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Brian Gaze
13 November 2014 18:42:16

I know there's next to no chance of this happening, but GEFS P10 throws what would possibly be a record breaking Spanish Plume towards the UK at the end of November.


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sizzle
13 November 2014 18:43:47


 


No scientific proof but just noticed it! (As I worked outside too) A slow decend into some freaky weather (1982 - ten feet of snow imby) This years summer has been about normal imby again. with some thunderstorms thrown in (For a change)


The winter months though


 


Originally Posted by: Osprey 

im a window cleaner and work in all weathers im hardcore, so yes i notice it year by year, 2010 i  was out of work for weeks on end cos of a good call by mr brian on the deep freeze. since then been pretty mild, and wet, but workable, sorry off topic.

SEMerc
13 November 2014 18:43:58


big changes on ecm can that ridge make it?


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=144&mode=1&map=1&type=0&archive=0


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Certainly less progressive than this morning. I still think that big low will eventually blast its way through though.

Osprey
13 November 2014 18:44:37


I know there's next to no chance of this happening, but GEFS P10 throws what would possibly be a record breaking Spanish Plume towards the UK at the end of November.



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


So it will happen then!

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sizzle
13 November 2014 18:46:03


I know there's next to no chance of this happening, but GEFS P10 throws what would possibly be a record breaking Spanish Plume towards the UK at the end of November.



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

suits me more dollers for xmas as i love working.  i gag cold and snow just for time off as i work all year with no holiday, cos im money greedy,,,work o holic

Polar Low
13 November 2014 18:49:16

its not done something in that chart that is not shown and very hard to model to handle and thats in our little bit


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=144&mode=1&map=3&type=0&archive=0


 


 


 


 



 


Thats the trouble with you coldies, you're all too eager for change and ya give anything really cold the kiss of death!


Please keep doing this!


Originally Posted by: Osprey 

Osprey
13 November 2014 18:52:53

On the long range CFS 702h (A month) looks promising FI

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sizzle
13 November 2014 18:54:35
coldies will have last laugh. they who laugh last laugh longest OSPREY .
Osprey
13 November 2014 18:56:54

coldies will have last laugh. they who laugh last laugh longest OSPREY .

Originally Posted by: sizzle 


Well I suppose they have to win out one year!

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sizzle
13 November 2014 18:59:17


 


Well I suppose they have to win out one year!


Originally Posted by: Osprey 

YEP i didnt say this year tho but hey one year it will be cold all the way, 2010 repeat but worse, lmao, thanks buddy,

Osprey
13 November 2014 19:04:51


YEP i didnt say this year tho but hey one year it will be cold all the way, 2010 repeat but worse, lmao, thanks buddy,


Originally Posted by: sizzle 


Aye! like the winter of 1947/48


Winter

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sizzle
13 November 2014 19:06:44


 


Aye! like the winter of 1947/48


Winter


Originally Posted by: Osprey 

lmao dam yeah just like that. but worse, tho a dust of snow where i am the buses come to a stand still lol but yeah be nice to see them good old days of real winter, our winters now days are just GAY, lol.  very sorry for off topic.

Osprey
13 November 2014 19:16:46


lmao dam yeah just like that. but worse, tho a dust of snow where i am the buses come to a stand still lol but yeah be nice to see them good old days of real winter, our winters now days are just GAY, lol.  very sorry for off topic.


Originally Posted by: sizzle 


That easterly powder snow gets eveywhere worst is in the attic 


Matt or SC will tell us to shut the * up and stick to the models, even though there's nothing exciting on the horizon yet!


Though imo this is typical autumn weather just a tad warmer!


 

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sizzle
13 November 2014 19:29:08


 


That easterly powder snow gets eveywhere worst is in the attic 


Matt or SC will tell us to shut the * up and stick to the models, even though there's nothing exciting on the horizon yet!


Though imo this is typical autumn weather just a tad warmer!


 


Originally Posted by: Osprey 

yep fully agreed dont know why we are crying about this weather as its typical autumn weather winter not started yet so all to play for, me thinks SO WATCH THIS SPACE

LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
13 November 2014 19:38:16

Seeing how Similar The USA, North Atlantic and Europe Weather Pattern has that it actually is similar to last December Winter 2013-14.


The Areas of High Pressure and Low Pressure look similar to what it was like in 14-23 December last year, just a month earlier.


With -20 to -35 even as low as -40 deg. Mean Temps in Central NW USA, Arctic Central spread South West SE And SW and similar Central Russia and Siberia Cold Pool - less in Central Russia but more especially E Russia and Siberia.


Very Cold Polar Vortex, allowing West SE and West to East short track length areas of PV Low's in Northeast Pacific and Around Arctic Out at 60-90 deg N in General with Arctic High established North Russia and Siberia North Cold Arctic Winter Low Pressure Systems that are maintaining Vortex Polar Airflow as they move around Visciously...


Get Ready Northeast and N plus Central USA you in next 72 hours have A very Arctic Polar Winter Snow and Severe Cold weather on the way.😏


 

Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Ally Pally Snowman
13 November 2014 19:43:18

Nice Looking day 10 chart from the ECM tonight. Might be leading us up the garden path again or could be onto something. Split vortex by day 10


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.html

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sizzle
13 November 2014 19:46:33

well looking for cold this month is a write off. eyes on december. fingers crossed.

Osprey
13 November 2014 19:47:48


Seeing how Similar The USA, North Atlantic and Europe Weather Pattern has that it actually is similar to last December Winter 2013-14.


The Areas of High Pressure and Low Pressure look similar to what it was like in 14-23 December last year, just a month earlier.


With -20 to -35 even as low as -40 deg. Mean Temps in Central NW USA, Arctic Central spread South West SE And SW and similar Central Russia and Siberia Cold Pool - less in Central Russia but more especially E Russia and Siberia.


Very Cold Polar Vortex, allowing West SE and West to East short track length areas of PV Low's in Northeast Pacific and Around Arctic Out at 60-90 deg N in General with Arctic High established North Russia and Siberia North Cold Arctic Winter Low Pressure Systems that are maintaining Vortex Polar Airflow as they move around Visciously...


 


 

Originally Posted by: LA2B MeridFlowEuro09 


Yes I thought that!


There was a LP off the NE side of the States last year plus (Not sure on this) was it also being jet stream fed from a storm in the north


Pacific that was near China Japan?

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Matty H
13 November 2014 20:06:03


 


That easterly powder snow gets eveywhere worst is in the attic 


Matt or SC will tell us to shut the * up and stick to the models, even though there's nothing exciting on the horizon yet!


Though imo this is typical autumn weather just a tad warmer!


 


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


Theres only so many times you can say the outlook is wet, windy and mild. Hopefully every week for the next three months 

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White Meadows
13 November 2014 20:28:09


Nice Looking day 10 chart from the ECM tonight. Might be leading us up the garden path again or could be onto something. Split vortex by day 10


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.html


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


looks pretty mundane to me?? Look at the jet!

sizzle
13 November 2014 20:29:06


 


Theres only so many times you can say the outlook is wet, windy and mild. Hopefully every week for the next three months 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 

killjoy wink

LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
13 November 2014 20:30:44


 


Yes I thought that!


There was a LP off the NE side of the States last year plus (Not sure on this) was it also being jet stream fed from a storm in the north


Pacific that was near China Japan?


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


 


Yes all that is what I Observed Last Year, this weather pattern needs no joking but playing seriously about the Big North Pacific North Atlantic, Around the Arctic Centre and over the Big Northern Hemisphere Continents- Sharp Slide in NE USA and the Siberia and Greenland as well as NW and N NE Norwegian Sea all with Low P. Vortex and Strong Level Mid Lattitudes Low P Conveyor belt with A Polar Arctic Express for Canada and the USA Central and East NE USA.

Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Osprey
13 November 2014 20:52:29


 


 


Yes all that is what I Observed Last Year, this weather pattern needs no joking but playing seriously about the Big North Pacific North Atlantic, Around the Arctic Centre and over the Big Northern Hemisphere Continents- Sharp Slide in NE USA and the Siberia and Greenland as well as NW and N NE Norwegian Sea all with Low P. Vortex and Strong Level Mid Lattitudes Low P Conveyor belt with A Polar Arctic Express for Canada and the USA Central and East NE USA.


Originally Posted by: LA2B MeridFlowEuro09 


Oh I do hope we don't get the same, I'm fed up with rebuilding fences..


If it's a repeat (Although I have my doubts), on the plus side it may follow through to another good summer (and more thunder next year)

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yorkshirelad89
13 November 2014 20:58:05


 


looks pretty mundane to me?? Look at the jet!


Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


The ECM run would be good for here in Southampton, too many cyclonic days recently and excess rain. If subsequent charts were available then I think a large Scandi high would build with cold air starting to accumulate in NE Europe.


At this point in time mild and dry is the best thing with the ECM run looking much drier then recent times, the cold can come later 

Hull
Polar Low
13 November 2014 21:23:15

just noticed gfs  parallel now on wetter


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsgfseur.html


all so thinking prx is the Parallel  on model statistics.


correct me if im wrong.


 


 


 

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