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DEW
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06 November 2022 10:51:14

Does anyone know where the Met Office now post their regional extreme observations for their last 24 hours, if indeed they do?


These used to come up with the Observation map, but now they have got the new whizzy version of the map this is no longer the case. I can find their national extremes, which is all very well, but I'd find it more relevant, say, to know whether SE England had a frost anywhere last night rather than that Aboyne, 450 miles north of here, recorded -4C. (https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation )


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Osprey
06 November 2022 12:16:11


Does anyone know where the Met Office now post their regional extreme observations for their last 24 hours, if indeed they do?


These used to come up with the Observation map, but now they have got the new whizzy version of the map this is no longer the case. I can find their national extremes, which is all very well, but I'd find it more relevant, say, to know whether SE England had a frost anywhere last night rather than that Aboyne, 450 miles north of here, recorded -4C. (https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation )


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Any good? https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/


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Saint Snow
06 November 2022 13:19:40

Do you think ofgem and the weather are working together or perhaps putin is working for the weather too? 😂

Originally Posted by: MBrothers 


 


Wouldn't be the first time the Russians have messed about with the weather 




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06 November 2022 13:58:28


 


Any good? https://wow.metoffice.gov.uk/


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


Thanks - I'd not seen this before and it's very useful for point observations.


But ...


I was looking for something in the format shown in https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation  so that I could see at a glance max/min for temp, rain etc for the whole region (in my case the South, which covers Kent to Hampshire and north to Oxford)


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ballamar
06 November 2022 14:17:20
Wondering if we could see a touch of warming in the Strat soon to aid some blocking. Keeping an eye open
Chunky Pea
06 November 2022 14:27:30

EC day ten temp anomaly has the look of winter 2013/2014 about it with huge banks of cold air spilling off the N. American continent and into a very warm N. Atlantic. 



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David M Porter
06 November 2022 16:19:12

Wondering if we could see a touch of warming in the Strat soon to aid some blocking. Keeping an eye open

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


Fingers crossed.


I think many areas would be glad of a period of more settled weather sometime soon, be it mild or cold.


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06 November 2022 17:02:26


EC day ten temp anomaly has the look of winter 2013/2014 about it with huge banks of cold air spilling off the N. American continent and into a very warm N. Atlantic. 


 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


Not sure what I remember of 2013-14 but the mix of cold air and warm ocean sounds like a recipe for intense cyclogenesis. Was it like that?


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Chunky Pea
06 November 2022 17:15:03


 


Not sure what I remember of 2013-14 but the mix of cold air and warm ocean sounds like a recipe for intense cyclogenesis. Was it like that?


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Pretty much! The storms started in the 3rd week of December of 2013 (after a prolonged anticyclonic spell) and didn't really relent until March. 


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https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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roadrunnerajn
06 November 2022 17:16:55


 


Not sure what I remember of 2013-14 but the mix of cold air and warm ocean sounds like a recipe for intense cyclogenesis. Was it like that?


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Yes… that was the winter that Red Bull held their massive surf kite surfing competition at Gwithian in Cornwall. It was also the winter that changed the coastline and France stole our sandy beaches..according to one newspaper.


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squish
06 November 2022 19:07:39
https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/jma/runs/2022110612/JN240-7.GIF 

I usually like to start my winter postings with an unfeasibly optimistic chart!

So here is tonights 12z JMA +240

Good to be back 😉
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06 November 2022 19:13:40

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/jma/runs/2022110612/JN240-7.GIF

I usually like to start my winter postings with an unfeasibly optimistic chart!

So here is tonights 12z JMA +240

Good to be back ;)

Originally Posted by: squish 


At least that agrees with this mornings WX chart, even if none of the other outputs did!


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DEW
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06 November 2022 19:47:44


Does anyone know where the Met Office now post their regional extreme observations for their last 24 hours, if indeed they do?


These used to come up with the Observation map, but now they have got the new whizzy version of the map this is no longer the case. I can find their national extremes, which is all very well, but I'd find it more relevant, say, to know whether SE England had a frost anywhere last night rather than that Aboyne, 450 miles north of here, recorded -4C. (https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation )


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Official reply from the MetO - no, the regional extremes aren't being provided any more.


Thank you for your email. As stated, you can continue to find UK extremes data ...The regional daily extremes data has been retired as part of the launch of our new maps pages. However, we are planning to reinstate this information in the future if it continues to be a requirement for people, and we have noted your feedback regarding this. Apologies for any inconvenience in the meantime, and again thank you for taking the time to get in touch.


If it's important to you as well, add your feedback at https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/contact 


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07 November 2022 08:07:40

WX temps like yesterday - Europe still well above norm throughout in week 1 but a big movement of colder Siberian air SW-wards in week 2, reaching the borders of Poland and also affecting Turkey. Residual warmth on Atlantic coasts retreating S-ward to Spain (and the much-vaunted warm spell this coming weekend doesn't show up on these charts, and it is also much reduced on the day-to-day MetO forecasts at least for the south of England). Rain on the Atlantic week 1, fringing NW Britain; new development and much more extensive in week 2, a broad and heavy band Iceland - Britain - France - Adriatic.


GFS Op - LPs passing NW Scotland to Thu 10th; then HP (as forecast) arises from the S but is centred further E (1035mb Czechia Sun 13th) so Britain has SW-lies rather than direct S-lies so mild but not as extreme as previously forecast. LP on Atlantic gradually gathers strength and settles 960mb Rockall Fri 18th, dominating Britain's weather; and a re-load 955mb Tue 22nd entraining colder air this time. The HP from Czechia gradually drifts SE-wards, by Wed 23rd 1040mb near the Caspian and exerting less and less influence on Britain.


ECM - after the passing LPs at first, as for Gfs, then keeps to the earlier forecast of HP closer at the weekend (1035mb Germany Sat 12th) with warmer source of air than GFS before an abrupt breakdown, LP 975mb N England Wed 16th and general LP over Atlantic persisting and affecting Britain after that


GEFS - keeps the very mild and dry spell for the S Thu 10th - Mon 14th but a quicker decline to norm with frequent rain for the rest of the forecast period. Similar temp profiles elsewhere, but in the N & W not so much dry as damp, and then heavier rain returning.


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AJ*
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07 November 2022 08:27:59


 


Official reply from the MetO - no, the regional extremes aren't being provided any more.


Thank you for your email. As stated, you can continue to find UK extremes data ...The regional daily extremes data has been retired as part of the launch of our new maps pages. However, we are planning to reinstate this information in the future if it continues to be a requirement for people, and we have noted your feedback regarding this. Apologies for any inconvenience in the meantime, and again thank you for taking the time to get in touch.


If it's important to you as well, add your feedback at https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/contact 


Originally Posted by: DEW 

[Emphasis added]


Looks like another example of a disimprovement.


I'm pleased to see the MO showing a settled spell (for here) in the medium term.  Parts of the far SE have had double the monthly average for November in the first 7 days.  It never rains but it pours ...


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Rob K
07 November 2022 09:40:51


[Emphasis added]


Looks like another example of a disimprovement.


I'm pleased to see the MO showing a settled spell (for here) in the medium term.  Parts of the far SE have had double the monthly average for November in the first 7 days.  It never rains but it pours ...


Originally Posted by: AJ* 


Yes after the bone dry summer it has certainly been soggy round here. For the first time I can remember the local November 5 bonfire failed to light this year!


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Charmhills
07 November 2022 10:31:41

Stormy/very wet ECM 00z after a very mild dry period has gone through.




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ballamar
07 November 2022 11:24:55
End of GFS not without interest for signs of a bit more of a cool-down and some colder nights
Saint Snow
07 November 2022 12:33:22

I'm just hopefull of a dry spell


It's just been so soggy for weeks.


 



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David M Porter
07 November 2022 16:49:42


I'm just hopefull of a dry spell


It's just been so soggy for weeks.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Sounds as though your area has had the same rubbish weather lately that my neck of the woods has had, Saint.


Like yourself, I would dearly like a dry spell now, and it doesn't necessarily have to be accompanied by cold temperatures.


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Taylor1740
07 November 2022 19:00:49
Next week looking 'slightly' more interesting, however I'm fully expecting the cooler more unsettled charts to be replaced my more extremely mild South Westerlies as we get nearer the time.
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Rob K
07 November 2022 21:04:54
Even the CFS serves up a generally mild picture right out to mid Feb!
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Heavy Weather 2013
08 November 2022 06:27:48
Eye spy and artic high on GFS out in FI
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08 November 2022 08:11:32

WX temp summary keeps the existing pattern of a mild/very mild Europe for week 1, with cold weather hovering in the far NE. In week 2, unlike yesterday, the cold in the NE expands only to a limited extent, only just as far as W Russia, though some ultra-cold does appear in the far N. Elsewhere, some modest cooling across Europe, most visible in the N incl N Scotland. Rain on Atlantic, fringing Britain in week , moving in to cover all of Britain in week 2 as well as much of France and S Scandinavia.


GFS Op; mostly a procession of LP. At first these tend to be to the N (965mb Wed 9th, Rockall; 970mb Iceland Fri 11th) but after HP appears briefly and somewhat distantly for the weekend (1035mb S Germany), the LPs take a more S-ly track (965mb Iceland Wed 16th with secondary over England the next day, 960mb Hebrides Mon 21st, and another approaching in the same latitude 950mb Thu 24th)


ECM; like GFS to the weekend when the HP is more pronounced but then collapses more quickly - LP 960mb NI Tue 15th, separately 970mb N England Thu 17th, while a general area of LP lurks N of Scotland.


GEFS; showers at first, very mild and dry Thu 10th - Mon 14th, then temp down to norm abruptly and lots of rain esp in S. 


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Zubzero
08 November 2022 08:28:58
Later stages of the ECM run very unsettled with a chance of gales. Worth keeping an 👁 on

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=216&mode=1&map=0&type=0&archive=0 

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