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SEMerc
20 June 2014 12:11:38


My gut feeling is that Italy will win against Costa Rica and then draw with Uruguay.  However, there is a scenario where Italy beat Costa Rica and Uruguay 1-0, and England win against Costa Rica but only by one goal and go out on goal difference.  That wouldn't surprise me either. 


Originally Posted by: howham 


Hmmmm, more like Italy beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we lose to Costa Rica.

Saint Snow
20 June 2014 12:15:41



My gut feeling is that Italy will win against Costa Rica and then draw with Uruguay.  However, there is a scenario where Italy beat Costa Rica and Uruguay 1-0, and England win against Costa Rica but only by one goal and go out on goal difference.  That wouldn't surprise me either. 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Hmmmm, more like Italy beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we lose to Costa Rica.


Originally Posted by: howham 


 


That's my opinion, too


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haghir22
20 June 2014 12:20:30




My gut feeling is that Italy will win against Costa Rica and then draw with Uruguay.  However, there is a scenario where Italy beat Costa Rica and Uruguay 1-0, and England win against Costa Rica but only by one goal and go out on goal difference.  That wouldn't surprise me either. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Hmmmm, more like Italy beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we lose to Costa Rica.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


That's my opinion, too


Originally Posted by: howham 


Good grief, can you imagine if this happened? 

YNWA
Gooner
20 June 2014 12:29:26





My gut feeling is that Italy will win against Costa Rica and then draw with Uruguay.  However, there is a scenario where Italy beat Costa Rica and Uruguay 1-0, and England win against Costa Rica but only by one goal and go out on goal difference.  That wouldn't surprise me either. 


Originally Posted by: haghir22 


Hmmmm, more like Italy beat Costa Rica and Uruguay and we lose to Costa Rica.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


That's my opinion, too


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Good grief, can you imagine if this happened? 


Originally Posted by: howham 


yes we really would be out of the world cup then

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nsrobins
20 June 2014 12:39:41
Well in a weirdly unrealistic way I am optimistic Italy will best Costa Rica this evening
It all then goes to the last round and when games are playing simultaneously strange things happen
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ARTzeman
20 June 2014 12:47:44

What ever the outcome I shall keep watching the game.... and enjoy the sport.





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Saint Snow
20 June 2014 13:18:09


What ever the outcome I shall keep watching the game.... and enjoy the sport.


Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


 


Where's the fun in that?  


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Medlock Vale Weather
20 June 2014 13:52:58



And Eriksson was poor, IMO. He had 'the golden generation' but tried to change our natural playing style, which worsened us, he never had a plan B, and squandered a 'golden' opportunity.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


England's poor international record (and it is very poor if they want to be considerd in the top league as I pointed out earlier in this thread) can't all be down to a particular manager squandering opportunities. On the management side England have been very progressive, trying 2 foreigners and a range of Englishmen. The harsh reality is the players haven't performed in the Euros and World Cups. Whether that's because they aren't good enough or are more focused on the new domestic season is another question. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Think the problem is we've had a couple of good players mixed in with more average ones in same team, can be no doubting Beckham was a good player and there was a lot of pressure on him during World Cups of 98, 2002 and 2006, but one player cannot win you the World Cup or Euros, most of the time you need a strong squad in all areas of the pitch. It's a bit like Gareth Bale and Wales - great player but mixed with poor ones that's why Wales didn't qualify.

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warrenb
20 June 2014 13:53:17
You know what, I knew the result of last nights game just by watch the National Anthems. Uruguayans belting theirs out, our boys, nervous and scared mumbling there way through. They froze and bottled it, in the way they always do.
Gerard and Rooney always do. And when the experienced and captain of the team clam up and go into theirs shells, were can the youngsters look.
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SEMerc
20 June 2014 14:01:58






Be surprised if Suarez plays in a Liverpool shirt again, IMO he is off


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


In your opinion... or in your dreams?



 


Not saying you're wrong, but there's been nothing to suggest he wants to go. Liverpool have just shown him we have a team capable of competing for the title, are in the ECL proper for the coming season, and are investing heavily in the squad. I think only  RM or maybe Barca could tempt him away. And if RM came for him, they'd have to beat the Bale fee (and let us have some players, too!).


He only signed a new contract last season.


 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


He is off to Spain mate  and not for a holiday


I should add signing Lambert isnt investing heavily


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Yep, he'd slot in very nicely at Madrid.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


One paper today saying he's signing for Barca, with Sanchez coming the other way plus cash.


 


And we've signed Can, close to wrapping up Moreno, will likely sign Lallana & Lovren, possibly Shaqiri. That's about £80m worth.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


We're going gangbusters too. Dawson to be allowed to see out his contract and O'Shea brought in as a replacement.


I haven't been this excited in years.

haghir22
20 June 2014 16:31:51

(Hopes he's cursing them...)


Costa Rica looking by far the better side, a draw or Costa victory look far more likely at the mo......

YNWA
JHutch
20 June 2014 16:49:56

Ooops. Costa Rica 1-0 up just before half time with the goal-line technology helping

SEMerc
20 June 2014 16:50:32


(Hopes he's cursing them...)


Costa Rica looking by far the better side, a draw or Costa victory look far more likely at the mo......


Originally Posted by: haghir22 


LOL, Costa Rica win and then the Italians are fighting for their lives.


In fact, come to think of it if Costa Rica win it might be tempting for England to throw the final game just to increase the chances of watching Suarez cry.

Brian Gaze
20 June 2014 17:03:36
Woy confirmed staying until 2016.
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Saint Snow
20 June 2014 17:05:34


(Hopes he's cursing them...)


Costa Rica looking by far the better side, a draw or Costa victory look far more likely at the mo......


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


LOL, Costa Rica win and then the Italians are fighting for their lives.


In fact, come to think of it if Costa Rica win it might be tempting for England to throw the final game just to increase the chances of watching Suarez cry.

Originally Posted by: haghir22 




CR win and Uruguay only need to beat Italy in the last game...


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Saint Snow
20 June 2014 17:07:01

Woy confirmed staying until 2016.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 




Joy...

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SEMerc
20 June 2014 17:31:14



(Hopes he's cursing them...)


Costa Rica looking by far the better side, a draw or Costa victory look far more likely at the mo......


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


LOL, Costa Rica win and then the Italians are fighting for their lives.


In fact, come to think of it if Costa Rica win it might be tempting for England to throw the final game just to increase the chances of watching Suarez cry.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 




CR win and Uruguay only need to beat Italy in the last game...

Originally Posted by: haghir22 


Yes, but the Italians have to do the same. They'll be more up for front.

Medlock Vale Weather
20 June 2014 17:46:54

The Italians doing their darndest to knock England out, look like they don't want to play at all. Or is it just me? 


 

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Solar Cycles
20 June 2014 17:48:48

Woy confirmed staying until 2016.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

It matters not who manages us as the problem lies with the mediocre pool of talent available.

Essan
20 June 2014 17:49:36


The Italians doing their darndest to knock England out, look like they don't want to play at all. Or is it just me? 


 


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 



No one did better to knock England out than England.

Viva Costa Rica!

(English) football's coming home!


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Medlock Vale Weather
20 June 2014 17:52:13



The Italians doing their darndest to knock England out, look like they don't want to play at all. Or is it just me? 


 


Originally Posted by: Essan 



No one did better to knock England out than England.

Viva Costa Rica!

(English) football's coming home!



Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


True we are shi*e, no excuses there.

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SEMerc
20 June 2014 17:53:09

England out - a nation reacts. (well probably not)


Brian Gaze
20 June 2014 17:54:31

Woy confirmed staying until 2016.

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

It matters not who manages us as the problem lies with the mediocre pool of talent available.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 



True, but after Italy's performance against Costa Rica England's efforts look even more dire.
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Saint Snow
20 June 2014 17:54:39


Woy confirmed staying until 2016.

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

It matters not who manages us as the problem lies with the mediocre pool of talent available.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


The thing is, we see players who have looked distinctly average in the Premier League, being brilliant for their countries. Look at Costa Rica. Brian Ruiz has struggled at Fulham, Joel Campbell can't get into the Arsenal team and has been loaned out, yet they've looked stars for their country.


 


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Lumi-Ukko
20 June 2014 17:55:00

Woeful Italian performance, but credit where credit is due to Costa Rica. No-one gave them a cat in hells chance of making it to the second round (myself included), and here they are looking like they will go through as group winners (assuming head to head is the first tie breaker?).

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