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AJ*
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27 October 2022 09:42:04


 


Is this the earliest ever "Winter is Over" post?


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gefs.aspx?modelrun=na&lg=850&lglocation=london


In the meantime, the ensembles seem to be more or less in agreement on average conditions to for the start of November at least.


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


It seems more like a 'Winter is never even going to start' post.


The unsettled weather looks like continuing, and mostly mild - so the weeds in my garden will carry on growing and going to seed but I won't be able to do anything about it. Doh!


Angus; one of the Kent crew on TWO.
Tonbridge, 40m (131ft) asl
picturesareme
27 October 2022 11:57:15

I'm writing off the entirety of Winter already. Looks like endless mild South Westerlies to me.

Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 


You really should get yourself a new crystal ball. It told you it would be a washout summer and we all know how wrong you (&gloomin) were about that.

Taylor1740
27 October 2022 15:25:56


 


You really should get yourself a new crystal ball. It told you it would be a washout summer and we all know how wrong you (&gloomin) were about that.


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


I'm pretty confident my crystal ball is correct when it comes to the Winter though.


NW Leeds - 150m amsl
ballamar
27 October 2022 18:54:41

I'm writing off the entirety of Winter already. Looks like endless mild South Westerlies to me.

Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 


I will call you wrong now.

Ulric
27 October 2022 20:46:03


 


Haven't put the heating on once yet long may it continue. 


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


We haven't had ours on yet either.


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Gandalf The White
27 October 2022 21:05:57


 


We haven't had ours on yet either.


Originally Posted by: Ulric 


We’ve had ours on briefly in the evening but it mostly switches off within 30 minutes to an hour.  We have had a handful of log fires, but again only from mid-evening.


 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Brian Gaze
27 October 2022 21:12:27

Stay on topic please.  We've go the UIA for other discussions and political commentary.


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John S2
27 October 2022 22:32:30

I'm writing off the entirety of Winter already. Looks like endless mild South Westerlies to me.

Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 


Why? Current ECM output quite similar to the same time of year in 1978. I would put money on winter 2022/23 not being endless South Westerlies. [Hope this is not too off-topic]

Brian Gaze
28 October 2022 06:51:52

GEFS35 continues to rail against the classic La Nina signal. Interesting to see how it develops.


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoforecasts/gefs-35-day.aspx



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DEW
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28 October 2022 07:07:04

Some shift in Wx temp patterns this morning. Although all of Europe is forecast above or mostly well above seasonal norm, the extreme mildness has retreated to the French coast esp the SW. The freezing area over W Russia and N Finland expands somewhat into week 2 but no more than expected for the time of year and the 20C day-night isotherm neatly picks out the Med coasts. A lot of rain on the Atlantic, fringing Britain in week 1 but expanding further E in week 2 to affect all Atlantic coastal countries as well as the Baltic (yesterday's suggestion that the Alps would be included has gone).


GFS Op. LP currently W of Britain moving N to merge with Atlantic circulation but staying offshore until Wed 2nd with SW-lies for all. The LPs following are then positioned  with the main centres in the N Atlantic; a more W-ly flow with troughs projected across Britain from time to time (notably deep LPs 955mb S of Iceland Sat 5th, 965 mb W of Ireland Thu 10th, in each case a blast from the S before backing W-ly again)


GEFS. current mildness (at least for the SE) dropping back to seasonal norm from Mon 31st, indeed mean temp a little below norm for a week with a possible uptick after Thu 10th, op & control being bullish though majority of ens members cooler. Rain already in W becomes more general from from Tue 1st for a week then drier in E in most ens members with occasional big totals in a few runs, but for W, soggy throughout.


ECM. After the merger of LP centres on Wed 2nd as per GFS, ECM keeps the resulting LP close to Scotland for a couple of days, not deep but enough to generate strong S-lies for a couple of days. Then this model keeps the LPs further NW, between Iceland and Greenland, with a prolonged period of steady W-lies from Sun 6th


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Chichester 12m asl
moomin75
28 October 2022 10:33:17


 


You really should get yourself a new crystal ball. It told you it would be a washout summer and we all know how wrong you (&gloomin) were about that.


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

You won't be seeing me writing off any season, ever again, especially after I wrote off the summer and couldn't have been more wrong if I tried.


Nothing in the current pattern will give us any clue as to the winter, so my forecast will be a little bit of everything.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
fairweather
28 October 2022 10:36:35


 


I'm pretty confident my crystal ball is correct when it comes to the Winter though.


Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 


Please could you ask it what next Wednesday will be like - I am planning to play golf. 


S.Essex, 42m ASL
GezM
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28 October 2022 10:56:00

I know that the GFS Oz Op run is on the warm side of the average but the Wx maps for this morning are fascinating in that the 0-8 day and 9-16 day temperature maps are almost identical. Very unusual for this time of year when temperatures should be declining quite rapidly and especially given how mild it is right now. If they displayed a 9-16 days anomaly chart it would be even more red than the 0-8 day one!


http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4


 


 


Living in St Albans, Herts (116m asl)
Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)
Ally Pally Snowman
28 October 2022 11:06:46


I know that the GFS Oz Op run is on the warm side of the average but the Wx maps for this morning are fascinating in that the 0-8 day and 9-16 day temperature maps are almost identical. Very unusual for this time of year when temperatures should be declining quite rapidly and especially given how mild it is right now. If they displayed a 9-16 days anomaly chart it would be even more red than the 0-8 day one!


http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4


 


 


Originally Posted by: GezM 


That anomaly chart is insane. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
ozone_aurora
28 October 2022 14:35:17

Sorry for another off topic post.


Does anyone know a good site for UK and Europe satellite and rainfall radar images, please (not using Met Office satellite radar at the moment).


Thanks.

Chunky Pea
28 October 2022 14:54:47

That excessively warm air over central Europe just refuses to budge and is being constantly fed from the south:



Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
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Chunky Pea
28 October 2022 14:56:04


Sorry for another off topic post.


Does anyone know a good site for UK and Europe satellite and rainfall radar images, please (not using Met Office satellite radar at the moment).


Thanks.


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


Not sure about rainfall images but this is a pretty good site for satellite images. You can zoom in really near as well:


Satellite Europe - cloud radar | Weerplaza.nl


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
Lionel Hutz
28 October 2022 15:07:53


 


That anomaly chart is insane. 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


What's really insane is that it's been like that for weeks.


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Taylor1740
28 October 2022 16:40:16


 


Please could you ask it what next Wednesday will be like - I am planning to play golf. 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Bring a brolly and be prepared for some gusty wind, could be some sunny spells in between though.


NW Leeds - 150m amsl
Nick Gilly
28 October 2022 17:54:25


 


Why? Current ECM output quite similar to the same time of year in 1978. I would put money on winter 2022/23 not being endless South Westerlies. [Hope this is not too off-topic]


Originally Posted by: John S2 


 


I have no idea what winter 2022-23 is going to be like, but a lot has changed climate-wise since 1978.

ozone_aurora
28 October 2022 18:17:38


 


Not sure about rainfall images but this is a pretty good site for satellite images. You can zoom in really near as well:


Satellite Europe - cloud radar | Weerplaza.nl


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


Cheers! 

Zubzero
28 October 2022 20:43:06


Sorry for another off topic post.


Does anyone know a good site for UK and Europe satellite and rainfall radar images, please (not using Met Office satellite radar at the moment).


Thanks.


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


For radar try 


https://www.rainradar.net/


Not sure off any radar sites that show all of the World? 


If you use the My Lightning Tracker app on the radar option, It shows the radar coverage 


https://www.jrustonapps.com/apps/my-lightning-tracker


 


EDIT:


Sorry its the Rain Alarm app that shows radar coverage 


https://app.rain-alarm.com/


 


 

White Meadows
29 October 2022 04:44:52


Sorry for another off topic post.


Does anyone know a good site for UK and Europe satellite and rainfall radar images, please (not using Met Office satellite radar at the moment).


Thanks.


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 

This one is pretty good, albeit without animation sequences… just toggle to satellite:


https://www.ventusky.com/?p=51.2;-0.7;4&l=satellite

White Meadows
29 October 2022 04:48:11


You won't be seeing me writing off any season, ever again, especially after I wrote off the summer and couldn't have been more wrong if I tried.


Nothing in the current pattern will give us any clue as to the winter, so my forecast will be a little bit of everything.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 

What’s the point in making a forecast based on a theory of ‘nothing will give us a clue’? In other words, you’ll be making another complete guess? 

Retron
29 October 2022 04:56:27


Sorry for another off topic post.


Does anyone know a good site for UK and Europe satellite and rainfall radar images, please (not using Met Office satellite radar at the moment).


Thanks.


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


I'd recommend the NetWeather free radar:


https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar


and I use SAT24 for satellite (it has a UK zoom, choices between IR and visible etc).


https://en.sat24.com/en/gb


 


Leysdown, north Kent

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