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David M Porter
31 December 2015 19:46:50

A new thread in time for the arrival of 2016.


To start off I thought I'd quote Bertwhistle's post from the end of the last thread, sounds potentially interesting.



 


Quickly then - just seen Louise Lear's outlook for the week; alluded to cold but didn't emphasise record warmth of Dec- only rainfall. Talked about the blocking high coming into play and splitting jet stream.


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


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Maunder Minimum
31 December 2015 20:22:13
I am feeling very Murrish tonight. 😁
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SJV
31 December 2015 20:25:58

I am feeling very Murrish tonight. 😁

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 Start the thread as we mean to go on, right? 

polarwind
31 December 2015 20:47:09

I am feeling very Murrish tonight. 😁

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


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Karl Guille
31 December 2015 21:03:14
ECM 12z short ensembles have switched quite notably to a 75% milder solution for Holland in the 3-7 day range as opposed to a 50% split previously!

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31 December 2015 21:03:30
Just a quick message before I venture out into what is a fairly brisk night here in Highland Perthshire. Have a very Happy New Year and all the best to everyone on TWO for 2016. It's always great to read the posts on here from what is a very knowledgeable group of posters.

In terms of the prospects for the next week, I tend to agree with Steve Murr's analysis of earlier today; that is one hell of a block and I don't think it is going anywhere quickly. It might be a slow burner but I think a blast from the East/North East is likely for a good part of the UK, and that the models will pick up on this increasingly over the next few days. Interesting times ahead whatever happens.




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Saint Snow
31 December 2015 21:32:22

ECM 12z short ensembles have switched quite notably to a 75% milder solution for Holland in the 3-7 day range as opposed to a 50% split previously!

Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


 


Could suggest a low undercutting, sliding into the continent, whilst advecting the cold air westwards on a more northerly track.




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Whether Idle
31 December 2015 21:38:00

I am feeling very Murrish tonight. 😁

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Then don't look at these 12z SW Holland ensembles - mild(ish)/ seasonal)  all the way. (5% showing cold blip?)



You need to do this, maybe?:



No amount of "Canutism" can hold back the Atlantic it seems!


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David M Porter
31 December 2015 21:47:08


 


Then don't look at these 12z SW Holland ensembles - mild(ish)/ seasonal)  all the way. (5% showing cold blip?)



You need to do this, maybe?:



No amount of "Canutism" can hold back the Atlantic it seems!


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Someone said just before the end of the last thread that they had done just that yesterday, and were now looking for their towel!


I think there is one thing we can be reasonably sure of just now, and that is the coming week or so is, for many areas at least, going to be somewhat colder than probably any other week we've had in the past two months. While it looks like staying zonal for a while longer anyway, it doesn't look to be of the same very mild type with a dominant Euro high as per recent weeks. Temps I would suggest are likely to be rather closer to average compared to recently.


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picturesareme
31 December 2015 21:48:50

 


A low pressure centred over central southern England would bring East - northeast winds to the northern and South - South west winds to its South... Holland being to towards its South East 


 



 


Then don't look at these 12z SW Holland ensembles - mild(ish)/ seasonal)  all the way. (5% showing cold blip?)



You need to do this, maybe?:



No amount of "Canutism" can hold back the Atlantic it seems!


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

Fothergill
31 December 2015 22:13:42

ECM ens mean day 7. I can't see Murr's easterly happening from this to be honest 



Happy new year 

David M Porter
31 December 2015 22:15:25

What will the final GFS op run of 2015 bring us, one wonders?


Hope everyone here has a very Happy New Year when it comes.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Shropshire
31 December 2015 22:25:39

Happy New Year everyone, as Fothergill has shown, the Atlantic is highly likely to win this one comfortably; the general NWP consensus has not shown anything else as being significantly likely.


 


Hopefully we can move on from this one and the chase can begin for Greenland heights later in January.


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David M Porter
31 December 2015 22:40:06


Happy New Year everyone, as Fothergill has shown, the Atlantic is highly likely to win this one comfortably; the general NWP consensus has not shown anything else as being significantly likely.


 


Hopefully we can move on from this one and the chase can begin for Greenland heights later in January.


Originally Posted by: Shropshire 


FWIW I'm actually starting to agree with you there. Some GFS op runs, including the 12z earlier, have been hinting at this in FI. Let's see if this run also shows that.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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nsrobins
31 December 2015 23:50:38
The GFS has just released its new year resolution - to stop being a tease and deliver the ultimate deeply cold easterly blizzard in January and keep us all happy.
And tomorrow is just another ordinary day in the weather world .... 😍
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pdiddy
01 January 2016 00:14:42

Happy New Year all! And thanks to those who give up their time to make this happen!


 


Anyway, one bad set of runs does not mean the end of Winter (just as a single run of cold charts doth not equal snowfest).  Let's see what the New Year brings.  Still plenty to think about in the next few days (still some cold runs in the GFS ens) and irrespective of the outcome, some fascinating model runs that we can all learn from.


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White Meadows
01 January 2016 00:53:10
Not far from the truth, so it feels right now.
...BUT
Later in Jan there are favourable indications towards cold for the uk

HNY all...
roger63
01 January 2016 01:11:50

Whatever the weather brings a happy and peaceful 2016 to all.

Weathermac
01 January 2016 01:22:57
Happy New Year all.
Sevendust
01 January 2016 06:49:10

This coming Thursday on the GFS operational looks interesting with some support from ECM

Whether Idle
01 January 2016 07:03:26

Happy New Year.  May it bring model delight in fantasy and reality!


 


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Jayni C
01 January 2016 07:04:25


This coming Thursday on the GFS operational looks interesting with some support from ECM


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


maybe for the Midlands north . . . looks like horizontal rain in our area 

Retron
01 January 2016 08:48:02

Happy New Year all!


Here are this morning's ECM ensembles. It looks like the "continued SW'ly" option is continuing to gain ground this morning, although there's still a good deal of scatter in a week's time.



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Gusty
01 January 2016 09:08:25

Happy New Year all.


Check out this chart for a ferocious storm on the south coast. Its been shown a few times now. Gusts 90-100 mph. 


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doctormog
01 January 2016 09:09:29


This coming Thursday on the GFS operational looks interesting with some support from ECM


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


I prefer the look of Tues//Wed personally 


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