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SydneyonTees
23 August 2013 08:53:32



Good to see Cook and Root make it to the close of play yesterday. WIth Watson and Smith both making a hundred each the English batsmen need to respond. We need a big 100 from Cook or Root.


If England bat out tomorrow a draw looks likely and in some ways this test seems to be about personal battles for find form in to the 6th test in Brisbane in a few months time.


I am not too concerned if this test ends a draw so long as England have matched Australia and it is not like Old Trafford.


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


Personally I would like England to make 650 and stick the Aussies back in for 3 hours on Sunday (assuming Saturday isn't a total wash-out) and nick out the top 6, just to set up the next series down-under...



Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


That would be sweet  Par on this track is I think between 450 -500 so the Aussies did well enough. Can't see England getting over 500, would be great if they did and then knocked the Aussies over for say 80 

JHutch
23 August 2013 10:25:18

First half century opening partnership of the series!

The Beast from the East
23 August 2013 10:29:10


Kerrigan having an absolute mare. NEXT! Glare

Originally Posted by: Jim_AFCB 


 


Should have picked Monty.


 


He'd have pissed all over them.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


A drunk Monty would have bowled better than Kerrigan, but I suppose they wanted to try out new blood. Not sure why Woakes was picked though


Overall a comfortable series win for England but they have made this awful Aussie team look a lot better than they really are


 


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23 August 2013 10:34:39

First half century opening partnership of the series!

Originally Posted by: JHutch 



Shows how absolute garbage this opening partnership of Cook and Root has been.

Speaking of garbage - Starc.
Gandalf The White
23 August 2013 10:45:18



Kerrigan having an absolute mare. NEXT! Glare

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


Should have picked Monty.


 


He'd have pissed all over them.


Originally Posted by: Jim_AFCB 


A drunk Monty would have bowled better than Kerrigan, but I suppose they wanted to try out new blood. Not sure why Woakes was picked though


Overall a comfortable series win for England but they have made this awful Aussie team look a lot better than they really are


 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


There was a very interesting piece in The Times yesterday about how you try to maintain a winning team.  The contrasting pressures of not dropping established stars v the need to blood new talent, preferably in a winning side.  The timing has to be right - leave it too late and you risk losing the core of the team over a short period, which has happened to the Aussies and to the Windies before them.


Woakes has the potential to be a reasonable replacement for Bresnan as a bowler who can bat (No.8).


Kerrigan has by all accounts performed very well in the Lions and for Lancashire.  If Monty is out of contention then we need to be looking for the next Swann.


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23 August 2013 11:06:50
Cook has been absolute dog shite this summer [sn_dead]
Ally Pally Snowman
23 August 2013 11:44:43

Painfully slow run rate once again from England 2 runs an over, we really have batted poorly this summer yet to make 400 in 7 Tests.


 


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23 August 2013 11:57:40
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23 August 2013 12:06:25
I like this email in the TMS inbox:


Ray Abis, TMS inbox: Surely England are treating their reply on a flat pitch with unnecessary caution. On the principal of doing next what the opposition least expects, I would send out Matt Prior and then Kevin Pietersen with a licence. If the ploy fails, Ian Bell will refloat the ship.
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23 August 2013 12:09:21
Also agree with this one. About as boring a session as you can get. Very much going through the motions.


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Gooner
23 August 2013 12:45:41

Captain Cook fires again


A new captain coming , before we go to Australia or after we lose the Ashes ???


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Gandalf The White
23 August 2013 12:57:25

I like this email in the TMS inbox:


Ray Abis, TMS inbox: Surely England are treating their reply on a flat pitch with unnecessary caution. On the principal of doing next what the opposition least expects, I would send out Matt Prior and then Kevin Pietersen with a licence. If the ploy fails, Ian Bell will refloat the ship.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



What utter nonsense. We could end up 150-4 and hand the advantage to Australia, with the tail starting one position higher because weve played 5 bowlers. Just imagine the headlines if that led to a batting collapse and England following on. "England tinkering and reckless batting hand the initiative to Australia."

This is a Test match not some Mickey Mouse limited overs knock about. One session yielding 65-70 runs isn't an issue. I'd take that over 125-3 at Lunch.

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Gandalf The White
23 August 2013 13:05:27

Captain Cook fires again
A new captain coming , before we go to Australia or after we lose the Ashes ???

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Nope, not going to happen. Either Cook being dropped or England losing the Ashes. Not sure why you persist with this odd line about Cook?

Cook is averaging 27 in this series with 3 50s. Not great given his previous form but certainly not remotely enough to be dropped, even if he wasn't captain.
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23 August 2013 13:15:13

I like this email in the TMS inbox:


Ray Abis, TMS inbox: Surely England are treating their reply on a flat pitch with unnecessary caution. On the principal of doing next what the opposition least expects, I would send out Matt Prior and then Kevin Pietersen with a licence. If the ploy fails, Ian Bell will refloat the ship.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



What utter nonsense. We could end up 150-4 and hand the advantage to Australia, with the tail starting one position higher because weve played 5 bowlers. Just imagine the headlines if that led to a batting collapse and England following on. "England tinkering and reckless batting hand the initiative to Australia."

This is a Test match not some Mickey Mouse limited overs knock about. One session yielding 65-70 runs isn't an issue. I'd take that over 125-3 at Lunch.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



If only you were as passive in the Climate Forum as you would play cricket 😂
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23 August 2013 13:39:57
Exciting innings from Root. Boycott would have been proud of that one.
SydneyonTees
23 August 2013 13:44:57

Exciting innings from Root. Boycott would have been proud of that one.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

 


 


Sir Geoff Boycott to you  


Root is a bit old school though, has an Atherton look about him at times also.

Gandalf The White
23 August 2013 13:57:20

I like this email in the TMS inbox:


Ray Abis, TMS inbox: Surely England are treating their reply on a flat pitch with unnecessary caution. On the principal of doing next what the opposition least expects, I would send out Matt Prior and then Kevin Pietersen with a licence. If the ploy fails, Ian Bell will refloat the ship.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



What utter nonsense. We could end up 150-4 and hand the advantage to Australia, with the tail starting one position higher because weve played 5 bowlers. Just imagine the headlines if that led to a batting collapse and England following on. "England tinkering and reckless batting hand the initiative to Australia."

This is a Test match not some Mickey Mouse limited overs knock about. One session yielding 65-70 runs isn't an issue. I'd take that over 125-3 at Lunch.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



If only you were as passive in the Climate Forum as you would play cricket 😂

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Except the Climate Forum is more like Aussie Rules football shorn of the good manners.....

:-)

It's the problem with too much limited overs cricket: people (who should know better) think a normal session of cautious Test cricket is a failing...

Just saw the batting order on the TV screen - Woakes at 6, Prior at 7...... I rest my case about the stupidity of suggesting that England are being too cautious.
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Gandalf The White
23 August 2013 13:59:39

Exciting innings from Root. Boycott would have been proud of that one.

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 



Sir Geoff Boycott to youUserPostedImage
Root is a bit old school though, has an Atherton look about him at times also.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



I still remember with amusement a comment from a school friend back in the 1960s-

"Boycott has a hundred before Lunch..."

Pause...

"On the 2nd Day."


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JHutch
23 August 2013 15:21:16

Gandalf The White
23 August 2013 15:25:37

Tea: 181-3


Pieterson 29, Bell 4


Should make 250 by the close, perhaps 275 if KP is still there.


3 or 4 down overnight would be fine.


Two days to play, almost certainly some lost time tomorrow.  Say 10 hours of cricket left after today.  Assuming England save the follow-on comfortably then there's not enough time left to force a result.


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23 August 2013 16:02:24

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Originally Posted by: JHutch 



Isn't it just. Mind numbing! 💤
JHutch
23 August 2013 16:15:28

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Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Isn't it just. Mind numbing! 💤

Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Hoping that once they get a bit closer to the follow on target then they might start letting loose a bit.

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23 August 2013 16:17:03

I like this email in the TMS inbox:


Ray Abis, TMS inbox: Surely England are treating their reply on a flat pitch with unnecessary caution. On the principal of doing next what the opposition least expects, I would send out Matt Prior and then Kevin Pietersen with a licence. If the ploy fails, Ian Bell will refloat the ship.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



What utter nonsense. We could end up 150-4 and hand the advantage to Australia, with the tail starting one position higher because weve played 5 bowlers. Just imagine the headlines if that led to a batting collapse and England following on. "England tinkering and reckless batting hand the initiative to Australia."

This is a Test match not some Mickey Mouse limited overs knock about. One session yielding 65-70 runs isn't an issue. I'd take that over 125-3 at Lunch.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



If only you were as passive in the Climate Forum as you would play cricket 😂

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Except the Climate Forum is more like Aussie Rules football shorn of the good manners.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 




😂

KevBrads1
23 August 2013 16:36:20
England need one of the top 3 to be a stroke maker, IMO like Trescothick in the early 2000s. No good the top 3 grinding out 100 odd runs in 5 hours.
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Gooner
23 August 2013 17:21:51

Todays play just reminds meas to why I couldn't sit and watch a test match all day


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