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Brian Gaze
06 December 2017 16:06:20

Chilterns could be back in the game on Sunday. Very marginal.



Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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backtobasics
06 December 2017 16:09:11
watching the commentary on Sundays slider on here is a little like Brucie on Play your cards right, higher !!! lower !!!
Rob K
06 December 2017 16:12:46

watching the commentary on Sundays slider on here is a little like Brucie on Play your cards right, higher !!! lower !!!

Originally Posted by: backtobasics 


The Forsyth saga?


Heights building further west in the Atlantic by T150. Not sure the next low will dive south as much though?


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
ballamar
Tractor Boy
06 December 2017 16:17:07

watching the commentary on Sundays slider on here is a little like Brucie on Play your cards right, higher !!! lower !!!

Originally Posted by: backtobasics 



 


P.S. Stick!


Dave
Farndale, North York Moors
soperman
06 December 2017 16:24:54

Hi Brian


 


Now for a true IMBY post


It's looking less marginal tbh - assuming the low stays on this track - we do pretty well from sliders up in the sticks - Could be rain in Aylesbury and High Wycombe though


 

Arcus
06 December 2017 16:26:31

GEM... does a GEM...(not necessarily the precious stone)



 




Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Karl Guille
06 December 2017 16:27:02
http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2017120612/gfs-0-192.png?12 


...... and very nearly an easterly!!



St. Sampson
Guernsey
Rob K
06 December 2017 16:35:50
Easterly incoming on the GFS?
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Solar Cycles
06 December 2017 16:39:07
UKMO a lot better for those further North than the GFS for Sunday as is the ARPEGE. Still think this is far from resolved at this range and the slider could even slide off into France yet. Longer term it’s pointless trying to second guess where we’re heading until we can get an handle on the first sliding low.
roger63
06 December 2017 16:41:41


Just going back to the GFS ensemble, after the uptick in temperatures at the end, the cluster has trended colder again on the 06Z, although the control and operational are still on the milder side. For Sunday's low, the operational run was just about the coldest (for London) and therefore presumably at the southern end of the range.

http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/runs/2017120606/graphe3_1000___-0.12574_51.5085_Londres.gif


 



 


Still only 20% give snow for London from Sunday's low.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Yes agree that clusters have turned colder.I make ratio cold ens to warm ens 65:35

Rob K
06 December 2017 16:42:24

UKMO a lot better for those further North than the GFS for Sunday as is the ARPEGE. Still think this is far from resolved at this range and the slider could even slide off into France yet. Longer term it’s pointless trying to second guess where we’re heading until we can get an handle on the first sliding low.

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 


ARPEGE seems to consistently have a lot more precipitation than the other models. Midlanders and northern Englanders should be happy with this one!



 


Meanwhile GFS is teasing us with another of those midwinter easterlies ...


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
johncs2016
06 December 2017 17:06:02

watching the commentary on Sundays slider on here is a little like Brucie on Play your cards right, higher !!! lower !!!

Originally Posted by: backtobasics 


Until of course, you got to a point where nothing actually changes and in that case, you would be bust because as Sir Bruce Forsyth used to say in that scenario, "You get nothing for a pair in this game" (or something like that).


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
David M Porter
06 December 2017 17:10:58


 


Until of course, you got to a point where nothing actually changes and in that case, you would be bust because as Sir Bruce Forsyth used to say in that scenario, "You get nothing for a pair in this game" (or something like that).


Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


Or as Bullseye's Jim Bowen used to say during the prizes round on that programme, "Nothing in this game for two in a bed".


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Karl Guille
06 December 2017 17:17:22
Ally Pally Snowman
06 December 2017 17:21:51


 


 


ARPEGE seems to consistently have a lot more precipitation than the other models. Midlanders and northern Englanders should be happy with this one!



 


Meanwhile GFS is teasing us with another of those midwinter easterlies ...


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Yes if anything it's even less clear after the 12z regarding the Sunday slider. Long term both GFS and GEm look promising Arctic,  Siberian,  Greenland and Scandinavian highs all possible this Dec be it seems.


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
doctormog
06 December 2017 17:22:26

Lots of cool and unsettled conditions around. Some very strong winds likely in the next 24hr in northern parts (hence the amber warning)

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_27_1.png 

After that feeling cold in the wind with snow or wintry showers for NW parts (at least). Beyond then there still seems to be a good snow risk for some more southern parts of the U.K.


Maunder Minimum
06 December 2017 17:25:16

12Z looks like a decent enough run overall - precipitation type is an issue though, since it is sometimes clearly going to be rain in England, rather than snow.


New world order coming.
marco 79
06 December 2017 17:27:14
GFS 12 shows a lot of potential cold for our shores up to the reliable....It seems Sundays wave is progressively being progged further SW....But potential for snow next week at short range could be possible with the synoptics modeled.... What with colder clustering now being shown...Without doubt at this moment in time the best setup for Dec for 7 long years.....
Home : Mid Leicestershire ...135m ASL
David M Porter
06 December 2017 17:34:47

GFS 12 shows a lot of potential cold for our shores up to the reliable....It seems Sundays wave is progressively being progged further SW....But potential for snow next week at short range could be possible with the synoptics modeled.... What with colder clustering now being shown...Without doubt at this moment in time the best setup for Dec for 7 long years.....

Originally Posted by: marco 79 


I certainly can't recall any model runs from any December in the period from 2011 up to and including last December being as good as quite a lot of those we have seen of late. Obviously it's only early doors as far as winter as a whole is concerned, but on the evidence of the current output, we are getting off to a better start than any other winter has in the past 6 years.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Rob K
06 December 2017 17:36:07

I've just had a flip through the GEFS and there is a large number of Scandi high options (albeit the uppers aren't spectacular on many of them).


 


Some of the output is frankly X-rated.


 



Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Rob K
06 December 2017 17:38:19

With the usual caveat that these are height anomaly chart... this is 240 hours mean:



And this is the 300 hours mean:



 


And 384hrs:



 


 


Quite promising for the run-up to Christmas, I would say!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
doctormog
06 December 2017 17:40:21
Lots of opportunities around for cold rain (outnumbering those for snow currently I think).

Still, there’s nothing too mild in the outlook currently (nor indeed the 12z GFS ensemble consensus)
Karl Guille
06 December 2017 17:40:50
Now that's an improvement on the 06z GEFS!! These are for London!
http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/runs/2017120612/graphe3_1000_312.94000244140625_137.4199981689453___.gif 
St. Sampson
Guernsey
roger63
06 December 2017 17:41:32


I've just had a flip through the GEFS and there is a large number of Scandi high options (albeit the uppers aren't spectacular on many of them).


 


Some of the output is frankly X-rated.


 



Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Try 17,18,19,20 for size


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=384&code=17&mode=0&carte=0


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=384&code=18&mode=0&carte=0


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=384&code=19&mode=0&carte=0


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=384&code=20&mode=0&carte=0


 

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