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cowman
31 December 2013 18:12:53


Hi all,
Here's the final video update of 2013;
http://www.gavsweathervids.com 
Just an 8-10 day look ahead - Hint: It's staying very unsettled, LOL!
Can I thank you all for your support of the website and the videos during 2013. Special thanks to Brian and the mods for allowing me to post my updates in the threads.
Happy New Year.UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: sriram 



Thanks Gavin

May I take this opportunity to thank you for all your videos this year which are much appreciated, and to wish you and your family a happy and successful New Year of 2014
Best Wishes
Sriram
UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



Me to.thanks Gav.
Hippydave
31 December 2013 19:04:44

ECM ends with a UK HP and a fairly coherent PV centered over Greenland.


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/ecm/240_mslp500.png


With the jet riding over the top and presumably still quite strong suspect it'd only be a temporary blip but a welcome one.


 Edit: link issues...


 


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David M Porter
31 December 2013 19:05:20

Those unfortunate people that have been affected by the flooding caused by the recent wet weather will be praying that tonight's ECM 12z 240hr chart comes to pass:


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/wz/pics/Recm2401.gif


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Gavin P
31 December 2013 19:12:24

Thanks for all you lovely, kind words all.


Have a great night.


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David M Porter
31 December 2013 19:21:37


Thanks for all you lovely, kind words all.


Have a great night.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


And you, Gavin. Many thanks for all of your forecast videos and other input over the past year.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Maunder Minimum
31 December 2013 19:47:13
The weather may be rubbish and it looks like being zonal all the way through January, but here is wishing a fantastic 2014 to one and all, followed by a fantabulously cold and snowy 2014-15 winter.

New world order coming.
Osprey
31 December 2013 19:51:32

The weather may be rubbish and it looks like being zonal all the way through January, but here is wishing a fantastic 2014 to one and all, followed by a fantabulously cold and snowy 2014-15 winter.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Same to you and everyone Happy New Year for 2014


13 weeks of possible very cold or mild wet weather to go...


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GIBBY
31 December 2013 20:00:32

Good evening. Here is the last report of the 300 or so I have produced through 2013. It is taken from my website using as usual the data supplied by the NWP for Tuesday December 31st 2013.


All models maintain the unsettled and sometimes thoroughly wet and windy conditions over the next week or so as Low pressure continues to move into the UK from the Atlantic repeatedly over the next 7 days or so with strong to gale SW or West winds on occasion. Temperatures will stay largely close to average with some short colder slots when some of the showery spells could produce some snow over the higher hills at times.


GFS shows a drier interlude as more of a ridge crosses West to East over the middle of next week with some drier and brighter weather for all areas before the weather slides back downhill again late next week and through the latter stages of the run. With higher pressure closer to the South than of late the rain amounts would lessen overall with the heaviest and most persistent precipitation reverting towards more NW areas in temperatures close to average for early to mid January.


UKMO shows deep Low pressure just off NW Scotland next Monday with a strong to gale force WSW flow over Britain with rain or showers affecting all areas through the early part of next week in average temperatures.


GEM shows pressure building next week after the deep Low early in the week steadily fills. Early heavy rains at the beginning of the week die out steadily later with dry and brighter conditions while maintaining basically quite average temperatures but with an increased risk of night frost.


NAVGEM also shows Low pressure up to the North slow moving and filling steadily next week so that by soon after midweek the weather becomes less wet with showers dying back towards western coasts as High pressure builds to the Southwest and Southeast.


ECM tonight shows a transformation tonight with pressure rising steadily next week as Low pressure steadily fills to the North next week as it moves away East. By the end of the week High pressure has built strongly over the UK with frost and freezing fog the main issues with some pleasantly bright and sunny days where fog clears,


The GFS Ensembles continue to show an unsettled pattern for the next few weeks with an increase in length of some drier spells in between the rain as we approach next week. There is no real sign of any generally cold conditions though things may trend somewhat colder overall than currently.


The Jet Stream shows the flow continuing to flow East across the Atlantic close to the South of Britain. The trend is to keep the flow well South over Europe late in the output with a push North of the flow over the Atlantic towards Iceland later in week 2.


In Summary tonight there is still good support for a slow down or a cessation of the Atlantic train of Low pressure. The ECM's operational run is at the extreme of hope I feel but there is other good evidence for something drier and brighter later next week with temperatures not likely to be particularly high away from areas of frost and fog which may develop as a result of higher pressure and lighter winds.


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sriram
31 December 2013 20:02:37
Happy New Year of 2014 to all members on the weather forum

Don't forget that that the most important thing is that that the weather is always here to surprise us and will continue to do so - just a few recent examples:

The record summer of 1990 and 1995 and July 2013 - and just to keep us on our guard washout summer 2007

Winter 1995-96 and 2008-9 and Dec 2010 - but the mild snow free winters of the late 90s and 2000s

We will always get all types of winter and summer regardless of global warming etc
Sriram
Sedgley, West Midlands ( just south of Wolverhampton )
162m ASL
Ally Pally Snowman
31 December 2013 20:03:26
With ensembles this mild we are still a million miles away from a cold spell sadly. The SW is our only hope this winter. Happy New Year everybody.


http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.php 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Stormchaser
31 December 2013 20:25:04

ECM is amplifying a trough further west than we've seen in a long time - over the central U.S. in fact, and that serves to shove that deep cold out of Canada, so providing a means by which to break out of the pattern of the past half-month (it's only been half a month... feels like much longer!).


Alas there is no support from UKMO or GFS for that rapid trough develooment over there. GEM comes close, but only ECM has what is a very severe weather event across the pond.


GEM does achieve the pattern change though, so it's ECM + GEM vs. GFS + UKMO. Both sides have their strengths and weaknesses...


 


Whatever we end up with, Happy New Year to you all 


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Retron
31 December 2013 20:27:39
12z ECM ensembles - the cooldown from the 9th is still on the menu:

http://i41.tinypic.com/ml30jb.gif 
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Osprey
31 December 2013 20:37:30


ECM is amplifying a trough further west than we've seen in a long time - over the central U.S. in fact, and that serves to shove that deep cold out of Canada, so providing a means by which to break out of the pattern of the past half-month (it's only been half a month... feels like much longer!).


Alas there is no support from UKMO or GFS for that rapid trough develooment over there. GEM comes close, but only ECM has what is a very severe weather event across the pond.


GEM does achieve the pattern change though, so it's ECM + GEM vs. GFS + UKMO. Both sides have their strengths and weaknesses...


 


Whatever we end up with, Happy New Year to you all 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


Enjoyed reading your posts 2013


Have a good new year for 2014


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Gooner
31 December 2013 20:45:36

With ensembles this mild we are still a million miles away from a cold spell sadly. The SW is our only hope this winter. Happy New Year everybody. Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

">http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.php


Thank the lord I live in the UK then


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png



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Quantum
31 December 2013 21:39:38


With ensembles this mild we are still a million miles away from a cold spell sadly. The SW is our only hope this winter. Happy New Year everybody. Originally Posted by: Gooner 

">http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.php

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Thank the lord I live in the UK then


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png




Look at it this way, there is a 5% chance of an epic cold spell by the end of that. 


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29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Polar Low
31 December 2013 21:50:05

shhhh everybody missed no 12


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?code=12&ech=240&mode=0&carte=1




With ensembles this mild we are still a million miles away from a cold spell sadly. The SW is our only hope this winter. Happy New Year everybody. Originally Posted by: Quantum 

">http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.php

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Thank the lord I live in the UK then


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png



Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Look at it this way, there is a 5% chance of an epic cold spell by the end of that. 


Chiltern Blizzard
31 December 2013 21:54:44
Poor charts on the 12z, esp GFS. Even the forecast strat warming has downgraded over the past 24 hours.

Happy New Year to all... Hope the charts improve in 2014!

Andrew
Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
Deep Powder
31 December 2013 21:55:02



Hi all,
Here's the final video update of 2013;
http://www.gavsweathervids.com 
Just an 8-10 day look ahead - Hint: It's staying very unsettled, LOL!
Can I thank you all for your support of the website and the videos during 2013. Special thanks to Brian and the mods for allowing me to post my updates in the threads.
Happy New Year.UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Top stuff this year Gavin.......a huge amount of work greatly appreciated by so many of us UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: llamedos 


Agreed UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



Definitely, Gavin P = legend
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ARTzeman
31 December 2013 22:34:47

Old year out. New year coming in.. Same weather for the start. Thank all for your outputs and wisdom in the replies...Might learn some more next year...Happy New Year to all.






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LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
31 December 2013 23:33:59
happy New Year to all and Best Wishes.

It today's ECMWF run develops a cold NNW at rear of Low departing UK, then by Thursday and Friday 9th and 10th jan. 2014 develops a Stable cold UK Blocking High, and it the ECMWF 12z run also ends the PV Low through Central W and NW then East and NE Greenland- hugely better and different forecast to the GFS 12z and 18z for that time.

I stopped checking the 12z GFS after the said period of 9th and 10th January, but looking at the 18z GFS model! it looks very Silly with the quickly Low Pressure from SE Canada- sent to N and NW Atlantic embedded with Less cold air to it South and colder to it NW, quickly for the 9th and the 10th jan. 2014 merges it with the UK departing Low P Vortex - keeping the Westerly flow bound with Cyclonic West winds over us.

seeing how great the Cold NW backside of Departing to Norwegian Sea SE Arctic Sea to our NE and through W and N Norway for the Sunday p.m., large uK PV low as it leaves us it turns it to cold air mass on the Wednesday to Thursday 8th and 9th Jan. 2014 with a Cyclonic cold NW flow turn it quite cold over the UK which GFS is trying to replace with new Low with Cold and Warm air NW Atlantic and shunt that over the UK for said time, it's interesting if the Developing UK High Modelled by the ECMWF be in charge over UK for 9th and 10th Jan. 2014, with nE USA SE Canada having their blocking High around that time and the ECMWF have a large Deep Low have dragging Cold air under a NW flow via Greenland as it moves the PV Low through there.

Would best better forecast than what GFS is modelling!!.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Andy Woodcock
31 December 2013 23:49:06
Just to add to my previous post, in 1972 climate scientist estimated that 6 winters like 1971/72 would be enough to trigger an ice age due to negative feedback.

This was then picked up in John Gribbons 1973 book 'The Sixth a Winter'.

Sorry OT but the output is so crap we need a New Year distraction!

Andy
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The Beast from the East
01 January 2014 00:26:33

Happy New Year everyone


As mentioned quite a shift to cold in the ECM ens. Perhaps we are finally seeing the light at the end of all this miserable wet weather!


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/services/ensemble-forecast.html


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Hungry Tiger
01 January 2014 00:54:33


Happy New Year everyone


As mentioned quite a shift to cold in the ECM ens. Perhaps we are finally seeing the light at the end of all this miserable wet weather!


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/services/ensemble-forecast.html


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Lets have a look at GFS then.


 


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Hungry Tiger
01 January 2014 00:58:50


January 1984 here we come.


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UncleAlbert
01 January 2014 01:58:46
Just when you thought things were OK, the pest is back, but can our hero from SSW save the day…….. coming this January……………

MODERN WINTER 2

Thanks for all the informative posts, the passion and the intrigue, great fun, great site…..
HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.
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