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SEMerc
03 October 2011 09:14:03




'Arry persists with a static and old fashioned 4-4-2 (like today) or the slightly more flexible 4-1-4-1. What he needs to do is play Parker and Sandro TOGETHER in a 4-2-3-1.


The pairing of Parker (terrier-like ball winner) and Sandro (classic midfield destroyer) has every chance of becoming one of the best defensive midfield pairings in the EPL.


One thing is for sure, we wouldn't have received the hammerings at the hands of United and Shiteh if either or both of them had been available.


Originally Posted by: Edicius81 


theres no doubt at all things are looking up for the Spurs Ekotto has impressed me alot the last couple of seasons and he gets better each season,the occasional wayward pass but bar that looks a class act,big Brad between the sticks our defence shaping up very nicely ..and if King can play regular Dawson to come back and Gallas,and a  midfield with a combination of silky skills and force and a potent stikeforce its looking like we could be right up there come the end


as for the utd and city games i agree with you regarding Sandro and Parker  aint we come along way since jenas and palacios


Originally Posted by: DTHFCJ 


I don't think they *need* to be used in a 4-2-3-1, but that would certainly be useful away at the big sides. In fairness, I think Harry saw Arsenal as a team with their tail betyween thier legs and wanted to try and exploit that. The fact that they harried and pressured in the middle of the park far better than they have done all season isn't really his fault, plus the change was made when we were under pressure.


As for Daws and Gallas, as much as I think they are both great players I wouldn't shift them in to the team if King and Kaboul stay fit. Kaboul was simply immense yeaterday and fully deserves his place.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


The way both teams set up yesterday Arsenal always had the extra man in the middle of the park allowing a midfield even as awful as their's to play higher up.That wouldn't have happened if Sandro had been employed in there. Yesterday also showed to me that Spurs don't need to play both VDV and Defoe. Drop Defoe out, bring Sandro in.


 


 

SEMerc
04 October 2011 01:06:13
wallaw
04 October 2011 09:52:41

Quinn has resigned as Chairman at Sunderland and is taking some odd position looking at international development. Ellis is wanting more of a 'hands on' role, I think this spells the end for Mr Bruce

Ian


Stockton-on-Tees
SEMerc
04 October 2011 10:07:58

I wouldn't be surprised to see Mr Quinn end up at Shiteh.

Snow Hoper
04 October 2011 11:34:33



What a dreadful decision. All I keep reading is how great Suarez is. He may well be, but he's still a namby pamby cheat like the rest of them


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Awful decision to straight red him, but the follow-through did clean Suarez out (no matter how Ronaldo'esque tendancies a player may have, they can't make their legs fly out from under them like that when in mid-air)


Saying that, if Atkinson hadn't have sent Rodwell off, he may not have bottled a couple of definite straight reds later in the game.


And perhaps if Everton had tried to play football instead of breaky-leggy with their opponents, they may have got something out of the game. I'm critical of how the game has become a pansy-fest, but some of the two-feet-off-the-ground tackles that flew in from the bitters would have had even a 1970's pundit raising an eyebrow.


As for Liverpool's quality, they're still well short of what's needed.


 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Been overturned. as to the second point, having seen the replay again, he Jumped straight up in the air and then crumpled to the floor. Barely any impact on the cheating gimp


 

Going to war over religion is like killing each other to see who has the better imaginary friend.


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wallaw
05 October 2011 07:24:17


I wouldn't be surprised to see Mr Quinn end up at Shiteh.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


You may have a point, is there a vacancy there

Ian


Stockton-on-Tees
Saint Snow
05 October 2011 08:53:26

as to the second point, having seen the replay again, he Jumped straight up in the air and then crumpled to the floor. Barely any impact on the cheating gimp

Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 


Yes, he jumped straight up in the air - a good job he did, really, or the follow-through could have crippled him. But look again at the reply and you'll see that Rodwell does catch him. I don't know how much that hurt (probably not very much), but the contact is enough to take Suarez's legs out to the side.


Like I said in my initial post, it was never a red. But neither was it a dive by Suarez (even if he may have exagerated his pain)


Martin
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A TWO addict since 14/12/01
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Aneurin Bevan
Snow Hoper
05 October 2011 09:09:55


as to the second point, having seen the replay again, he Jumped straight up in the air and then crumpled to the floor. Barely any impact on the cheating gimp

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Yes, he jumped straight up in the air - a good job he did, really, or the follow-through could have crippled him. But look again at the reply and you'll see that Rodwell does catch him. I don't know how much that hurt (probably not very much), but the contact is enough to take Suarez's legs out to the side.


Like I said in my initial post, it was never a red. But neither was it a dive by Suarez (even if he may have exagerated his pain)


Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 


My point was they never went out to the side. They went straight up (when he jumped) and straight down (he landed on one leg before rolling around) He made the most of it (like you said).


I'm agreeing with all of it except that point (after some of the things he's done in his career I have a lot of dislike for the fella)

Going to war over religion is like killing each other to see who has the better imaginary friend.


Home : Thorndon, Suffolk.
Saint Snow
12 October 2011 10:48:59

I see Liverpool are today espousing everything that's wrong with top flight football


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15269831.stm


Arseholes.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Gooner
12 October 2011 19:16:21

First post in here this season


Arsenal will do well to finish in 5th or 6th


IMO


1 Man U


2 Man C


3 Chelsea


4 Tottenham


5 & 6 Arsenal or Liverpool


Wenger is really on thin ice IMO , one theory flying around is that he just cannot handle any big name players which going over his signings has an air of truth about it.


Man U look good .........yet again zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz though will concede goals


Man C??????jury out, will they all fit in together although no doubting the quality they have, especially upfront.


 


 


 


 

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


CAPE-steve
13 October 2011 08:06:52
Nice to see you again Gooner. I pretty much agree with that assessment.
wallaw
13 October 2011 08:18:14

I still see Chelsea nicking second this year, I really don't rate Mancini that highly and whilst the team (and squad) on paper is probably not as strong as City's, the Chelsea team have more durability and will grind out more wins through the winter months.


Man U


Chelsea


City


Spurs


 

Ian


Stockton-on-Tees
CAPE-steve
13 October 2011 12:20:38


I see Liverpool are today espousing everything that's wrong with top flight football


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15269831.stm


Arseholes.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Thankfully it seems they are on their own


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15286887.stm


David M Porter
13 October 2011 15:54:03



I see Liverpool are today espousing everything that's wrong with top flight football


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15269831.stm


Arseholes.


Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


Thankfully it seems they are on their own


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15286887.stm



Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


It all comes down to one thing- GREED. As Saint has said, this sums up everything that is wrong with modern top class football. If football doesn't get a grip of itself and start operating in the real world insread of in fantasy land, I think it has a very bleak future.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
CAPE-steve
13 October 2011 16:11:02




I see Liverpool are today espousing everything that's wrong with top flight football


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15269831.stm


Arseholes.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Thankfully it seems they are on their own


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15286887.stm



Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


It all comes down to one thing- GREED. As Saint has said, this sums up everything that is wrong with modern top class football. If football doesn't get a grip of itself and start operating in the real world insread of in fantasy land, I think it has a very bleak future.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


It's very doom and gloom, and personally I'm fascinated to see what will happen to football and what it will be like 20 years down the line. 


It's already been said, that the gap between the top clubs and the rest is getting bigger in the PL, but we're not yet at the level of Real/Barca, and hopefully never will be. If Liverpool got their way it would be an end to competitive football in the PL - just like the Spanish League.

David M Porter
13 October 2011 16:42:10





I see Liverpool are today espousing everything that's wrong with top flight football


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15269831.stm


Arseholes.


Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


Thankfully it seems they are on their own


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15286887.stm



Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


It all comes down to one thing- GREED. As Saint has said, this sums up everything that is wrong with modern top class football. If football doesn't get a grip of itself and start operating in the real world insread of in fantasy land, I think it has a very bleak future.


Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


It's very doom and gloom, and personally I'm fascinated to see what will happen to football and what it will be like 20 years down the line. 


It's already been said, that the gap between the top clubs and the rest is getting bigger in the PL, but we're not yet at the level of Real/Barca, and hopefully never will be. If Liverpool got their way it would be an end to competitive football in the PL - just like the Spanish League.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Or even the Scottish Premier League. Nobody outside of Celtic and Rangers has won this since 1985.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
CAPE-steve
13 October 2011 16:44:35
Very true!
Saint Snow
15 October 2011 13:15:51

Liverpool take a deserved lead against Man U (although Adam did a bit of a dive to win the free kick )


Martin
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Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
15 October 2011 13:25:53

FFS


Martin
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A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Matty H
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15 October 2011 13:27:10
Biggest game in world football my arse. I know Sir Alex is renowned for talking out of his backside, but even so...
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David M Porter
15 October 2011 13:42:00

Sir Furious has allowed himself to be brainwashed by the media in England methinks.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Saint Snow
15 October 2011 13:45:36

Utd pinch an ill-deserved point, while Liverpool missed a hatful of chances to wrap the game up.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Gooner
15 October 2011 14:54:11

Biggest game in world football my arse. I know Sir Alex is renowned for talking out of his backside, but even so...

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Agreed utter nonsense

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


David M Porter
15 October 2011 16:25:50


Utd pinch an ill-deserved point, while Liverpool missed a hatful of chances to wrap the game up.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


That's what tends to happen in football when a team creates many chances in front of goal but doesn't take them- they are likely to live to regret it afterwards. I seem it happen so many times down the years in many competitions.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
llamedos
15 October 2011 17:00:54


Utd pinch an ill-deserved point, while Liverpool missed a hatful of chances to wrap the game up.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

So that makes the the better team the champions or the pretenders? Excuses or results? You do make me laugh mate

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