Hi all,

Here's today's video update:

Fire Up The Jet Stream;

http://www.gavsweathervids.com

Signs of the Atlantic ramping up for late November.

 Agree. However, if I scroll back through this thread I can find plenty of examples of people stating x, y or z as a given. Speculating about the outlook is good fun and what this thread should be about. Trying to pass off unsubstantiated views as fact isn't. 

Quite true. The problem is the fear factor - years of experience tells us to expect the worst when it comes to the UK weather, which disappoints far more often than otherwise. Last winter was as awful as they come, hence the very real fear of a repetition - seeing the current setup, with the US once more in the firing line for cold and the UK being abused by the nasty, grey,miserable Atlantic, causes a horrid dread of the inevitability of dross to come to the fore, despite it only being mid November. 

We shall see. 

What a lot of people on here seem to forget is that a strong atlantic jet pushing lots of mild,moist air across the uk is

our default setting for most of the year,its normal!!

Periods of cold(below freezing,snow etc) together with blazing heat and blue skys,30c+ in summer are the EXCEPTION!!

If those who get suicidle if the models are not indicating sub zero temps and snow,why don`t you take your annual

holiday between now and March and go off to Scandinavia,Siberia,Canada.

Its no use moaning and clutching at the smallest of straws,the atlantic is what drives the uk`s climate 90% of the time.

Indeed, it also makes it all the more interesting and satisfying when we get those weather set ups. A bit like when you badly need a pi$$ and then you get that release. 

It would appear not according to this:

"2. OPI Index analisys

OPI index concluded at the end of October with a very low value, lower than the -2 threshold value. Specifically, this is the second lowest value ever registered since 1976, with the lowest being that of October 2009 (-3.3)."

http://app.til.it/opi/

But then what happens?

The models change overnight with a nudge on the Jet and you end up peeing down your trousers instead.

The feeling of release is dampend by a soaking wet leg

I've a link here from SC beginning of February 2014

but the storms began IIRC about 3rd of the way through Dec 2013

(Before that I remember in my part of the woods it had been mostly dry for quite a while.)

I'm sure of this cos I was hurrying up the customer to get an early start date.

Also this year I remember as soon as the month changed from August to September 2014 some mentioned "well that's it! Summer is

over!"

And look what happened, summer didn't end till about a week ago.

It would be of no surprise to me if a few weeks out the models flip and we get the Siberian express thundering in, to which IIRC We

haven't seen for quite a while...

We wait for people to moan/worry that their 30cm of snow is going to melt by 2cm 

You no, thats true!

Back in the 60's it was guaranteed you'd have snow every winter (well London area anyway) I remember waking up, looking out the window

So excited. It would be snowing heavy about 4" to 6" on the ground

Then Disappointment!!!

Snow stopped and a thaw would set in turning it all to slush Use to really peeve me off! 

Funny it was you and Medlock said summer was over in begining of September

Spot on Marcus, in fact better chance at seeing snow at easter than xmas plenty of time to change

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