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Rob K
19 July 2022 08:01:23


Already up to 32.2C at the vineyard. Never seen anything like it. Before 9am, and it's a hotter temperature than the station had ever recorded (admittedly it's only been up a year) before yesterday.


Same time yesterday it was 27C.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Also 32.2C at Heathrow at 9am. That's 90F on the dot at 9am. 


For comparison, in 2019 Heathrow was 28.8C at 9am. So 3.4C higher at the moment.

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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james
19 July 2022 08:03:04

I was trying to find out what the Cambridge Botanic Garden reading was yesterday and.... no readings since Saturday! Why would they stop recording in the previous record holding location just when a new record was looking likely? Utter madness!

https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/observations/details/?site_id=27484233

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


They tweeted about taking a reading on Sunday so I'm sure they haven't stopped. Must be a problem in updating that page.

Brian Gaze
19 July 2022 08:04:04


 


Also 32.2C at Heathrow at 9am. That's 90F on the dot at 9am. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


29.3C here. It's very unusual to see Heathrow so far ahead given that my VP2 over reports.

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Rob K
19 July 2022 08:06:22


 


 


They tweeted about taking a reading on Sunday so I'm sure they haven't stopped. Must be a problem in updating that page.


Originally Posted by: james 


On further reading (see above) it is a manual process so presumably takes a few days to update. But in principle they won't take the reading for yesterday for another hour, so there is still an outside chance of a record.


 


PS lightning map looking very lively out west

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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xioni2
19 July 2022 08:07:07


 29.3C here. It's very unusual to see Heathrow so far ahead given that my VP2 over reports.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


It's the katabatic effect from the mighty Downs.


 

Brian Gaze
19 July 2022 08:07:10


So, looking at this article: https://www.botanic.cam.ac.uk/how-the-weather-is-recorded-at-cubg/


The daily max is actually recorded at 9am (10am BST) each day and then forwarded to the Met Office. So if a new record was set, it wouldn't be officially known until after 10am today. Although you would think someone would have gone and had a little look yesterday 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I think there is a good argument to be made for more funding in the UK. Quite frankly there are too many gaps in the reporting network and it would be helpful if reporting processes were standardised.    

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NDunwell
19 July 2022 08:08:06
Think there are going to be some quick rises and high temps by lunchtime today but still have a feeling that 40C is not going to be reached today.
Unfortunately there is then going to be a whole load of twaddle about how everyone has overeacted and the twitterati will be in meltdown.
Nick
Ruislip (2 miles from the Northolt recording station)
The Beast from the East
19 July 2022 08:08:59


 


It's the katabatic effect from the mighty Downs.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


What is this? like foehn effect?


 

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Heavy Weather 2013
19 July 2022 08:10:38


 


I think there is a good argument to be made for more funding in the UK. Quite frankly there are too many gaps in the reporting network and it would be helpful if reporting processes were standardised.    


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I quite agree. Leicester for example doesnt even have a reporting station. So many gaps.

Mark
Beckton, E London
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redmoons
19 July 2022 08:13:08
30.1c at 9am here in Watford
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Rob K
19 July 2022 08:13:18


 


I quite agree. Leicester for example doesnt even have a reporting station. So many gaps.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


You'd think that at a minimum every city in the UK should have a weather station, and every town above a certain size (perhaps with a proviso that it's not needed if there is another station within X miles).


However if they started adding lots of urban weather stations, the records would be massively skewed by UHI effects, and you'd never hear the end of it.


 


(And talking of UHI, Kew Gardens has just updated with a 32.4 at 9am!)

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Jiries
19 July 2022 08:13:22


 


I remember in my childhood being told that Tonbridge held the record for the highest temperature recorded in England, but (IIRC) since then this record has been discounted as invalid because it was taken at an amateur weather station in a garden in the north part of the town, with a non-standard local situation which most likely caused the temperature to read too high.  I don't know when this decision was taken, or what record at which location was deemed to be the official maximum instead.


Originally Posted by: AJ* 


Always the garden is higher because is sheltered but really should be counted because some areas of UK had reached 40C before for sure but Met prefer stations in conservative temperate areas.  Lot of new stations opening in Cyprus from their gardens and how showing very interesting temperatures and not always Nicosia the hottest but outskirt of Nicosia get hotter than the town itself. They are not fussy and is for fun and interests.


Yesterday drive from Nuneaton to Birmingham NEC Resort world to pick up my wife had reached 38C in the car to 36C so that show some areas are hotter and some cooler, 38C outside Nuneaton, 36C in Meriden and then 37C when arrived at NEC.


30C here as the tree shadow now 1\3 in my garden by so 10am it will be fun then the rise will go very fast like yesterday from 10am to 2pm before clouds came.

The Beast from the East
19 July 2022 08:14:02


We decided to sleep in the garden 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Were you disturbed by doggers?


 

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warrenb
19 July 2022 08:14:08


 


I remember in my childhood being told that Tonbridge held the record for the highest temperature recorded in England, but (IIRC) since then this record has been discounted as invalid because it was taken at an amateur weather station in a garden in the north part of the town, with a non-standard local situation which most likely caused the temperature to read too high.  I don't know when this decision was taken, or what record at which location was deemed to be the official maximum instead.


Originally Posted by: AJ* 


Bob Ogley Weather book of Kent


22nd July 1868


Dr George Hunsley in Mill Lane Tonbridge measured a temperature of 38.1c (100.5f).


Was later discount as read in a stand with a open front.

Tonbridge 45m 
Tom Rance
19 July 2022 08:15:06

32.5c @ 0914. 


Never seen anything like this in the UK.


Feels very much like southern/central France when its really hot there.

Tom
Cambridgeshire, Ouse Valley, 40ft AMSL.
Snow Hoper
19 July 2022 08:15:45
30.2C here in my garden.
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Andy J
19 July 2022 08:17:00
27C at just after 9am here. 23C the lowest overnight.
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Rob K
19 July 2022 08:17:03
Blackbushe airport just ticked over to 30.0C at 9.15am. About 2 hours earlier than yesterday.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Heavy Weather 2013
19 July 2022 08:17:24


 


You'd think that at a minimum every city in the UK should have a weather station, and every town above a certain size (perhaps with a proviso that it's not needed if there is another station within X miles).


However if they started adding lots of urban weather stations, the records would be massively skewed by UHI effects, and you'd never hear the end of it.


 


(And talking of UHI, Kew Gardens has just updated with a 32.4 at 9am!)


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Yes, a sensible approach that, I mean in London we have two reporting stations in the whole of east London. I’m shocked that the MetOffice don’t have a longer term plan to improve the network.

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
TimS
  • TimS
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19 July 2022 08:17:39


 


What is this? like foehn effect?


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Kind of dry equivalent of foehn. With foehn you have saturated air upslope, rain/condensation, then dry adiabatic warming downslope. With the downs on days like this it's more that the dry higher air gets mixed down to ground level, warming up at DALR as it descends. (Xioni please correct me if I got the description wrong).

Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Rob K
19 July 2022 08:22:24
9am (0800Z) update. I think you'll be waiting a long time for a set of 9am readings like this.

KEW GARDENS 32.4
TEDDINGTON BUSHY PAR 32.3
HEATHROW 32.2
WOBURN AUTOMATIC WEA 31.7
PORTHMADOG AUTOMATIC 31.2
BATTERSEA HELIPORT 31.1
London City 31
Southend-on-sea 31
Staverton 31
GOGERDDAN AUTOMATIC 31.0
Cambridge 31
Cranfield 31
Manchester 31
VALLEY AUTOMATIC WEA 31.0
PERSHORE COLLEGE AUT 31.0
WRITTLE AUTOMATIC WE 30.9
Lakenheath Raf 30.8
MONKS WOOD AUTOMATIC 30.7
BROOMS BARN AUTOMATI 30.6
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Hungry Tiger
19 July 2022 08:23:22

9am (0800Z) update. I think you'll be waiting a long time for a set of 9am readings like this.

KEW GARDENS 32.4
TEDDINGTON BUSHY PAR 32.3
HEATHROW 32.2
WOBURN AUTOMATIC WEA 31.7
PORTHMADOG AUTOMATIC 31.2
BATTERSEA HELIPORT 31.1
London City 31
Southend-on-sea 31
Staverton 31
GOGERDDAN AUTOMATIC 31.0
Cambridge 31
Cranfield 31
Manchester 31
VALLEY AUTOMATIC WEA 31.0
PERSHORE COLLEGE AUT 31.0
WRITTLE AUTOMATIC WE 30.9
Lakenheath Raf 30.8
MONKS WOOD AUTOMATIC 30.7
BROOMS BARN AUTOMATI 30.6


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Amazing to get 32C by 9.00am.


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TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
19 July 2022 08:27:26


 


Amazing to get 32C by 9.00am.



Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Also incredibly widespread heat. Southend, Porthmadog, Pershore, Manchester... Will be a warm CET today - presumably smashing the all time CET record.

Brockley, South East London 30m asl
fairweather
19 July 2022 08:27:41


 


You won't have heard from me as I was sound asleep in my bedroom, with the portable a/c on - it was complaining loudly, but managed to hold on.


Tonight's when I'm going to the Holiday Inn, but it's in Sittingbourne, not Leysdown! (There are no chain hotels on Sheppey, oddly.)


17.8C here now.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Let's try not to gloat. But after a quick 30 min blast to get temperature down from 38C to 21C just left to tick along at about 350W quiet mode to keep there through the night.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
briggsy6
19 July 2022 08:28:47

Surprised Talking Pictures didn't screen the movie Night of the Big Heat last night. It couldn't have been more aptly timed.

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