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future_is_orange
15 September 2010 17:14:11


The worry is that he might actually get some money to replace him in January, nothing personal as you say but Valencia was never going to be the next Ronaldo, whoever he goes and buys just might be


Saint Snow wrote:


Good point. I'd have thought he'd want to go for an experienced player if anyone - and we'd know if they were good or not, unlike the situation with The Winker, who all we knew about was that he was tricky on the ball and fell over if you breathed on him.


But you never can tell with Man U. They could still shell out for quality - although not many teams want to part with a top class player in January.


wallaw wrote:


I think it unlikely that Man U will shell out big money on a replacement for Valencia.. Fletcher can slot in at RM so can Hargreaves if he ever gets fit. There is also three recognised wide players in the team Giggs, Nani and Obertan and i believe that Rafael could also play in the RM as could Brown or Oshea. So there is plenty of cover but  maybe not a player who has all the qualities of Valencia.

Gooner
15 September 2010 19:43:05

Arsenal and Chelsea both 3-0 up at HT


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Gooner
15 September 2010 19:56:22

Arsenal and Chelsea both 4-0 up


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David M Porter
15 September 2010 20:05:40


Very frustrating night for Man U... I was somewhat suprised by SAF team selection, however with a game against Liverpool at the weekend he may have thought he could have rested players and gave some hungry players a chance against a Rangers team on paper that should have been beaten.


It was a very typical Rangers european performance  the type that got them to the europa league final a couple of years ago. Walter set his team out to frustrate the living daylight out of the opponents and it did what it said on the tin. They will do the same at Ibrox and look to nick a goal.


future_is_orange wrote:


I think that's the way that Rangers will approach the vast majority, if not all, of their European games just now. I reckon that Walter will have learned a lot from the drubbings we received from Sevilla and Unirea at Ibrox last seaon and will know he will have to be more defensive minded in order to hopefully aviod a repeat. Thast was the odd thing about Rangers last year, they did OK away from home in the CL (two draws and one defeat) but were dreadful at Ibrox- lost all three games.


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future_is_orange
16 September 2010 06:25:18



Very frustrating night for Man U... I was somewhat suprised by SAF team selection, however with a game against Liverpool at the weekend he may have thought he could have rested players and gave some hungry players a chance against a Rangers team on paper that should have been beaten.


It was a very typical Rangers european performance  the type that got them to the europa league final a couple of years ago. Walter set his team out to frustrate the living daylight out of the opponents and it did what it said on the tin. They will do the same at Ibrox and look to nick a goal.


David M Porter wrote:


I think that's the way that Rangers will approach the vast majority, if not all, of their European games just now. I reckon that Walter will have learned a lot from the drubbings we received from Sevilla and Unirea at Ibrox last seaon and will know he will have to be more defensive minded in order to hopefully aviod a repeat. Thast was the odd thing about Rangers last year, they did OK away from home in the CL (two draws and one defeat) but were dreadful at Ibrox- lost all three games.


future_is_orange wrote:


Agree David ...very much back to the football that got them to the final to the Europa league. Its not great to watch but Ranger do have the players who can defend well and who will fight for each other. Walter doesnt have the money or the talent in his squad to compete in any other way. I am sure Walter will look to get 6 points from Buraspor and play the defensive game in his other game against Man U and the two games against Valencia.

future_is_orange
16 September 2010 06:28:50

Fantasy football at the Emirates last night some great attacking play by the Gunners. Was a total joy to watch and the first time i have seen Chamakh, he looks like an excellent purchase. Braga did not help themselves by playing such an open game which Arsenal took full advantage of.


The result aside..Watching the game and seeing the players on the bench and those who were missing thru injury made me realise what a very strong squad Wenger has.

Gooner
16 September 2010 07:17:19


Fantasy football at the Emirates last night some great attacking play by the Gunners. Was a total joy to watch and the first time i have seen Chamakh, he looks like an excellent purchase. Braga did not help themselves by playing such an open game which Arsenal took full advantage of.


The result aside..Watching the game and seeing the players on the bench and those who were missing thru injury made me realise what a very strong squad Wenger has.


future_is_orange wrote:


I thought Braga were poor, but as they say you can only play those infront of you.


Vermarlen,Diaby,Rosiky,Walcott & RVP all out, yes Wenger has a strong squad but we have had in the past and still fallen short.............................time will tell.


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Saint Snow
16 September 2010 08:49:23

I do love watching Arsenal play - if the oppo team doesn't come and park a bus in front their goal.


As a footballing side, they are the equal of any side when on song - and I include Barca in that.



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Gooner
16 September 2010 09:26:49


I do love watching Arsenal play - if the oppo team doesn't come and park a bus in front their goal.


As a footballing side, they are the equal of any side when on song - and I include Barca in that.


Saint Snow wrote:


Agree with that


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SEMerc
16 September 2010 09:32:14


I do love watching Arsenal play - if the oppo team doesn't come and park a bus in front their goal.


As a footballing side, they are the equal of any side when on song - and I include Barca in that.


Saint Snow wrote:


I didn't see last night's game so I can't comment.


I assume you didn't see the first half of Spurs vs Bremen. Fantasy football that was.

Saint Snow
16 September 2010 10:15:38

I assume you didn't see the first half of Spurs vs Bremen. Fantasy football that was.


SEMerc wrote:


No I didn't - but if it was better than some of the Arsenal stuff, then it must have been fantastic. Fabregas at times last night was jaw-droppingly good. The HT analysis pointed out that he wasn't being picked up 'in the hole' so was being given way too much room. Arsenal must be wishing he'd be given that much room every week!



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SEMerc
16 September 2010 10:20:37


I assume you didn't see the first half of Spurs vs Bremen. Fantasy football that was.


Saint Snow wrote:


No I didn't - but if it was better than some of the Arsenal stuff, then it must have been fantastic. Fabregas at times last night was jaw-droppingly good. The HT analysis pointed out that he wasn't being picked up 'in the hole' so was being given way too much room. Arsenal must be wishing he'd be given that much room every week!


SEMerc wrote:


Sounds like Bremen's failure to pick up Van Der Vaart. 

Brian Gaze
16 September 2010 10:28:01

You can tell the time of the year without looking at the calendar. Wenger confident of success.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/9003331.stm


PS: Spurs fans don't laugh - at least Arsenal will still be 'in the chase' at the end of October.


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SEMerc
16 September 2010 11:19:41


You can tell the time of the year without looking at the calendar. Wenger confident of success.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/9003331.stm


PS: Spurs fans don't laugh - at least Arsenal will still be 'in the chase' at the end of October.


Brian Gaze wrote:


Agreed, Brian, I think Spurs will be ready to throw in the towel probably by the end of September.

Saint Snow
16 September 2010 11:21:25



You can tell the time of the year without looking at the calendar. Wenger confident of success.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/9003331.stm


PS: Spurs fans don't laugh - at least Arsenal will still be 'in the chase' at the end of October.


SEMerc wrote:


Agreed, Brian, I think Spurs will be ready to throw in the towel probably by the end of September.


Brian Gaze wrote:


I know you're being tongue-in-cheek, but spare a thought for us, whose season actually will be over by the end of October!


 



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wallaw
16 September 2010 11:43:54




You can tell the time of the year without looking at the calendar. Wenger confident of success.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/9003331.stm


PS: Spurs fans don't laugh - at least Arsenal will still be 'in the chase' at the end of October.


Saint Snow wrote:


Agreed, Brian, I think Spurs will be ready to throw in the towel probably by the end of September.


SEMerc wrote:


I know you're being tongue-in-cheek, but spare a thought for us, whose season actually will be over by the end of October!


 


Brian Gaze wrote:


Spare a thought for Sunderland fans, we will have something to play for until April.......................avoiding relegation


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future_is_orange
29 September 2010 06:16:49

Solid wins for Chelsea and Arsenal last night and qualifying even at this early stage looks like a formality.


Tough game tonight for Man U and i expect them to scramble a draw in Valencia. Glasgow Rangers will look to attack at home against Buraspur and they should be good enough for the win....Leaving Man U in 3rd spot !


Tottenham will be to strong for Twente and be good for a home win.

llamedos
29 September 2010 21:50:42

As I've been at work only been able to catch the BBC text commentary, which gave the impression Man U were on top for the first half. Now home and seen the report which suggests Man U were not the best team on the night?


Who gives a ****** with 3 points in the bag away to a Spanish side......excellent result IMO


 


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NUT
29 September 2010 21:54:07

Great to see Rangers doing well too.

SEMerc
29 September 2010 22:10:45


As I've been at work only been able to catch the BBC text commentary, which gave the impression Man U were on top for the first half. Now home and seen the report which suggests Man U were not the best team on the night?


Who gives a ****** with 3 points in the bag away to a Spanish side......excellent result IMO


 


llamedos wrote:


Yep, a good three points for United who were under the cosh. Valencia had enough chances to seal a win.


Quite the most bizarre game at WHL. A straight red that should have been given but wasn't (Huddlestone). Three penalties that should never have been given but were. Van Der Vaart misses a penalty, which should have been retaken but wasn't given.


Van Der Vaart then scores before rightly being sent off for a second bookable offence.


Spurs worth the win, but the scoreline flattered. Twente are no mugs and I would expect them to beat Werder Bremen at home.

future_is_orange
30 September 2010 06:39:54


As I've been at work only been able to catch the BBC text commentary, which gave the impression Man U were on top for the first half. Now home and seen the report which suggests Man U were not the best team on the night?


Who gives a ****** with 3 points in the bag away to a Spanish side......excellent result IMO


 


llamedos wrote:


Agree John... Valencia is a very difficult place to get a result. They have a fantastic home record in Europe and Man U have been total pants in Spain.


Valencia probably shaded the game in terms of posession but didnt really threat Van Der Sar...I thought Vidic, Ferdinand and young Rafael were excellent at the back. The substitutions made the the difference Macheda played in Hernandez and he worked his shot brilliantly to score...hopefully these two players will get more of a chance to shine.


Great result for Rangers they are in the running and if they can get something from the Valencia games they could bag a suprise qualifying place for the next round.


Terrirfic result for Spurs...sets up 2 great games against Inter.

David M Porter
30 September 2010 18:27:31


Great to see Rangers doing well too.


NUT wrote:


Indeed John. We've already got more points on the board than we had after 6 CL games last season and so far haven't conceded a goal. So far, so good is what I say.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
future_is_orange
02 October 2010 07:54:32



Great to see Rangers doing well too.


David M Porter wrote:


Indeed John. We've already got more points on the board than we had after 6 CL games last season and so far haven't conceded a goal. So far, so good is what I say.


NUT wrote:


Yes Walter has been spot on !! and some much needed cash into the coffers. I really do feel that Rangers will be playing European football after xmas.

SEMerc
19 October 2010 17:01:05

Benitez has a Cantona lapse. No, not a leap into the crowd with a kung fu kick - more like a trawler/sardines moment.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9107108.stm

future_is_orange
20 October 2010 07:07:26


Benitez has a Cantona lapse. No, not a leap into the crowd with a kung fu kick - more like a trawler/sardines moment.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9107108.stm


SEMerc wrote:


Bonus point time.. How many times did the waiter say the word change..?

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