's coming?

Originally Posted by: Essan

We’ve had a few sparrows on the garden this morning eating the ants! I’ve seen a few flying ants and wondered if the next day or so will see a flying ant day, just to add to the heat problem.

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Essan
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17 July 2022 12:25:52

#862

We’ve had a few sparrows on the garden this morning eating the ants! I’ve seen a few flying ants and wondered if the next day or so will see a flying ant day, just to add to the heat problem.

Originally Posted by: Caz

I've had flying ants the past couple of days - but even they (and their ground based compatriots) are hiding away today!

However, I can now hear some bird song - so something is still around

(perhaps they read my post and came out to reassure me?

)

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Col
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17 July 2022 12:26:40

#863

Exactly historic, unprecedented extraordinary- there aren't really the superlatives to describe this it feels.

The temperatures likely tomorrow and Tuesday (particularly if we get really high e.g. 42/43c) are unlikely to have been reached in the UK for thousands of years, perhaps all the way back to the last interglacial period 115,000 years ago.

We can't know for certain of course but it's a fascinating if scary thought.

Originally Posted by: scillydave

But wasn't the Medieval warm period and certainly Roman times significantly warmer than today? No doubt 40C was reached then. However I think it's likely that if 40C is breached on Monday/Tuesday it could well be the hottest day for many hundreds (not thousands) of years.

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Rob K
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17 July 2022 12:26:42

#864

Looks like there is nothing higher than 38C on the Met Office forecast map for Tuesday now. 37C the highest tomorrow. The auto output still has some higher readings eg 38 and 42 for Leconfield.

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Ally Pally Snowman
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17 July 2022 12:27:04

#865

30C breached already today, 30.1C at Santon Downham at 1pm. I think the 31-32 forecasts may be underdone.

Edit: also 30.1C at Chivenor right on the coast in Devon.

Originally Posted by: Rob K

Charlwood 29.9c also

Seems like 33c is on

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.

Ally Pally Snowman
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17 July 2022 12:28:23

#866

Looks like there is nothing higher than 38C on the Met Office forecast map for Tuesday now. 37C the highest tomorrow.

Originally Posted by: Rob K

Obviously using some sort of mean for their site. Which is a bit rubbish at such short notice.

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.

Rob K
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17 July 2022 12:28:47

#867

Charlwood 29.9c also

Seems like 33c is on

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman

Perhaps but we now have full cloud cover here which might peg temps back a bit in the south.

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johncs2016
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17 July 2022 12:29:07

#868

It does seem exceedingly mean to hide/remove the data.

Originally Posted by: westv

I'm sure that they would probably still give you that data if you asked for it by using a FOI (Freedom of Information) request but with all of the technology which we have at our disposal in this day and age, I don't think that anyone should have to go to those lengths in order to get the data which they are looking for.

The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

westv
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17 July 2022 12:32:01

#869

I'm sure that they would probably still give you that data if you asked for it by using a FOI (Freedom of Information) request but with all of the technology which we have at our disposal in this day and age, I don't think that anyone should have to go to those lengths in order to get the data which they are looking for.

Originally Posted by: johncs2016

I agree. Not the first time that easily accesible data has been removed from the public domain. I expect they'd probably quote "simplicity" or some such nonsense as the reason.

At least it will be mild!