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TimS
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13 July 2015 10:39:10

The UK weather may have settled down into something typically British, but across the channel the exceptional start to summer continues. Two things I'd like to share with you:


Eastern France so far this July: 7C above average. Current forecasts showing the month beating July 2003 and getting close to August 2003 in some regions. This article discusses the return of the "canicule" (literally, dog days) this week


http://www.bienpublic.com/environnement/2015/07/12/vers-un-nouvel-episode-caniculaire-en-fin-de-semaine


And Spain so far this year has had a season more like the surface of Venus than this earth. Possibly up to 47C in Andalusia this week, and one Navgem run last week (I know, I know) had the far SW touching 50. Another article In French I'm afraid:


http://actualite.lachainemeteo.com/actualite-meteo/2015-07-13-11h47/espagne---45-c--vers-une-canicule-historique---28410.php


 


I would love to post English language articles but sadly the British media only notices Europe if people are dying of heat or it's also hot over here. French weather journalism is streets ahead of our sorry media.


 


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Jiries
13 July 2015 11:02:27

They had been very lucky this year while we lost out the potential heat and still get denied access to prolong hot spells here only living off crumbs and even on 1st July was rubbish due to being too short and not enough time to experience it, plus the few hour clouds damaged the potential higher temps. 


Agreed the media too as the always look for negative side instead of positive side for hot weather that many tourists WANT for their holidays. 

speckledjim
13 July 2015 16:03:11


The UK weather may have settled down into something typically British, but across the channel the exceptional start to summer continues. Two things I'd like to share with you:


Eastern France so far this July: 7C above average. Current forecasts showing the month beating July 2003 and getting close to August 2003 in some regions. This article discusses the return of the "canicule" (literally, dog days) this week


http://www.bienpublic.com/environnement/2015/07/12/vers-un-nouvel-episode-caniculaire-en-fin-de-semaine


And Spain so far this year has had a season more like the surface of Venus than this earth. Possibly up to 47C in Andalusia this week, and one Navgem run last week (I know, I know) had the far SW touching 50. Another article In French I'm afraid:


http://actualite.lachainemeteo.com/actualite-meteo/2015-07-13-11h47/espagne---45-c--vers-une-canicule-historique---28410.php


 


I would love to post English language articles but sadly the British media only notices Europe if people are dying of heat or it's also hot over here. French weather journalism is streets ahead of our sorry media.


 


Originally Posted by: TimS 


I'm sure they don't have idiots like Nathan Rao and James Madden to contend with.....


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Whether Idle
13 July 2015 16:47:10

I think the heat will ooze northwards to the SE of UK with time over the next week.


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Brendon Hills Bandit
13 July 2015 19:08:00
Love the way a heatwave seems to be widely called 'canicule' or 'caniculaire' in France, i.e. dog days as mentioned.

Some of you in here may know this but the phrase 'dog days' was created by the Romans, to describe the hottest days and nights of summer. The reason why they were called the dog days was because the star Sirius was prominent in the night sky at that time of year. Sirius is also know as the 'Dog star' , being in the constellation Canis major, and is the brightest star in the night sky, and the Romans actually believed that the heat coming from Sirius made the days and nights hotter here on Earth.
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Stormchaser
13 July 2015 19:33:31

If ever the westerlies relax in the right place at the right time this month, we could find ourselves in some serious trouble.


Amazing to think that I was banging on about the risk of a serious European heatwave back in late April/early May, based largely on there being a lot of significant positive SST anomalies in the western Med. and far-eastern N. Atlantic.


As it happens, unusually dry spring conditions across many parts of NW Europe have also played a role - something that I didn't give much thought to several months back.


 


Remarkable that the Romans believed stars to hold such power. At least they had them down as very hot objects which is very much the case 


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Devonian
13 July 2015 20:33:40


The UK weather may have settled down into something typically British, but across the channel the exceptional start to summer continues. Two things I'd like to share with you:


Eastern France so far this July: 7C above average. Current forecasts showing the month beating July 2003 and getting close to August 2003 in some regions. This article discusses the return of the "canicule" (literally, dog days) this week


http://www.bienpublic.com/environnement/2015/07/12/vers-un-nouvel-episode-caniculaire-en-fin-de-semaine


And Spain so far this year has had a season more like the surface of Venus than this earth. Possibly up to 47C in Andalusia this week, and one Navgem run last week (I know, I know) had the far SW touching 50. Another article In French I'm afraid:


http://actualite.lachainemeteo.com/actualite-meteo/2015-07-13-11h47/espagne---45-c--vers-une-canicule-historique---28410.php


 


I would love to post English language articles but sadly the British media only notices Europe if people are dying of heat or it's also hot over here. French weather journalism is streets ahead of our sorry media.


 


Originally Posted by: TimS 


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15 July 2015 15:28:29
The re-heating is now up and running, especially in Eastern France and Switzerland. 34C at Bourg St Maurice in the Alps probably the most notable, but widely 34-36C and it reached 37C in a number of French locations yesterday. 34C at Sion in the Valais too.

Meanwhile the real heat builds further South. 42C so far today in Moron, 41C in Jerez and Toledo. Expected to climb sharply in the next 48 hours.

Today's 06z GFS, if it came off, would give temperatures above 35C in parts of France non-stop between now and the end of next week.
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TimS
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16 July 2015 20:47:27

44C at Córdoba today, and the "mini heatwave" is peaking in France: 41C at Brive in the South West, 40C at Agen, Vichy and Gourdon, 39C at 7 French stations and a creditable 38C just over the border in Geneva. Large swathes of France were in the high 30s today and the centre-east is expected to repeat this tomorrow.


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Jiries
16 July 2015 23:23:53


44C at Córdoba today, and the "mini heatwave" is peaking in France: 41C at Brive in the South West, 40C at Agen, Vichy and Gourdon, 39C at 7 French stations and a creditable 38C just over the border in Geneva. Large swathes of France were in the high 30s today and the centre-east is expected to repeat this tomorrow.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Very lucky for them to enjoy record heat while we miss out here and the case of whole summer so far bar from 1st July. Surely we are overdue for some real heat to come further north and nationwide again very soon before time run out as the continent will start cooling down by mid August.

Gusty
17 July 2015 14:28:27

It is a shame that this extra-ordinary heat is not having more of an affect on the UK.


Being here in the extreme SE of Kent there is some minor repurcussions of this. Locally the temperature has not fallen below 16c at any time for over a week now.


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manofponty
18 July 2015 05:38:52

Temps of 40C plus?  No thanks.  Our continental cousins are very welcome to that sort of heat.

Jiries
18 July 2015 06:18:00


Temps of 40C plus?  No thanks.  Our continental cousins are very welcome to that sort of heat.


Originally Posted by: manofponty 


While here we welcome 32-34C heat which is the normal maxes for a hot spell and we haven't got those heat yet except 1st July.

future_is_orange
18 July 2015 06:25:33


It is a shame that this extra-ordinary heat is not having more of an affect on the UK.


Being here in the extreme SE of Kent there is some minor repurcussions of this. Locally the temperature has not fallen below 16c at any time for over a week now.


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


 


We have struggled to get above 16c.....totally foul !

doctormog
18 July 2015 06:44:15


 


While here we welcome 32-34C heat which is the normal maxes for a hot spell and we haven't got those heat yet except 1st July.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


The July record was broken - that in itself is noteworthy!


Just be grateful that your town/city has not been flooded 3 times this month (so far). Summer 2015 is not one that will be remembered positively in terms of weather for quite a few northern parts. 


Jiries
18 July 2015 06:56:56


 


The July record was broken - that in itself is noteworthy!


Just be grateful that your town/city has not been flooded 3 timely his month (so far). Summer 2015 is not one that will be remembered positively in terms of weather for quite a few northern parts. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


It was too quick on that day so it long forgotten now as ones in July 2006 still remember freshly as they took it time to reach 36.5C then slowly back down with lot of decent days.  Just viewed the pictures of the flooding in Cambridge yesterday morning and some businesses suffered from that.

Brian Gaze
18 July 2015 07:20:22
I'm on my way back home from L'Isle-sur-la-Sorgue where I've been for most of the last 2 weeks. It hasn't felt much hotter here than usual regardless of the stats. I expect the bigger temperature anomaly is farther north. Day time maxes must have been ranging between 34C to 40C. Glorious and hardly a cloud to be seen.
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bledur
18 July 2015 19:55:07

[quote=Brian Gaze;709537]I'm on my way back home from L'Isle-sur-la-Sorgue where I've been for most of the last 2 weeks. It hasn't felt much hotter here than usual regardless of the stats. I expect the bigger temperature anomaly is farther north. Day time maxes must have been ranging between 34C to 40C. Glorious and hardly a cloud to be seen.[/quote


 Just looked that place up ,looks very nice. There is some lovely countryside in France.

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05 August 2015 20:50:33
The heat is back on in France. 39C in Brive today, 38C in several places across the South and SW, and forecast maxes tomorrow and Friday of 37C+ across much of the centre of the country. Friday in particular could see us hit 40C somewhere in the Centre-Est.

Cooler for a while over the weekend (down to a chilly 30C in many parts) then widely back up into the mid-high 30s from next Tuesday until at least the end of the working week.

Meanwhile if we're lucky somewhere in South East England might sneak a 28C. This is the summer equivalent of -25C uppers gathering across the Scandinavia while the mild Atlantic keep piling over us.

Without wishing the revive the brown grass thread just yet, France is parched at level 3 or 4 right up to just north of Reims.
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07 August 2015 06:27:00
My neck of the woods was the hotspot yesterday. 38C in Lyon, Macon and 5 other locations. Tomorrow should be the peak in the same region.

Next week now looking a bit more unsettled and cooler (but still widely in the 30s).
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Jiries
07 August 2015 07:50:54

My neck of the woods was the hotspot yesterday. 38C in Lyon, Macon and 5 other locations. Tomorrow should be the peak in the same region.

Next week now looking a bit more unsettled and cooler (but still widely in the 30s).

Originally Posted by: TimS 


It a really shame that UK had miss out a potential good summer and never seen a summer that EU enjoying the heat while UK the only place in N Hemisphere had got nothing at all so far bar the poor performance on 1st July for being too short.  

Hungry Tiger
07 August 2015 09:58:22

I think here in the UK this summer will go down as the "unfair summer".


 


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nouska
07 August 2015 12:33:21

It's a baked landscape down here with severe water restrictions now in force. Hopefully this will fill up the ponds and give nature a much needed drink.



 


 

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07 August 2015 18:17:09

39C in a number of places along the Saone Valley and Lyonnais today. Sadly nowhere seems to have hit the magical 40.

And that's now looking like the swansong for the French heatwave and maybe also for the secheresse. Copious if amounts of rain and much cooler temperatures (relatively) the next few days as that "degradation pluvio-orageuse" sets in.

That's right, TWO unfair summer moaners: the French heatwave and drought is about to break with two days of spectacular thunderstorms. Anyone fancy emigrating? Because it's posdible, you know. EU membership means you can do it without having to cut barbed wire fences or walk through the Chunnel. The weather of your dreams is a short drive away. Just no jobs, unfortunately.


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LeedsLad123
07 August 2015 19:01:06

I don't think 39C is the weather of anyone's dreams, unless you're a baked potato. I think I'll keep the weather we have here over the dangerous heat they have in Central Europe.


 


I know that a heatwave would be at least interesting, but do people on here really think of 36-39C as pleasant? I find that hard to believe. I just don't see the need for such excessively high temperatures.

Those thunderstorms do look interesting though!


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