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Bertwhistle
03 June 2016 06:49:54

Still looking like a warm week next week.


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=/charts/gefs/gefsens850brighton0.png?cb=337


Pretty good agreement as far as 11th. Wouldn't take a lot to turn this into a sizzler.


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=/charts/gfs/00_186_mslp850.png?cb=337


 


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Brian Gaze
03 June 2016 10:12:38

Looking very warm and thundery next week.



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Charmhills
03 June 2016 10:21:51

Warm and thundery, that will do me.


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SJV
03 June 2016 10:33:32


Warm and thundery, that will do me.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


I knew you'd be summoned to this thread after that chart! 


It does look interesting from a convective viewpoint net week. After this week a bit of humidity and warmth will do me fine 

Ally Pally Snowman
04 June 2016 07:34:10

Who's up for some mid June frost! Horrific later stages on this mornings ECM. Maybe Moomin's nightmare summer prediction will be right after all . 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html


 


ECM seems determined to take us back to Autumn next weekend. Let's hope GFS is more on the ball as it's much better at the same point.


 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1921.html


 


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Jiries
04 June 2016 08:24:11


Who's up for some mid June frost! Horrific later stages on this mornings ECM. Maybe Moomin's nightmare summer prediction will be right after all . 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html


 


ECM seems determined to take us back to Autumn next weekend. Let's hope GFS is more on the ball as it's much better at the same point.


 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1921.html


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


I am expecting a cooler summer than last winter temps and it been the case this week with temps lower than Nov/Dec temps despite 16 hours sunlight.   This week was meant to be a very warm week with some rain on Monday then warming up on Tuesday onward but look what happened despite the ensembles graph was very wrong at 10C when actual temps was just above that, more like -3 to 0C on the uppers temps that deliver such a cold week. Did the models tell us last week we going to face 1 week of nasty cold over cast conditions? Did the TV forecasts mentioned that too for this week? All were wrong!


So no point seeing the models that far our or even 24 hours ahead due to wrongness on all this week.


Also today they were wrong as it still cold and cloudy here because they are so stupid i mean very stupid that they don't notice that Paris in trouble with flooding and rains all week that sent lot of clouds over us.  Now how the hell we going to get the warmth they are boasting early next week if Paris stay wet and cold?  I was in Paris around this time last year and was totally opposite with lot of sunny warm weather and  mid 20's.

Ally Pally Snowman
04 June 2016 08:42:39


 


I am expecting a cooler summer than last winter temps and it been the case this week with temps lower than Nov/Dec temps despite 16 hours sunlight.   This week was meant to be a very warm week with some rain on Monday then warming up on Tuesday onward but look what happened despite the ensembles graph was very wrong at 10C when actual temps was just above that, more like -3 to 0C on the uppers temps that deliver such a cold week. Did the models tell us last week we going to face 1 week of nasty cold over cast conditions? Did the TV forecasts mentioned that too for this week? All were wrong!


So no point seeing the models that far our or even 24 hours ahead due to wrongness on all this week.


Also today they were wrong as it still cold and cloudy here because they are so stupid i mean very stupid that they don't notice that Paris in trouble with flooding and rains all week that sent lot of clouds over us.  Now how the hell we going to get the warmth they are boasting early next week if Paris stay wet and cold?  I was in Paris around this time last year and was totally opposite with lot of sunny warm weather and  mid 20's.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Thats what has been incredible about this week down here is that it's been so cold with such warm 850s. Imagine how cold it could have been with even average 850s.


Well the ECM day 10 Mean is much warmer than the Op as you would expect but still very unsettled. Poor!


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.html


 


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Sevendust
04 June 2016 08:57:27

One run, one model


GFS doesn't support that ECM operational and at 10 days you might as well pxss in the wind


A warm or very warm and humid week ahead with thunder risk


A move to more zonal although not disastrous conditions looks on beyond that

Charmhills
04 June 2016 09:39:49


Who's up for some mid June frost! Horrific later stages on this mornings ECM. Maybe Moomin's nightmare summer prediction will be right after all . 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html


 


ECM seems determined to take us back to Autumn next weekend. Let's hope GFS is more on the ball as it's much better at the same point.


 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1921.html


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


In line with what Matt (MVH) has been going on about from mid June onwards.


Time of course will always tell.


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Whether Idle
04 June 2016 09:46:03


One run, one model


GFS doesn't support that ECM operational and at 10 days you might as well pxss in the wind


A warm or very warm and humid week ahead with thunder risk


A move to more zonal although not disastrous conditions looks on beyond that


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Agreed.  


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Hungry Tiger
04 June 2016 10:09:53

Just get us some sunshine. Seen none for 7 days now.


 


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moomin75
04 June 2016 19:00:23
ECM getting worse and worse. My June write off is looking increasingly likely based on ECM which is being very consistent in setting up a semi permanent trough slap bang over the UK. Cold cloudy and wet sums up the charts and has consistently stuck to that pattern for 3 days now. Not looking promising at all.
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SJV
04 June 2016 19:08:03

ECM getting worse and worse. My June write off is looking increasingly likely based on ECM which is being very consistent in setting up a semi permanent trough slap bang over the UK. Cold cloudy and wet sums up the charts and has consistently stuck to that pattern for 3 days now. Not looking promising at all.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Interesting how you completely omit next weeks warm, humid and thundery spell to appease your forecast though 

moomin75
04 June 2016 19:29:33
Look at my previous post. I have not omitted next week at all. I am commenting on what may follow and it is looking crap.
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picturesareme
04 June 2016 20:03:24


 


Interesting how you completely omit next weeks warm, humid and thundery spell to appease your forecast though 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


he's trolling, surely if he wants to continually bang on about his predictions he should be using the other thread? wink 

LeedsLad123
04 June 2016 20:19:35
Indeed.. getting rather tired of Moomin's endless forecasts of doom. Think some people are happiest when miserable.
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moomin75
04 June 2016 20:42:51

Indeed.. getting rather tired of Moomin's endless forecasts of doom. Think some people are happiest when miserable.

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


I am not trolling, I am commenting on the ECM model, which is showing an extended spell of unsettled weather.


If you don't like discussing models in the model output, then perhaps you should go somewhere else.


I am not trolling, I've been here longer than most people, and am just as entitled to my opinions as anybody else.


If you actually bothered to read previous posts, I said, ECM is showing something very poor, but GFS is different, and so all is to play for.


Is this trolling? No I think not. It's called discussion of the models in the MODEL thread!!!


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moomin75
04 June 2016 20:49:50


 


he's trolling, surely if he wants to continually bang on about his predictions he should be using the other thread? wink 


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

I am NOT trolling. I am commenting on the ECM, which no-one can deny is looking very poor.


If you actually looked at some previous comments of mine, I also said that GFS is different and all is to play for.


I am concerned about what it's showing, that's all.


Perhaps after seven days of Vitamin D deficiency due to the dullest start to June I can ever recall, I'm getting a bit cranky!


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Cumbrian Snowman
05 June 2016 09:12:02
Nearly 50hrs of sunshine this month so far, no rain, for 9 days.

This spell of weather for Cumbria has been great, this coming week looks OK aswell, occ shower but warm and mainly dry all the way through to Friday at least
Gooner
05 June 2016 09:43:49

Nearly 50hrs of sunshine this month so far, no rain, for 9 days.

This spell of weather for Cumbria has been great, this coming week looks OK aswell, occ shower but warm and mainly dry all the way through to Friday at least

Originally Posted by: Cumbrian Snowman 


Its been garbage here.....ok dry(ish) but hardly any sun.......today we are say waiting for the sun but so far just cloudy skies, have to say the Beeb haven't been very good for this location .


 


A lot of attention has been on how poor its been for the East but MBY has suffered equally


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Charmhills
05 June 2016 10:00:02

After a mostly fine week, its does turning more unsettled, cooler and wetter, especially the ECM yet again leading the way with the Met/o slowly coming round 144hs.


GFS takes a little longer but turns unsettled into the second/third week of June.


So could be the case of making the most of the fine weather this week.


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Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

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Gooner
05 June 2016 10:24:46


After a mostly fine week, its does turning more unsettled, cooler and wetter, especially the ECM yet again leading the way with the Met/o slowly coming round 144hs.


GFS takes a little longer but turns unsettled into the second/third week of June.


So could be the case of making the most of the fine weather this week.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


I'm hoping for something thundery this week


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cultman1
05 June 2016 14:00:57
The ECM projection for unsettled and cool weather after this week ... Is this likely to be a long sustained unsettled spell countrywide or short term loss for long term gain?
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05 June 2016 14:07:27

Nearly 50hrs of sunshine this month so far, no rain, for 9 days.

This spell of weather for Cumbria has been great, this coming week looks OK as well, occ shower but warm and mainly dry all the way through to Friday at least

Originally Posted by: Cumbrian Snowman 


Seconded - indeed in this part of Cumbria I've  being doing far better than Paul temperature and sun wise with easterly winds.  The last month has been really good here, sun and rain wise, just 4.8 mm since 20th May.  We've had more summery like temperatures now than we've had since at least July 2014. But it's only just the beginning of June!


The turn around since the last week of April/very start of May has been impressive, unlike last spring it feels like we've actually gone from winter into summer this year. Rivers are actually running very low, which coinsidering it was by far the wettest winter I've observed here says something.


Probably just guarenteed the coolest/wettest July and August in history now.


 

David M Porter
05 June 2016 14:31:09

The ECM projection for unsettled and cool weather after this week ... Is this likely to be a long sustained unsettled spell countrywide or short term loss for long term gain?

Originally Posted by: cultman1 


If the latest MetO medium ranger update from yesterday is proved accurate, it could be a case of the latter cultman. There have been hints in some GFS op runs in recent days of HP becoming more influential again in the latter part of June.


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