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Jiries
24 December 2022 10:38:39

It's still 5 days of  extreme cold weather with severe blizzards over Christmas, I would take that every year without disappointment.  If you want constant snow and cold temps you have to go further North.  Quebec city has a fantastic climate and warm incursions are much more limited with deep snow on the ground all winter.  Go SW to Montreal and it's a bit more dodgy and then Toronto even more so.
Quebec and Newfoundland have the best N America winter weather IMO but I would also take Buffalo and sacrifice some melt for the extreme lake effect snow. 

Originally Posted by: Tim A 



Yes as Toronto is lot further south and more less snow over London and Windsor.  When I went there before it was crap snow cover but more when we went to Niagara Falls as there some lake effects snow and more deeper.

Toronto also sit by the lake but no effect since the winds always blow from the west over the land. Need SE winds to that but very rare so Buffalo get the most.
LeedsLad123
24 December 2022 11:23:07
As much as I like snow, that Buffalo blizzard is just terrifying. It’s the worst I’ve ever seen outside of Antarctica. I’m more than happy to watch it from a distance. 

My ideal climate would probably be costal New England - warm but not too hot summers, cold but not frigid winters. Occasional snow but not the 80 inch ridiculousness of the Great Lakes. 
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Tim A
25 December 2022 10:35:53

As much as I like snow, that Buffalo blizzard is just terrifying. It’s the worst I’ve ever seen outside of Antarctica. I’m more than happy to watch it from a distance. 

My ideal climate would probably be costal New England - warm but not too hot summers, cold but not frigid winters. Occasional snow but not the 80 inch ridiculousness of the Great Lakes. 

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 



I think I would enjoy it until the power went off, -15c and stuck with no heating or electric for days over Christmas would be pretty miserable. 
Then again if the streamer set up a few miles North or South would also be unhappy, so perhaps there is no pleasing me, snow lovers are a strange breed. 

The warnings are in a different league over there 'Travel will be inpossible'. Like one Buffalo resident said it's ok people saying they are used to it, but you can't really get used to paralysis of everything.
 
Noticed some Estate agents list a benefit of the North of Buffalo as being less prone to extreme snowfalls as the streamers usually effect the south of the city. The reverse has happened with this event. 
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26 December 2022 18:36:33
Update on US conditions
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2022/12/peak-travel-hit-by-peak-weather-pain-as-holidays-arrive/ 
 
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Windy Willow
27 December 2022 07:30:23
This weather system affected many states, all the way down to the south too. My daughter's currenty in Tampa, Florida and they awoke on Saturday morning to a temperature of just 1c, she's used to temperatures like this but her boyfriend and his family are not!
 
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dagspot
27 December 2022 15:07:06
wonder if it was more the rapidity and bad timing but a lot of the images of snowfall in Buffalo doesn't look that bad.  I have a feeling I’ve seen NA / Canada areas having had worse in the past. Perhaps the areas I saw had already cleared some of the snow. 
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bledur
27 December 2022 15:27:34

wonder if it was more the rapidity and bad timing but a lot of the images of snowfall in Buffalo doesn't look that bad.  I have a feeling I’ve seen NA / Canada areas having had worse in the past. Perhaps the areas I saw had already cleared some of the snow. 

Originally Posted by: dagspot 


Looked pretty deep to me and with that "lake effect" it just keeps coming . Also they are far swifter at clearing snow in places like that as it is not unusual and many people have ploughs to fit on their trucks and many have pedestrian snowblowers for clearing their driveways e.t.c.
lanky
27 December 2022 15:40:26

Looked pretty deep to me and with that "lake effect" it just keeps coming . Also they are far swifter at clearing snow in places like that as it is not unusual and many people have ploughs to fit on their trucks and many have pedestrian snowblowers for clearing their driveways e.t.c.

Originally Posted by: bledur 



I don't think it was just the snow depth though.

True that some of the "lake effect" falls may well have been deeper - I was in the USA when they had one in Nov/Dec in 2002 (IIRC) that was over 30 inches but these are usually when the temperature is around 0C (before the lake freezes over)

In this instance the temperature was way below 0C and there was a gusting wind at about 50-60mph to provide a huge wind-chill factor so the risks of freezing to death or suffering heart attack was much higher and that is what has happened

 
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doctormog
27 December 2022 15:48:35
Buffalo received over 49” of snow in three days. Combine that with the wind and cold mentioned above and the reason for the extent of the problems and sadly fatalities becomes clearer.
Jiries
27 December 2022 16:51:35

This weather system affected many states, all the way down to the south too. My daughter's currenty in Tampa, Florida and they awoke on Saturday morning to a temperature of just 1c, she's used to temperatures like this but her boyfriend and his family are not!
 

Originally Posted by: Windy Willow 


Hope they have heaters in their homes?
Windy Willow
27 December 2022 18:25:02

Hope they have heaters in their homes?

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


They do. They think it's cold at 20c lol
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Gavin D
01 January 2023 11:21:40
Wielenbach in the Upper Bavarian district of Weilheim-Schongau hit 20.8c yesterday, smashing the previous New Year's Eve record of 17.0c in 1961
Jiries
01 January 2023 12:07:41
Watching Live from Namibia Desert cam as today 1st day of the year is thunderstorms now.  Wow really nice to hear the real storm sounds from my wife's new speaker and booster bar making me feel that I am under the UK thunerstrom that I used to see in the past.
Gavin D
01 January 2023 12:52:22
Poland had its warmest New Year's Eve on record yesterday with a high of 18.1c in Słubice


Belgium had its warmest December day on record yesterday with a high of 17.5c in Diepenbeek
 
Gavin D
01 January 2023 20:11:18
Poland has smashed its warmest January day on record with 18.9c in Warsaw, beating the old record of 13.8c set in 1993
Gavin D
01 January 2023 20:21:07
Temperature records for January have gone across Europe today as the unprecedented spring like warmth for many continues
  • Liechtenstein 20.0c
  • Czech Republic 19.4c
  • Poland 18.9c
  • Belarus 15.9c
  • Lithuania 14.9c
  • Denmark 12.6c
  • Latvia 11.1c

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02 January 2023 02:29:10

Temperature records for January have gone across Europe today as the unprecedented spring like warmth for many continuesLiechtenstein 20.0cCzech Republic 19.4cPoland 18.9cBelarus 15.9cLithuania 14.9cDenmark 12.6cLatvia 11.1c

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

 ​​​​​​​These are absolutely exceptional temperatures for January 1st. Incredible!   
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Jiries
02 January 2023 06:37:23

These are absolutely exceptional temperatures for January 1st. Incredible!   

Originally Posted by: GezM 


Is Ukraine missed out the warmth? Belarus sit north of that so surely somewhere had reach 20c unless all weather stations closed due to war?  
Got a feeling that they will have a very hot summer.  Seem Europe over taken UK which usually the mildest place in N Hemisphere winter season.
johncs2016
02 January 2023 06:43:44

Is Ukraine missed out the warmth? Belarus sit north of that so surely somewhere had reach 20c unless all weather stations closed due to war?  
Got a feeling that they will have a very hot summer.  Seem Europe over taken UK which usually the mildest place in N Hemisphere winter season.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



Interesting. I would have thought that the Republic of Ireland would have been the mildest place in the Northern Hemisphere winter season rather than the UK as it is a separate country, and since the mild SW's which ruin so many of our winters here in the UK will usually reach the Republic of Ireland before they reach here.
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
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05 January 2023 21:25:51
California, normally considered to have a Mediterranean climate, getting at least two storms which wouldn't be out of place up around Iceland. Not a surprise if you've been keeping an eye on the jet stream which has been consistently strong and well south across the Pacific this year.

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/01/more-wind-rain-flooding-ahead-for-storm-battered-california/ 

At least the storms provide a good snow dump over the Sierras and will solve California's drought problems for the coming year.
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08 January 2023 15:49:31
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/06/weather/california-flooding-powerful-winds-friday/index.html 
California floods including video; San Francisco has had its wettest 10 days since 1871 (i.e. since records began?)
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Tim A
08 January 2023 19:58:26
Mammoth Lakes has had 650cm of snow so far this season already(think annual average is 500cm or so) with massive totals expected in the coming days from the storm moving in shortly.  
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Jiries
08 January 2023 22:11:01

Mammoth Lakes has had 650cm of snow so far this season already(think annual average is 500cm or so) with massive totals expected in the coming days from the storm moving in shortly.  

Originally Posted by: Tim A 



Very good over there while poor Europe suffer with little or not snow.  I went to check St Anton that used to be the highest snow depth for Europe Alps is very shocking mere 20cm?  and just freezing temps.  That place used to reach 500-600cm every winter in the 90's when I view the Snow reports on German TV ARD19 channel via Astra every day.  They put up from 1st November to 31st April then taken down in summer months. 

With lot of rain in the north California is going to move south to give Death Valley a very soaking wet week, not 1 day wonder but whole wet week with some days at 100% rain and snow on the higher parts, they already had 2 rain days this month so likely to be very wet month for their standard but temperatures are on the warm side at 68-70F despite the rain due to winds from the southern side, not northerly.  Might give some relief for Lake Mead and Hoover Dam refilling a bit from lot of rain.
polarwind
09 January 2023 08:29:17


Australian floods ...... 'once in a century'.

see -  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-australia-64206297  
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