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Bertwhistle
06 December 2015 18:53:28


 


Wow!


 


That's incredible


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


It is- and although the Martinstown July 1955 event has been pipped more than once, it will still be as incredible, because of its S. England lowland location.


Not taking anything away from the trauma that the folk in the NW are undergoing of course; I hope they maintain the resolve and community spirit that has helped them through this kind of grief before. Good luck to you all- our thoughts are with you.


Edit: a look at those amazing pictures suggest that the storm does merit a name (another thread I know)- folklore requires it! Otherwise we're saying these storms aren't as important as the Atlantic hurricanes and tropical storms- which (please correct me if I'm wrong) don't all cause damage to land.

Bertie, Itchen Valley.
Retire while you can still press the 'retire now' button.
Hungry Tiger
06 December 2015 20:26:14


 


 


Thanks. Books and valuables staying moved until we see what happens tomorrow night.  More rain expected, so could be in for round two


Originally Posted by: Bagfish 


Phew - thanks for those amazing pictures. Looks much worse than 2009. I am surprised a state of emergency hasn't been declared. That will cost a real wedge to put right. 

Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


tinybill
06 December 2015 20:38:48
radar saying more rain there in about 3-4 hours time something they don't need
doctormog
06 December 2015 20:42:37
Incredible photos of the A951. We have driven along that road many times and to see it like that is amazing and very sad.

I think/hope that the next spell of rain may not be enough o cause a repeat of the last 36 hours.

Gavin, Cumbria did declare a major emergency yesterday. Let's hope that they get as much assistance and support as possible in the coming weeks and months.
Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
Whether Idle
06 December 2015 21:08:29


 


Yes, thank you for that party political broadcast by the Green party.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


I'm not political, just hoping people can see what's happening in front of their eyes rather than burying their heads in the sand.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
John Mason
06 December 2015 21:26:15
You have my sympathy, WI!
bradders
06 December 2015 22:43:28

Everyone affected by the flooding has my sympathy as well. It`s amazing how much rain has fallen in the area. 


 


Eric. Cheadle Hulme, Stockport.
Saint Snow
06 December 2015 22:49:06


NExt photos were taken by a guy called Matt Hardcastle who saw Pooley Bridge on a main road in and out of the Ullswater Valley collapse in front of his eyes. Please credit Matt if you use his photos https://www.facebook.com/mat.c.hardcastle


Originally Posted by: Bagfish 


 



 


I've been over that bridge at Pooley Bridge a few times. Very sad. Driven the a591 more times than I can remember - don't know how the hell people are going to cope with this road being closed for any length of time; a massive diversion required to get from S-N/N-S.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Solar Cycles
06 December 2015 23:30:45


 The Mayor of Keswick Paul Titley tells BBC News water levels are the highest he's ever seen.


 


"The flood defences were designed for a one in 100 year event and since it's six years since we had the last one, we were sort of surprised that we got one so soon. I think they did work but they were just completely overwhelmed by just the sheer amount of rainwater we had. The river was 5.4 metres above ground this year. In 2009 it was 4.6 metres. And 4.6 metres had sat there as the target that we never wanted to breach again."


Pity the poor mayor.


 


I think the government and its agencies need to wake up and smell the coffee.  A changing climate brings changing extreme weather events.  Build those defences higher.  They need to be thinking 1 in 500 year event based on past data.


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

FFS.🔫

Perthite1
07 December 2015 13:25:07
Some very sobering images. A beautiful part of the World and I feel for everyone affected.
sunny coast
07 December 2015 14:00:58

John Hammond confirmed lunchtime that the 24 hour rainfall record had been broken  not sure precise location but no doubt somewhere at the head of Borrowdale like Seathwaite

Dougie
07 December 2015 15:11:36

The Met Office says Storm Desmond has broken two rainfall records. As well as the 24-hour record, it's also expected to set a new bar for the amount of rain falling in 48 hours.


There were 405mm of rain recorded at Thirlmere in the 38 hours to 08:00 GMT on 6 December.The Met Office currently doesn't have the full 48-hour data but expects that the total could be sightly higher than 405mm.


The previous record was 395.6mm. which fell at Seathwaite, Cumbria, on November 18 and 19 2009. 


The 24hr record now stands at 341.4mm, and maybe this was also at Thirlmere.

Ha'way the lads
Charmhills
07 December 2015 17:05:36

New rainfall record for a 24-hour period was broken at the weekend with 341.4mm recorded at Honister Pass


https://twitter.com/metoffice


Impressive.

Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
John Mason
07 December 2015 17:09:50
Had Honister not recorded such extraordinary rainfall, Thirlmere would have grabbed the 24 hour record: it had 322.6mm over the 24 hour period.
Whether Idle
07 December 2015 18:42:34

 


FFS.🔫


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


Which part of record maximum for July 2015, record maximum , record maximum for November 2015 don't you understand?


Which part of April 2011: warmest on record ;November 2015 3rd warmest on record; November 2011 second warmest on record; January- February 2014 - the wettest such period on record for England and Wales; 2014 : joint 8th warmest April on record; 2014; spring 2014 was the 5th warmest spring on record for the CET;  don't you get?


Cut out the denial, and start living in reality where our climate is warming and getting wetter, pretty much in line with climate modelling.


 

Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Arcus
07 December 2015 18:50:22
Incredible to see a waterfall at Malham Cove for the first time in living memory:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-35026529 
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Solar Cycles
07 December 2015 18:50:25


 


Which part of record maximum for July 2015, record maximum , record maximum for November 2015 don't you understand?


Which part of April 2011: warmest on record ;November 2015 3rd warmest on record; November 2011 second warmest on record; January- February 2014 - the wettest such period on record for England and Wales; 2014 : joint 8th warmest April on record; 2014; spring 2014 was the 5th warmest spring on record for the CET;  don't you get?


Cut out the denial, and start living in reality where our climate is warming and getting wetter, pretty much in line with climate modelling.


 


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

For starters this isn't the place for such nonsense and secondly there is no evidence we are despite the above and secondly it's no proof on being human induced. Now can we get back to what this thread is about which isn't pedalling agendas either way.

Whether Idle
07 December 2015 18:56:20


For starters this isn't the place for such nonsense and secondly there is no evidence we are despite the above and secondly it's no proof on being human induced. Now can we get back to what this thread is about which isn't pedalling agendas either way.


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


I'm not saying its human induced.  You start using abbreviated swear words to express your consternation that I had the gall to state the bleeding obvious.  Get over yourself.

Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
idj20
07 December 2015 18:58:25


The Met Office says Storm Desmond has broken two rainfall records. As well as the 24-hour record, it's also expected to set a new bar for the amount of rain falling in 48 hours.


There were 405mm of rain recorded at Thirlmere in the 38 hours to 08:00 GMT on 6 December.The Met Office currently doesn't have the full 48-hour data but expects that the total could be sightly higher than 405mm.


The previous record was 395.6mm. which fell at Seathwaite, Cumbria, on November 18 and 19 2009. 


The 24hr record now stands at 341.4mm, and maybe this was also at Thirlmere.


Originally Posted by: Dougie 



I've been quietly lurking in this thread as I really can't add to what has been said in here. Those rainfall totals are nothing short of astounding, my south Kent location couldn't even manage that in a 12 months period some years, never mind in a single day!

It's going to be quite a while before normality does resume to that part of the world.

Folkestone Harbour. 
Solar Cycles
07 December 2015 19:00:07


 


I'm not saying its human induced.  You start using abbreviated swear words to express your consternation that I had the gall to state the bleeding obvious.  Get over yourself.


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

Fine lets draw a line under it then and get back on track.

moomin75
07 December 2015 19:00:21


For starters this isn't the place for such nonsense and secondly there is no evidence we are despite the above and secondly it's no proof on being human induced. Now can we get back to what this thread is about which isn't pedalling agendas either way.


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

Trouble is SC that many people are being brainwashed by media/government/local authorities and the like that this is a matter of fact. The likelihood remains as far as most rational people are concerned that we are in a phase of natural environmental variation. I just don't buy the claptrap being spouted and that isn't being in denial. AGW is seemingly to blame for everything in our climate now. Gives Governments the perfect opportunity to raise taxes in the guise of going green.

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Hungry Tiger
07 December 2015 19:34:42


 


Which part of record maximum for July 2015, record maximum , record maximum for November 2015 don't you understand?


Which part of April 2011: warmest on record ;November 2015 3rd warmest on record; November 2011 second warmest on record; January- February 2014 - the wettest such period on record for England and Wales; 2014 : joint 8th warmest April on record; 2014; spring 2014 was the 5th warmest spring on record for the CET;  don't you get?


Cut out the denial, and start living in reality where our climate is warming and getting wetter, pretty much in line with climate modelling.


 


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Come off it - keep the political nonsense out of this discussion. :-(


 

Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


squish
07 December 2015 19:39:33
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs22214.gif 

not going to dry out much over next 8-10 days according to GFS 12z
D.E.W on Dartmoor. 300m asl
moomin75
07 December 2015 19:50:34

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs22214.gif

not going to dry out much over next 8-10 days according to GFS 12z

Originally Posted by: squish 

Oh crikey that's a horrible prospect for our friends in the north west. They would not be able to cope with that amount surely.

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Whether Idle
07 December 2015 19:53:42

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs22214.gif

not going to dry out much over next 8-10 days according to GFS 12z

Originally Posted by: squish 


Here is a different view.  Not looking good for Cumbria sadly...


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.

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