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Saint Snow
22 December 2022 21:45:44
They've stolen our winter 😥

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Tim A
23 December 2022 08:22:16
The forecast for Buffalo is the stuff of Xmas dreams with rain turning to heavy snow and feet of the stuff. 
Met office forecast shows the temp change.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/dpxguhhpy#?date=2022-12-25 

Snow lovers will be worried of a break down in a weeks time though. 
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

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DEW
  • DEW
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23 December 2022 08:34:58
The BBC had an interview with a weather presenter from a Chicago radio station this morning, and he was saying that the cold weather there is forecast to disappear as quickly as it came, with temps back to a balmy (for Chicago) 9C by the New Year. But the charts suggest that the cold and especially the snow will hang on longer in New England.

FWIW, I acquired a reputation for forecasting snow in the Kentish village where we lived in the 80s, based on snow arriving three weeks after New York had a big fall. Then in the 90s, that forecast method just stopped working, and I quietly tried to forget about it. There's little sign of it being successful this year either so presumably I struck lucky for those few years.
War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
GezM
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23 December 2022 11:09:29

The BBC had an interview with a weather presenter from a Chicago radio station this morning, and he was saying that the cold weather there is forecast to disappear as quickly as it came, with temps back to a balmy (for Chicago) 9C by the New Year. But the charts suggest that the cold and especially the snow will hang on longer in New England.

FWIW, I acquired a reputation for forecasting snow in the Kentish village where we lived in the 80s, based on snow arriving three weeks after New York had a big fall. Then in the 90s, that forecast method just stopped working, and I quietly tried to forget about it. There's little sign of it being successful this year either so presumably I struck lucky for those few years.

Originally Posted by: DEW 



I do remember as a youngster back in the 70s and 80s this was often stated and it did turn out to be the case on occasions - both hot spells and cold spells. I'm sure weather patterns have changed since then because this very rarely seems to happen any more along with steady west-east moving anticyclones giving 3 fine days followed by a cold front and rain.  
Living in St Albans, Herts (116m asl)
Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)
GezM
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23 December 2022 11:12:12

The forecast for Buffalo is the stuff of Xmas dreams with rain turning to heavy snow and feet of the stuff. 
Met office forecast shows the temp change.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/dpxguhhpy#?date=2022-12-25 

Snow lovers will be worried of a break down in a weeks time though. 

Originally Posted by: Tim A 



And here is the weather warning. I think they might be enjoying a snowy Christmas 😉 ....

Blizzard conditions expected. Total snow accumulations of
2 to 3 feet with locally higher amounts possible. Winds gusting
as high as 65 to 70 mph today and tonight. A rapid switch from
rain to snow with sharply falling temperatures into the teens
and single digits will result in a flash freeze today. Blizzard
conditions will develop this afternoon lasting into Saturday
night. Wind chills as cold as 10 to 20 below zero.
 
Living in St Albans, Herts (116m asl)
Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)
doctormog
23 December 2022 11:14:45

And here is the weather warning. I think they might be enjoying a snowy Christmas 😉 ....

Blizzard conditions expected. Total snow accumulations of
2 to 3 feet with locally higher amounts possible. Winds gusting
as high as 65 to 70 mph today and tonight. A rapid switch from
rain to snow with sharply falling temperatures into the teens
and single digits will result in a flash freeze today. Blizzard
conditions will develop this afternoon lasting into Saturday
night. Wind chills as cold as 10 to 20 below zero.
 

Originally Posted by: GezM 



Could be interesting to watch: https://buffalowebcam.com 
Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
Tim A
23 December 2022 12:56:48
Thinking of putting that webcam link on my TV, then can pretend I am looking out of the window at it. 
Dropped to 1c now there so rain turning to snow. 
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
speckledjim
23 December 2022 13:07:56
https://buffalowebcam.com/live-webcams/buffalo-ny-elmwood-ave-north-from-mr-pizza 

i'm watching this one, snow falling but not settling (yet)
Thorner, West Yorkshire


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wingman
23 December 2022 13:37:17

Could be interesting to watch: https://buffalowebcam.com 

Originally Posted by: doctormog 



Absolutely fascinating seeing how quickly the scenes there are turning white. Proper blizzard conditions now.

Thanks for the link!
Tim A
23 December 2022 13:43:18
Yep, looks fantastic there now. Down to -2c. 
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

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Saint Snow
23 December 2022 16:09:44

Absolutely fascinating seeing how quickly the scenes there are turning white. Proper blizzard conditions now.

Thanks for the link!

Originally Posted by: wingman 



Check it out now. 

I've kept it open in a tab, popping in every so often yo make my heart break a little bit more 😢

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Chunky Pea
23 December 2022 16:40:28
Snowing, though nothing too heavy yet, in Fairport, upstate NY with the temp there currently on -5 2c, a drop of 3 c in two hoursLive rail cam.
https://youtu.be/eVwn3bbSXBw  
edit. Winds currently gusting up to  around 40 knots there now, so no doubt serious wind chills are being felt all around 
Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 

"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
doctormog
23 December 2022 17:33:31

Check it out now. 

I've kept it open in a tab, popping in every so often yo make my heart break a little bit more 😢

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



It looks amazing just now with heavy snow.
Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
wingman
23 December 2022 17:46:56
Practically whiteout conditions and yet folks still driving around in it.
Tim A
23 December 2022 17:57:15
Wow yes that is a proper blizzard.
Temps  -9c in Town or  -12c away from the lake so must feel so so bitter. 
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
Jiries
23 December 2022 20:14:25

Wow yes that is a proper blizzard.
Temps  -9c in Town or  -12c away from the lake so must feel so so bitter. 

Originally Posted by: Tim A 



That what I like to see those subzero temps here and blizzards conditions from the east or north.  Since my memory of very few snow events here after 1991 really miss out most of my life time as my memories alwasy fresh from the 1980;s to 1991, then Feb 2009 that all, rest was poor and little snow around and less cold temps.  I and my wife plan to go abroad up to 1 week per winter to see the snow, we going to try Lapland and rent a holiday apartment for a week which cost £61 per night than hotels which charging a lot more.  At least to see the snow and fill up my memory of snow yearly.  Americans, Canadian and Europeans have more snow memories from seeing snow every year.
tallyho_83
23 December 2022 20:47:52
Currently -2c in New Orleans - Louisiana and set to fall to -5c tonight:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/4335045 

New Orleans is below sea level on the Gulf Coast at 29.9511° N, 90.0715° W
😲
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DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
23 December 2022 20:54:11

Currently -2c in New Orleans - Louisiana and set to fall to -5c tonight:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/4335045 

New Orleans is below sea level on the Gulf Coast at 29.9511° N, 90.0715° W
😲

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 



Sea ice in the Gulf of Mexico would be something to see! Perhaps we'll see icebergs floating our way in the Gulf Stream🤣

But more seriously, a weather expert on BBC pm was saying that the cold air layer was rather shallow. The interview rather broke down because the BBC interviewer turned out to be trying to find out whether it would be too cold for planes to fly at 30,000 feet and the interviewee was talking about something much shallower, 5,000 feet if I heard it right. Did I? Does anyone have a source for temperature profiles with altitiude?
War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Saint Snow
23 December 2022 21:07:54
Looks horrendous on that webcam now... and I'm green with envy.

Would so love that in the UK

Hilarious chaos. 

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Tim A
23 December 2022 21:27:39

Looks horrendous on that webcam now... and I'm green with envy.

Would so love that in the UK

Hilarious chaos. 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



#Buffalo on Twitter and you will see this is a unusual event even for there, crazy scenes. 
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
tallyho_83
23 December 2022 22:50:51

Sea ice in the Gulf of Mexico would be something to see! Perhaps we'll see icebergs floating our way in the Gulf Stream🤣

But more seriously, a weather expert on BBC pm was saying that the cold air layer was rather shallow. The interview rather broke down because the BBC interviewer turned out to be trying to find out whether it would be too cold for planes to fly at 30,000 feet and the interviewee was talking about something much shallower, 5,000 feet if I heard it right. Did I? Does anyone have a source for temperature profiles with altitiude?

Originally Posted by: DEW 



Incredible weather! Last week and week before was our fun time and this week is USA's fun time!

On the flip side NYC didn't see any snow - apparently started off very wet this morning at +13c with rain and dropped to -5 this evening and a further fall to -13c tonight but the rain stopped just before it got cold enough for snow and from now on it will be bone dry but bitterly cold. NYC has had a temperature drop of almost 20c in what 15 hrs. wow wow wow! 😮
Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


tallyho_83
23 December 2022 22:57:58

Snowing, though nothing too heavy yet, in Fairport, upstate NY with the temp there currently on -5 2c, a drop of 3 c in two hoursLive rail cam.
https://youtu.be/eVwn3bbSXBw  
edit. Winds currently gusting up to  around 40 knots there now, so no doubt serious wind chills are being felt all around 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 



Thanks for sharing - I scrolled back time and went to earlier in the day - amazing eventful day weatherwise there! and this is the sort of weather I miss which i use to experience in Alberta when I lived there 1 year. I love how it started off as rain and then stopped, got brighter and then clouded over with wet snow huge wet flakes and then became more and more powdery as temperatures plummeted below freezing and then drifted leaving a dusting!
Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
24 December 2022 07:29:52
Lots of data, charts and videos here (there are two onward links to check out)
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/topic/eye-on-the-storm/ 
War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Jiries
24 December 2022 09:45:40
That so called winter storm really pointless for snow rampers there as they will enjoy the snowfall now but after few days mild weather will return and wipe them out quickly.  Toronto going to see 9C next week with rain like UK experiencing it now.   
Tim A
24 December 2022 10:30:48

That so called winter storm really pointless for snow rampers there as they will enjoy the snowfall now but after few days mild weather will return and wipe them out quickly.  Toronto going to see 9C next week with rain like UK experiencing it now.   

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


It's still 5 days of  extreme cold weather with severe blizzards over Christmas, I would take that every year without disappointment.  If you want constant snow and cold temps you have to go further North.  Quebec city has a fantastic climate and warm incursions are much more limited with deep snow on the ground all winter.  Go SW to Montreal and it's a bit more dodgy and then Toronto even more so.
Quebec and Newfoundland have the best N America winter weather IMO but I would also take Buffalo and sacrifice some melt for the extreme lake effect snow. 
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 

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