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Ally Pally Snowman
06 January 2016 16:54:49

Some insane amounts of snow 324h + another good run all in all


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Gandalf The White
06 January 2016 16:54:53

That's a heck of a chart, coming off the back of a week's cold weather:



Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Rob K
06 January 2016 16:56:32
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3601.gif 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Rob K
06 January 2016 16:57:56
Surely with charts like this rolling out the Met Office are going to have to rewrite their text forecast tomorrow?

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Russwirral
06 January 2016 16:58:01
when you see a northerly behind the northerly you are tracking - that has all the hall signs of the first one probably failing. WE may see a downgrade over the need few days to a tame toppler followed by a powerful northerly.

other than that - another stella run. 😃
ITSY
06 January 2016 16:58:07


That's a heck of a chart, coming off the back of a week's cold weather:



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Quite. TBH that is the most interesting part - above and beyond the minutai of will it snow IMBY, the constant theme over the last 24-48hrs has been the extension of cold into the foreseeable, whether from the N, NW, NE or E.

Solar Cycles
06 January 2016 16:59:00


That's a heck of a chart, coming off the back of a week's cold weather:



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Potential galore heading further and further into FI. I must say these are the best set of charts ( it they verify ) since December 2010 IMO.

ITSY
06 January 2016 16:59:28

when you see a northerly behind the northerly you are tracking - that has all the hall signs of the first one probably failing. WE may see a downgrade over the need few days to a tame toppler followed by a powerful northerly.

other than that - another stella run. :D

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


maybe you're right, but talk about half-glass-full syndrome!

Sinky1970
06 January 2016 16:59:30
Well, we can only hope something similar comes to fruition nearer the time.
soperman
06 January 2016 17:00:33

did anyone order a Channel Low?

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Originally Posted by: kmoorman 


 


Sort of earlier on

Russwirral
06 January 2016 17:03:02


 


maybe you're right, but talk about half-glass-full syndrome!


Originally Posted by: ITSY 


 


years of beatings from the GFS leaves me very pessimistic of even the slightest issue arising.


 


Still - ill buzz off this run until 9.30 then get nervous again.


Gandalf The White
06 January 2016 17:04:05

Surely with charts like this rolling out the Met Office are going to have to rewrite their text forecast tomorrow?

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Assuming the typist has got beyond 'Control+C' followed by 'Control+V' 


Joking aside, there's nothing there that says this will be more than the 2-3 day event to which they have referred.  Still doubt about how that pattern evolves.  Unlike the GFS there's that LP 1,500 miles west of Iberia: whilst it's supporting the block it's fine but what if it moves ENE?


Apart from that the T+144 chart isn't spectacular for the UK



 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Sinky1970
06 January 2016 17:08:28
I think what's required is a time machine.
Russwirral
06 January 2016 17:13:24
GEM goes the other way and builds HP over the UK...
Scandy 1050 MB
06 January 2016 17:15:07


 


Assuming the typist has got beyond 'Control+C' followed by 'Control+V' 


Joking aside, there's nothing there that says this will be more than the 2-3 day event to which they have referred.  Still doubt about how that pattern evolves.  Unlike the GFS there's that LP 1,500 miles west of Iberia: whilst it's supporting the block it's fine but what if it moves ENE?


Apart from that the T+144 chart isn't spectacular for the UK



 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Surprising GFS charts this evening - really did expect some complications and a downgrade not what has happened. Let' see what ECM comes out with - if that trends colder too we could be looking at something very interesting cold wise. Whatever happens best charts I have seen since March 2013 - some nice eye candy there. Hope it doesn't go the way of late Jan 2015 when we had potential but it just wasn't cold enough for most people and resulted in temporary slush away from the north and high ground. 

Gandalf The White
06 January 2016 17:30:15

GEFS ensemble mean (bias corrected) chart at T+168:



 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Deep Powder
06 January 2016 17:31:23


 


 


I remember it well. It was "nailed on". ECM couldn't be wrong at 96 hours etc. The forum went into meltdown then chaos theory prevailed in the atmosphere and the ECM forecast changed in the morning ... I was gutted.


I didn't realise it was so long ago. I wonder if they remodelled the ECM computer model based on lessons learned ...


Originally Posted by: Notty 


Dont think it was 2009 guys, because on 2nd Feb 2009 we had 20 to 40cms of snow an easterly across parts of the SE (including 15cm in London). The month then continued coldish, with the snow focus shifting to the SW and Midlands etc. Maybe it was 2007, but definitely a Feb..........


Near Leatherhead 100masl (currently living in China since September 2019)
Loving the weather whatever it brings, snow, rain, wind, sun, heat, all great!
warrenb
06 January 2016 17:35:52


GEFS ensemble mean (bias corrected) chart at T+168:



 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


That chart says to me GAME ON. If we get to a point where the entire ensemble is going for it even with slightly different starting data, then in my mind it is locked in.


Russwirral
06 January 2016 17:43:04


GEFS ensemble mean (bias corrected) chart at T+168:



 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


Mountain torque prevalent on that chart around scandi - which also explains the Strat warming pointed out earlier.


Rob K
06 January 2016 17:50:44


 


Assuming the typist has got beyond 'Control+C' followed by 'Control+V' 


Joking aside, there's nothing there that says this will be more than the 2-3 day event to which they have referred.  Still doubt about how that pattern evolves.  Unlike the GFS there's that LP 1,500 miles west of Iberia: whilst it's supporting the block it's fine but what if it moves ENE?


Apart from that the T+144 chart isn't spectacular for the UK



 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


Looks good enough to me. Approx 523dam 1000-850mb thickness even for me in central southern England and plenty of troughs in the flow.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Polar Low
06 January 2016 17:52:09

Strange but fab chart almost like a two sided mirror


Ally Pally Snowman
06 January 2016 17:54:20


Strange but fab chart almost like a two sided mirror



Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


 


A quite remarkable looking chart and only a week away.


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
johnm1976
06 January 2016 17:55:12

What's not to like about that run from GFS?

Maybe the death of the Arctic and Greenland highs towards the end and slow, slow move towards a topple, which is so far in FI it can almost be disregarded anyway?...
But.. and I'm sorry to shout.... look at the SSW appearing for the 3rd run in a row.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=384&mode=10&carte=1

Hope "springs" eternal.

And "spring" is ironic, because you know what's going to happen? We're going to get bouts of winter which last into April.

I feel it......

squish
06 January 2016 17:55:15
12z CMA much better than the 00z run
http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/cma/runs/2016010612/cmanh-0-216.png?12 

D.E.W on Dartmoor. 300m asl
Brian Gaze
06 January 2016 17:55:29

GEFS12z update looks reasonable for cold weather fans.



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Berkhamsted
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