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David M Porter
10 February 2014 17:35:22

Are there, at long, long last, signs of a change to something a bit drier in the model output? Many places sure need it right now.


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Lenzie, Glasgow

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squish
10 February 2014 17:59:31
Doesn't look like it!
D.E.W on Dartmoor. 300m asl
Gooner
10 February 2014 18:22:26

Doesn't look like it!

Originally Posted by: squish 


I agree, it looks unsettled for sometime ..................sadly


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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North Oxfordshire
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The Beast from the East
10 February 2014 18:27:38

Wednesday storm bombs on ECM, shame we cant see the period between 48hrs and 72. Really dangerous for Ireland


 


 


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The Beast from the East
10 February 2014 18:29:46

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014021012/ECM1-144.GIF?10-0


ECM and UKMO in agreement. Potential for the first major snow event of the winter if we can get a good slider. Scotland looks good either way


 


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The Beast from the East
10 February 2014 18:41:23

Hello


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014021012/ECH1-168.GIF?10-0


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The Beast from the East
10 February 2014 18:45:32

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014021012/ECH0-192.GIF?10-0


A very cold high, severe frosts but dry


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Stormchaser
10 February 2014 18:47:51

Well I never... perhaps we'll see the flood waters freezing over starting in 8 days time 


What a welcome end to the incessant rains that would be! Hopefully with a nice clear airmass too, though you can never be sure of that.


Now let's see further energy disrupting SE please!


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The Beast from the East
10 February 2014 18:50:33

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014021012/ECH1-216.GIF?10-0


LOL, might get flooded from burst pipes now


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The Beast from the East
10 February 2014 18:59:22

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014021012/ECM0-240.GIF?10-0


a few tweaks needed, but we could be on the brink  of a spectacular last 10 days of "official" winter


But GFS ens not really buying it


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The Beast from the East
10 February 2014 19:04:18

I think ECM has showed what a cruel tease she is this winter,  flashing some leg too many times since the end of November. I'm not falling for it again!


  


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Stormchaser
10 February 2014 19:08:52

With UKMO supporting ECM at the critical stage on day 6... it's one to raise the eyebrows at least 


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Osprey
10 February 2014 19:17:59


Doesn't look like it!

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I agree, it looks unsettled for sometime ..................sadly


Originally Posted by: squish 



I think ECM has showed what a cruel tease she is this winter,  flashing some leg too many times since the end of November. I'm not falling for it again!


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Go on...


Have faith


Around the 18th/20th ECM will show you more than a leg...


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Maunder Minimum
10 February 2014 19:26:35



Doesn't look like it!

Originally Posted by: Osprey 


I agree, it looks unsettled for sometime ..................sadly


Originally Posted by: Gooner 



I think ECM has showed what a cruel tease she is this winter,  flashing some leg too many times since the end of November. I'm not falling for it again!


Originally Posted by: squish 


Go on...


Have faith


Around the 18th/20th ECM will show you more than a leg...


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


The change is coming - by the 20th we will be free of raging zonality, or even a couple of days earlier. Next weekend will be the last of these incessant, zonal storm systems for a while.


New world order coming.
Gooner
10 February 2014 19:29:39


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014021012/ECM1-144.GIF?10-0


ECM and UKMO in agreement. Potential for the first major snow event of the winter if we can get a good slider. Scotland looks good either way


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Certainly enough cold air around


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Osprey
10 February 2014 19:39:03



http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014021012/ECM1-144.GIF?10-0


ECM and UKMO in agreement. Potential for the first major snow event of the winter if we can get a good slider. Scotland looks good either way


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Certainly enough cold air around


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Yes and I've got a ronking snow headache that says snow is imminent......... Somewhere on the planet...


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JoeShmoe99
10 February 2014 19:43:21

And yet again the ECM 240 looks cold (if mostly dry), whats that, the 4th or 5th time this winter? Yesterday it was showing southerlies!


At least the general trend appears to be drier end of next week but sadly a lot of folks are going to have to endure a horrible few days before that


In other news i've got snowdrops in the garden and the sun felt a little bit warm today #spring

Ally Pally Snowman
10 February 2014 19:43:38



http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014021012/ECM1-144.GIF?10-0


ECM and UKMO in agreement. Potential for the first major snow event of the winter if we can get a good slider. Scotland looks good either way


 


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


Certainly enough cold air around


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Yes and I've got a ronking snow headache that says snow is imminent......... Somewhere on the planet...

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 




I know these are the 0z ensembles but it would take a massive flip for the 12z Op to be correct it looks colder than all 50 of them.

http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.php 
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Ally Pally Snowman
10 February 2014 19:52:15
Very wet until the 16th then maybe a little dryer. Never particularly cold either.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
doctormog
10 February 2014 19:52:51

And yet again the ECM 240 looks cold (if mostly dry), whats that, the 4th or 5th time this winter? Yesterday it was showing southerlies!


At least the general trend appears to be drier end of next week but sadly a lot of folks are going to have to endure a horrible few days before that


In other news i've got snowdrops in the garden and the sun felt a little bit warm today #spring

Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 



I've had snowdrops for about 3 weeks and it still feels like autumn. 😝

As for the output: More of the same in the next week with some snow potential at times but also lots of wind and rain possible for the places that least need it. Beyond then there are signs of a change and maybe even settled conditions (cold or otherwise). We've been here before so I would urge caution for a day or two at least.
Ally Pally Snowman
10 February 2014 20:31:00
ECM 12z ensembles don't back the Op and look unsettled and mild

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.html 
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GIBBY
10 February 2014 20:38:03

Good evening. Here is tonight's report on the midday outputs supplied by the NWP for today Monday February 10th 2014 and lifted from my website at http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


All models show a disturbing period of weather coming up over the remainder of this week and the weekend. Today's benign conditions will be replaced overnight by an active squally trough moving East over the UK later tonight and tomorrow followed by a fresh to strong Westerly flow. Heavy rain and hills now over the North will be replaced tomorrow by wintry showers and sunny intervals with the North and West seeing the most showers with some drier periods developing across the South and East. through Wednesday another major storm system propels it's way across England deepening explosively as it goes with severe gales and very heavy rain will sweep through all areas followed by squally wintry showers with hail and thunder on Thursday. A repeat performance of the storm will likely occur later on Friday with a colder and showery period over the weekend with strong West then NW winds with showers, wintry and heavy with snow on hills.


GFS then shows next week with very little change I'm afraid as further Low pressure areas move across the UK with further bands of rain followed by showers wintry on hills in the North. It will also be windy at times but maybe without the risk of damaging winds possible this week. The very end of the run still shows a drier phase as something of a ridge crosses East but with Low pressure out to the west and NW it all looks very tentative.


UKMO tonight shows the UK lying in a void between two low pressure systems. The one to the East taking it's showery weather away with it while the second approaches the West of the UK later in the day with further rain, strong winds and hill snow in rather chilly weather.


GEM looks similar to UKMO at Day 6 moving forward to maintain unsettled and sometimes windy weather with rain at times as Low pressure areas are never far away from the UK to the North.


NAVGEM closes it's run tonight with a Westerly flow backing SW slowly as we go through the start of next week. With pressure relatively low and winds brisk in strength troughs will continue to deliver rain at times in temperatures slowly recovering from the chilly weekend.


ECM tonight is the joker of the pack and would if verified bring immediate relief from the wet and wild weather of late. It shows High pressure developing across the UK by midweek next week and towards Scandinavia with fine, very cold and very frosty weather developing with any rain restricted to the far SW then NW and sharp frost and fog night and morning very likely.


The ECM 9 and 10 Day Mean Charts don't support the operational tonight with the same consensus more likely than has been shown for some time meaning the likelihood is that Low pressure will continue to dominate th weather over the UK with a most likely Low pressure area to the NW with SW or West winds and rain at times still for all areas.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif


The GFS Ensembles show fairly average uppers across the UK through tonight's output rising somewhat towards the end of the run. There is still quite a lot of rain shown at times with this week in particular showing some uncomfortably high rainfall amounts.


The GFS Jet Stream forecast shows the flow carrying on unabated in it's current form so changes in the weather pattern remain unlikely. What's more concerning tonight is the trend to ridge the flow North is less apparent tonight as well as the weakening of the flow with a strong flow now shown, still troughing to the South of the UK in two weeks time.


In Summary tonight with the exception of the ECM operational it looks more of the same tonight with much of the output showing less in the way of improvements than in recent runs. However, the ECM operational has thrown a lifeline tonight and I hope it manifests and spreads between the other outputs soon to buy some much needed time to enable flooding relief work to take place without it battling against further rainfall. In the mean time it's batten down the hatches for the next 5-6 days as a couple of very disruptive periods of weather look like affecting the areas who least need it as very heavy rainfall and damaging gales look possible.


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roger63
10 February 2014 20:52:56


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014021012/ECM0-240.GIF?10-0


a few tweaks needed, but we could be on the brink  of a spectacular last 10 days of "official" winter


But GFS ens not really buying it


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


yes please.Double whammy- end to rain, cold end to rain.

Polar Low
10 February 2014 20:55:08

Many members do agree with the opp at the t120 sort of time ecm opp maybe a trend setter also mean looks very much different than it has been  and it would be slow in its trend outcome anyway at that far out


http://www.ecmwf.int/samples/d/inspect/teasers/samplers/banner/mean_sea_level_pressure_and_temperature_at_850hpa!120!pop!od!enfo!enplot!2014021012!!/


 


ECM 12z ensembles don't back the Op and look unsettled and mild

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.html

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Polar Low
10 February 2014 21:01:43

indeed James and t120 ecm mean looks a lot different to what it has been we have some hope at last


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=120&mode=1&map=1&type=1&archive=0



With UKMO supporting ECM at the critical stage on day 6... it's one to raise the eyebrows at least 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 

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