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Ally Pally Snowman
14 January 2015 10:17:52


More from Ian Fergusson on NW. 


E.g. re PPN details Sunday; re E'wd extent of frontal progression Mon-Tues; re threat of cut-off to S leading to more pronounced E-NE solution...rapid occluding of any warm sectors in Atlantic lows expected, with 522/sub-522dam air prevailing, with attendant awkward forecast period re wintry risks.


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kmoorman
14 January 2015 10:19:52



More from Ian Ferguson on NW. 


E.g. re PPN details Sunday; re E'wd extent of frontal progression Mon-Tues; re threat of cut-off to S leading to more pronounced E-NE solution...rapid occluding of any warm sectors in Atlantic lows expected, with 522/sub-522dam air prevailing, with attendant awkward forecast period re wintry risks.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


So, that = good news 


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Rob K
14 January 2015 10:22:46


 


 


GFSP would suffice though Rob


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Blimey, hadn't looked at GFSP yet. That's a bit fresh.


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Ally Pally Snowman
14 January 2015 10:25:06


 


 


So, that = good news 


Originally Posted by: kmoorman 


 


Indeed Saturday night is the first chance for most with the ecm the right side of marginal this morning.


 


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Rob K
14 January 2015 10:27:56



More from Ian Ferguson on NW. 


E.g. re PPN details Sunday; re E'wd extent of frontal progression Mon-Tues; re threat of cut-off to S leading to more pronounced E-NE solution...rapid occluding of any warm sectors in Atlantic lows expected, with 522/sub-522dam air prevailing, with attendant awkward forecast period re wintry risks.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


That is good stuff. Bad news for forecasters but good news for a second bite at the (glacé) cherry for those who missed out this time.


BTW I know I'm a pedant but can we do Ian the favour of spelling his name right? It's Fergusson with a double s. 


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kmoorman
14 January 2015 10:34:23


 


 


Indeed Saturday night is the first chance for most with the ecm the right side of marginal this morning.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Being so close to the south coast I still worry about the marginal nature of all of this.  But that's far too IMBY.  The trend is still good overall.


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Rob K
14 January 2015 10:37:03

06Z GFS has an interesting feature crossing the SE on Sunday night. Marginal but could deliver:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs1143.gif


 


Then temps struggling to go positive for many areas on Monday


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs1294.gif


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Polar Low
14 January 2015 10:41:05

The lower temperatures towards the west are in all probability to the snow fields around Mattys house of course reflective heat in full action But not much going on towards the Chelmsford area as usual.  


 



 


 


Blimey, hadn't looked at GFSP yet. That's a bit fresh.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rpgfs24017.gif


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Rob K
14 January 2015 10:42:03

06Z GFS looks pretty messy. But in a good way.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1681.gif


 


Then that low trots off to the south and brings in an easterly. "Textbook", as Alan Partridge would say. 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1921.gif


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kmoorman
14 January 2015 10:47:03


06Z GFS looks pretty messy. But in a good way.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1681.gif


 


Then that low trots off to the south and brings in an easterly. "Textbook", as Alan Partridge would say. 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1921.gif


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Oddly on this run the upper temps being dragged into SE England are rather high, the 204 chart shows - forecast as rain :(


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=204&mode=1


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Ally Pally Snowman
14 January 2015 10:53:27


 


 


Being so close to the south coast I still worry about the marginal nature of all of this.  But that's far too IMBY.  The trend is still good overall.


Originally Posted by: kmoorman 


Yes grew up in West Sussex Billingshurst area and it was more often than not the wrong side of marginal in the 90s anyway. But West Sussex has had a couple of good snow events this decade so you never know.


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tallyho_83
14 January 2015 10:54:37


Some cold nights coming up next week - esp over Scotland -13c


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kmoorman
14 January 2015 10:56:13


 


Yes grew up in West Sussex Billingshurst area and it was more often than not the wrong side of marginal in the 90s anyway. But West Sussex has had a couple of good snow events this decade so you never know.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Oh don't get me wrong - other than last year (and this year so far) this decade has been great for snow down here.   I'm just wary of getting too excited whilst the overall picture is marginal - being down here, unless it's a screaming NE wind, we're always at risk of being the wrong side of the line.   At least we've got the downs to help 


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Ally Pally Snowman
14 January 2015 10:56:25


 


That is good stuff. Bad news for forecasters but good news for a second bite at the (glacé) cherry for those who missed out this time.


BTW I know I'm a pedant but can we do Ian the favour of spelling his name right? It's Fergusson with a double s. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Yes my mistake corrected. To have a Meto Pro on these forums is incredibly worthwhile especially at a time like this.


 


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Brian Gaze
14 January 2015 10:56:29

That was probably the last ever run of the still current GFS model. Agree with the comments that it was quite cold and messy, and fits in well with the generally expected picture for next week. 


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kmoorman
14 January 2015 11:03:58


That was probably the last ever run of the still current GFS model. Agree with the comments that it was quite cold and messy, and fits in well with the generally expected picture for next week. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


Yep - one of those setups which could either deliver some incredible snow (with the borderline temps and extra moisture in the mix) or cold rain.  It'll hinge on very small daily variations in conditions.  Fascinating to watch - a nightmare to forecast.


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Gavin P
14 January 2015 11:12:01


That was probably the last ever run of the still current GFS model. Agree with the comments that it was quite cold and messy, and fits in well with the generally expected picture for next week. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


What a way for the OP to go out!


Will the Parallel take over as the Op from the 12z?


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Gusty
14 January 2015 11:14:34

These features moving down from the north in ambient cold makes for an incredibly interesting period of weather. I can understand some of the caution from the immediate south coast crew, any SW'ly onshore drift ahead of the systems can tip things the rainy side of marginal at times.


The key is to avoid the weak warm sectors, eastern half of the UK currently look best placed.


I think there is a lot to optimistic about here. Snow fell here this morning above 100 metres with a fresh SW'ly wind off the channel in 524dam air with 850Hpa's of -5c and 925Hpa's of +1c.


This weekends parameters look a tad colder than this with less maritime influence.


The biggest snowfalls are the marginal ones.


Longer term the option of the easterly is still there for the SE to get excited about. cool


 


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Saint Snow
14 January 2015 11:19:08

If the GFSP 6z is accurate, MBY will have snow cover from Friday night through to the end of the run, with parts of lowland NW England having 20cm+



 


T+66


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/gfs25/2015/01/14/basis06/ukuk/weas/15011700_1406.gif


T+198 (the peak, and a thing of beauty )


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/gfs25/2015/01/13/basis18/ukuk/weas/15012212_1318.gif


T+360


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/gfs25/2015/01/13/basis06/ukuk/weas/15012906_1306.gif


 


Pity that won't happen, but nice eye-candy, and it is a consistent theme from the GFSP over the past few runs


 



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Russwirral
14 January 2015 11:39:15

Remarkable consistency for the next 7 days from the GEFS:


 


Its been a while since we had such tight packed members for so far into the future.


 


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Solar Cycles
14 January 2015 12:08:25


If the GFSP 6z is accurate, MBY will have snow cover from Friday night through to the end of the run, with parts of lowland NW England having 20cm+



 


T+66


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/gfs25/2015/01/14/basis06/ukuk/weas/15011700_1406.gif


T+198 (the peak, and a thing of beauty )


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/gfs25/2015/01/13/basis18/ukuk/weas/15012212_1318.gif


T+360


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/gfs25/2015/01/13/basis06/ukuk/weas/15012906_1306.gif


 


Pity that won't happen, but nice eye-candy, and it is a consistent theme from the GFSP over the past few runs


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

We need to be negative more often Saint.

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14 January 2015 12:32:18
Well you're going to have a white week(end) starting friday a.m.

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roger63
14 January 2015 12:41:10


Remarkable consistency for the next 7 days from the GEFS:


 


Its been a while since we had such tight packed members for so far into the future.


 


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Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


Looks good out to 168h.Strohg showing of Scandi /Iceland HP ens,plus a couple of cold Mid Atlantic HP.This give roughly a 50:50 split of cold:warm Ens.


After that its downhill with 75% of ENS at 240h being Atlantic driven rising to 80% at 360h.


So best to enjoy the 7 cold days approaching!

Gooner
14 January 2015 12:46:06

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2015/01/14/basis06/ukuk/rart/15012012_2_1406.gif


Snow moves into the NW on Tuesday


 


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2015/01/14/basis06/ukuk/rart/15012018_2_1406.gif


Across into England


 


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2015/01/14/basis06/ukuk/rart/15012100_2_1406.gif


Down into the SE


 


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2015/01/14/basis06/ukuk/rart/15012106_2_1406.gif


Another area comes in from the West


 


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2015/01/14/basis06/ukuk/rart/15012112_2_1406.gif


Moves across England


 


 


 


 


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Gooner
14 January 2015 12:47:09


 


Looks good out to 168h.Strohg showing of Scandi /Iceland HP ens,plus a couple of cold Mid Atlantic HP.This give roughly a 50:50 split of cold:warm Ens.


After that its downhill with 75% of ENS at 240h being Atlantic driven rising to 80% at 360h.


So best to enjoy the 7 cold days approaching!


Originally Posted by: roger63 


Of course depending if GFS is correct


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