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Zubzero
07 January 2014 19:07:29

Not a great ECM prob one of the mildest when set against its ensembles. We would be unlucky if it works out like this. Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

">http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1922.html


At 850hpa maybe on the gound its cold and raw/wet

doctormog
some faraway beach
07 January 2014 19:08:32


Stunning Chart lovely movement from 2 energy lovely hold of heights my projector flickers with delight


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/jma.php?ech=192&mode=1&nh=1&archive=0


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Love those vertical lines pumping mild, Atlantic air up the west coast of Greenland.


An extreme option, but a joy to see it in the model output for mid-January


2 miles west of Taunton, 32 m asl, where "milder air moving in from the west" becomes SNOWMAGEDDON.
Well, two or three times a decade it does, anyway.
Gooner
07 January 2014 19:11:03


Some decent charts floating around tonight ...................at last


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Zubzero
07 January 2014 19:17:17


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rjma1921.gif 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Some decent charts floating around tonight ...................at last




With blocking to the north & east setting up I foresee razor blades out one run and shovels out the next. As the models decide what will happen.

SEMerc
07 January 2014 19:18:50


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rjma1921.gif 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Some decent charts floating around tonight ...................at last



No pun intended.

Polar Low
07 January 2014 19:19:57

Nothing much wrong with that from ecm even Q might be a bit happy


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=240&mode=101&map=0&archive=0

GIBBY
07 January 2014 19:22:50


Indeed even Martin might have to say something cold tonight as I think his a secret mild fan


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.html 

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 



Hey Naughty, Naughty..


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Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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JoeShmoe99
07 January 2014 19:27:43

Could go epic in a couple of days but the ECM not as good as the other output tonight. Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

">http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.html


The ECM has history churning out cold charts at 240, lets wait and see whether it maintains the trend over a few runs and where it sits amongst the ensembles

Ally Pally Snowman
07 January 2014 19:33:17

UserPostedImageStunning Chart lovely movement from 2 energy lovely hold of heightsmy projector flickers with delight
http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/jma.php?ech=192&mode=1&nh=1&archive=0 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 




Yep very good from the Japs again. Better than the ECM makes less of the incoming low.

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
moomin75
07 January 2014 19:41:16


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010712/ECH1-240.GIF?07-0


I have seen worse 240 charts from ECM this Winter


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Yep, pretty good if you want more copious rainfall to add to the flooding misery.


Not really quite there yet Marcus, but a step in the right direction I guess.


As Gav said earlier though, the big worry is stalling fronts and more very heavy rain.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Quantum
07 January 2014 19:41:39


Nothing much wrong with that from ecm even Q might be a bit happy


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=240&mode=101&map=0&archive=0


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


I'd be happier if we can get some significant height rises over greenland at some point. It really helps if you want a cold spell longer than a couple of days. Either that or keep the pressure low in the med. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gooner
07 January 2014 19:52:58

Still waiting for UKMO I see


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Zubzero
07 January 2014 20:00:14


Still waiting for UKMO I see


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


It's on its way out now 

Gooner
07 January 2014 20:03:12

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014010712/UN144-21.GIF?07-21


Nothing to get excited about


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Whether Idle
07 January 2014 20:04:32


JMA =Pick of the bunch tonight.  I await cross model agreement on cold at 96 hours before popping the champagne.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Ally Pally Snowman
07 January 2014 20:13:56

JMA =Pick of the bunch tonight. I await cross model agreement on cold at 96 hours before popping the champagne.



Think GEM could well be the best tonight heavy snow showers for the SE starting in just 7 days.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rgem1682.html 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Gooner
07 January 2014 20:16:29


That would be most welcome with a cold breeze setting in


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Rob K
07 January 2014 20:17:33
GEM and JMA, the last refuge of the British cold-hunter. :o)
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Rob K
07 January 2014 20:21:03

On a closer note, I see that the heavy rainfall for tomorrow into Thursday is now modelled significantly further north:


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2014/01/07/basis12/ukuk/prec/14010900_0712.gif


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/euro4/2014/01/07/basis12/ukuk/prec/14010900_0712.gif


Looks like the southern areas worst hit by flooding will escape this batch.


 


Also looks like the worst of tonight's rain may stay out in the channel, at least on NAE. Euro4 brings it across Kent.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
doctormog
07 January 2014 20:22:46

GEM and JMA, the last refuge of the British cold-hunter. :o)

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



...and the ECM? 😝
some faraway beach
07 January 2014 20:23:30


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014010712/UN144-21.GIF?07-21


Nothing to get excited about


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


528 decametre line somewhere in the English Channel.


OK. Maybe "excited" isn't the word, but "pleasing" would be about right.


 


2 miles west of Taunton, 32 m asl, where "milder air moving in from the west" becomes SNOWMAGEDDON.
Well, two or three times a decade it does, anyway.
Whether Idle
07 January 2014 20:25:20



http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014010712/UN144-21.GIF?07-21


Nothing to get excited about


Originally Posted by: some faraway beach 


528 decametre line somewhere in the English Channel.


OK. Maybe "excited" isn't the word, but "pleasing" would be about right.


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


What would follow would be interesting also...


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Gooner
07 January 2014 20:25:55


On a closer note, I see that the heavy rainfall for tomorrow into Thursday is now modelled significantly further north:


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2014/01/07/basis12/ukuk/prec/14010900_0712.gif


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/euro4/2014/01/07/basis12/ukuk/prec/14010900_0712.gif


Looks like the southern areas worst hit by flooding will escape this batch.


 


Also looks like the worst of tonight's rain may stay out in the channel, at least on NAE. Euro4 brings it across Kent.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


A bit different to the forecast on the Beeb at 18:30 Rob, I had rain over me , with some heavy bursts thrown in


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


doctormog
07 January 2014 20:27:02


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014010712/UN144-21.GIF?07-21 
Nothing to get excited about

Originally Posted by: some faraway beach 


528 decametre line somewhere in the English Channel.
OK. Maybe "excited" isn't the word, but "pleasing" would be about right.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



The 528dam (500-1000hPa) line is in a line from somewhere over Ireland to the far NW of Scotland on that chart according to my "at a glance" calculations. 😄
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