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Bugglesgate
31 December 2013 15:58:50

Weather warning for Friday look odd - seems to be warning that the  sea and  a bit of the costal path is doing to get drenched 


Edit


Expanding the map out a bit it "digs" further inland "oop North".


 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
nsrobins
31 December 2013 17:37:15


Weather warning for Friday look odd - seems to be warning that the  sea and  a bit of the costal path is doing to get drenched 


Edit


Expanding the map out a bit it "digs" further inland "oop North".


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


The coastal areas covered are for effect of wind and high tide.

Many coastal locations have a high tide on the 3rd. Portsmouth Harbour is at 5.0m at noon - about as high as it gets. Throw a SSW gale in and sea walls will top.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
31 December 2013 23:59:10
The Met Office yellow rain warning for tomorrow has just been updated to include slightly higher rainfall totals. 15-30mm expected quite widely with 40mm on South facing hills.
idj20
01 January 2014 08:21:25
It's ony 8 am and already it's blowing a gale at this end - and there's at least 24 hours of this to come if some of the charts are to be believed. Doesn't help that it's being another one of those southerly-type affair so that makes my area feel exposed.

I'm not at all "bovvered" about the lack of snow and "proper cold" (not sure why anyone would wish that what with heating costs as it is) but I wish this windy stuff would do one. Guess, it could be worse where I don't live in a flood plain worrying about flooding on top of the wind, like what is happening in parts of Kent.
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Bugglesgate
01 January 2014 10:02:42

Pretty gusty here
Noticed that the neighbours daft trampoline thingy was "lifting off" on one side just now - luckily the wind direction makes it unlikely it will end up though one of my windows if it takes off completely !


I'm amazed (well actually I'm not!) at the lack of preparation some people take. OK, if you are going to lose your roof, you are going to lose your roof and there isn't much anyone can do about that - but you can certainly tie everything down in the garden so that you don't end up with a wheelie bin through the side of your conservatory (etc).


 


 


 


 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
ARTzeman
01 January 2014 10:17:34

Going to be wet and very breezy here. especially mid day... 






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Others just get wet.
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Maunder Minimum
01 January 2014 10:19:07
Blowing a squally gale here in Worcestershire, with heavy rain. Flooding beckons!

New world order coming.
JimC
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01 January 2014 10:22:16

Wind beginning to get quite strong here now, the old 40ft fir tree next door's getting a battering.

Jive Buddy
01 January 2014 10:24:58
Noticed that the neighbours daft trampoline thingy was "lifting off" on one side just now - luckily the wind direction

I bet that made you jump!...😉😛
It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

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Stormchaser
01 January 2014 10:37:54

After last night's downpours and with massive surface water flooding already this morning, with GFS predicting a lot more rain to come including an environment ripe for more downpours tonight, I'm thinking the rain warning should be upgraded to amber!


 


A truly atrocious start to 2014 here. Got super-soaked last night  but had a good time even so 


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chiversa
01 January 2014 11:14:01


After last night's downpours and with massive surface water flooding already this morning, with GFS predicting a lot more rain to come including an environment ripe for more downpours tonight, I'm thinking the rain warning should be upgraded to amber!


 


A truly atrocious start to 2014 here. Got super-soaked last night  but had a good time even so 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


 


I luckily escaped the downpours last night, and walkied home under a starlight sky around 12:30, however this morning  the wind is back and the rain has ben heavy and driving. since around 6 am. but it amazes me what the river Test which is my local river will take, I guess its just a well managed river aith a wide flood plain which hasnt been built over, Lots of surface water though.


Alan


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The Beast from the East
01 January 2014 11:39:13

some really torrential stuff developing to the SW. If it gets here we are in trouble and certainly an Amber warning should be issued.


Already lots of surface flooding here


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01 January 2014 11:56:09


some really torrential stuff developing to the SW. If it gets here we are in trouble and certainly an Amber warning should be issued.


Already lots of surface flooding here


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I don't understand what the Met Office are playing at. They updated their yellow warning at 2317 last night to increase the impact factor of today's storm due to increased expected rainfall totals. But at the same time they reduced the "likelihood" factor in their grid matrix which kept the warning at yellow. There can be no justification for that. The likelihood of today's event was if anything increasing not decreasing. Were they on the booze?


If they had just increased the impact element alone then the update last night would have immediately warranted an amber warning. Instead because of the bizzare way they dealt with the update it remained yellow. Given the already saturated ground and the amounts of rainfall expected today an amber warning is entirely justified IMO.


In my view the warning system has been rather discredited by the events of the last couple of months. In principle I think the system is a good one but the way it has been applied of late defies belief. There seems to be a real reluctance to upgrade from yellow warnings. Maybe this is because of criticism in the past when perhaps warnings were upgraded too much but two wrongs don't make a right.

Phil G
01 January 2014 12:11:04


some really torrential stuff developing to the SW. If it gets here we are in trouble and certainly an Amber warning should be issued.
Already lots of surface flooding here

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


I don't understand what the Met Office are playing at. They updated their yellow warning at 2317 last night to increase the impact factor of today's stormdue to increased expected rainfall totals. But at the same time they reduced the "likelihood" factor in their grid matrix which kept the warning at yellow. There can be no justification for that. The likelihood of today's event was if anything increasing not decreasing. Were they on the booze?
If they had just increased the impact element alone then the update last night would have immediately warranted an amber warning. Instead because of the bizzare way they dealt with the update it remained yellow. Given the already saturated ground and the amounts of rainfall expected today an amber warning is entirely justified IMO.
In my view the warning system has been ratherdiscredited by the events of the last couple of months. In principle I think the system is a good one but the way it has been applied of late defies belief. There seems to be a real reluctance to upgrade from yellow warnings. Maybe this is because of criticism in the past when perhaps warnings were upgraded too much but two wrongs don't make a right.

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Sometimes the correct warnings have been justified, but too often they are not and they should have the finger on the pulse in their position. The decision making is inconsistent and slow to react so either the person or process should be reviewed.

schmee
01 January 2014 12:41:20
flooded roads. We are half way to last weeks floods in appearance.
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garybournemouth
01 January 2014 12:56:54
The large Christmas tree in our town centre has snapped in the wind. Very gusty wind today here on the South coast.

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nsrobins
01 January 2014 13:46:34

A few gusts to around 50mph but it's the rain that's the story.


Surface water everywhere and a spell of heavy rain again approaching.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
JimC
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01 January 2014 13:49:08

Some serious amounts of rain falling now, 20.8mm since midnight and still hammering down. Had a drive round a little earlier and there's a lot of surface water on the roads as most drains seem to be blocked, the river running through the town is rising pretty quick and looks as if it'll flood once again if this weather keeps going.

Whether Idle
01 January 2014 14:09:23

Blowing a gale again.  Gusts up to 52 mph at Langdon Bay, lashing rain.  Getting used to this now...


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Jive Buddy
01 January 2014 14:28:57


Blowing a gale again.  Gusts up to 52 mph at Langdon Bay, lashing rain.  Getting used to this now...


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Latest here in the village, sustained 34mph, gust to 48.8mph


With plenty of rain, really quite a wild day out there!


It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

Location: St. Mary Cray, S.E. London border with Kent.
idj20
01 January 2014 14:47:59


Blowing a gale again. Gusts up to 52 mph at Langdon Bay, lashing rain. Getting used to this now...

Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 


Latest here in the village, sustained 34mph, gust to 48.8mph
With plenty of rain, really quite a wild day out there!

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 



Whereas I just want it to stop. I can even feel the wind humming around the house from indoors. [sn_dead] [sn_disap]

And it's not even peaking yet. [sn_sad] However, I wonder what the person/people living in that newly built house at Crete Way (the top of the hills overlooking the town) are making of it all.
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Whether Idle
01 January 2014 17:41:57

Blowing a gale again. Gusts up to 52 mph at Langdon Bay, lashing rain. Getting used to this now...

Originally Posted by: idj20 

Latest here in the village, sustained 34mph, gust to 48.8mph With plenty of rain, really quite a wild day out there!

Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 

Whereas I just want it to stop. I can even feel the wind humming around the house from indoors. [sn_dead] [sn_disap] And it's not even peaking yet. [sn_sad] However, I wonder what the person/people living in that newly built house at Crete Way (the top of the hills overlooking the town) are making of it all.

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


That's Gusty's new pad


 


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
ARTzeman
01 January 2014 17:45:38

Looks like this rain is going to last until midnight for this area...






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Others just get wet.
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Retron
01 January 2014 18:02:58
Not *quite* as windy as the last two goes here but the lights have flickered twice so far this evening.. quite unsettling. We had another gas cut earlier as well, although sod's law just as the engineer turned up it came back on again.

The wind info from the yacht club a couple of miles away is as follows:

Sampled at 18:01

Direction/beaufort: SSW F6

Wind spd: 32 mph / 28 kts
Wind gust: 37 mph / 32 kts
Avg (5m): 35 mph / 30 kts
Avg (1h): 32 mph / 28 kts
Max. gust: 52 mph at 12:48

Gusts during the last half hour have been up to the high 40s, but it's not (yet) as severe as the mid 60s of last time, nor the low 70s of the Christmas Eve storm.

Leysdown, north Kent
Rob K
01 January 2014 19:13:17
I'm quite enjoying this wet and windy weather really. Makes everything feel cosier when it's wild outside.

20mm of rain in the 12 hours to 6pm at Farnborough and wouldn't be surprised if we exceeded that here as we hit some very heavy bursts at times.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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