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Whether Idle
23 February 2018 18:45:01

Were the ECM to verify to day 8 (which it almost certainly wont as shown) then a lot of southern England would be seriously buried in snow.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
SEMerc
23 February 2018 18:45:18

OK, forget any other runs for the rest of the week I'll take ECM T+168 & T+192 please.

Bertwhistle
23 February 2018 18:46:21

Great ENS this afternoon- 5 days with mean < -10 (would be 6 days if the lefty Op wasn't being so expressive); with 192 snow rows (although it topped 200 this morning).


Bertie, Itchen Valley.
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Nordic Snowman
23 February 2018 18:46:54

If the ECM Op @ T192 verifies, there will be significant snowfalls for much of the southern half of the UK from this Low (and continued snow showers further N).


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=2&time=192&run=12&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24


The Low is moving slowly and this could result in up to 48+ hours of snowfall for many. The 850s remain at ca. -5c to -10c and of course, the 2M temperature will remain conducive for snow.



Bjorli, Norway

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Rob K
23 February 2018 18:47:28


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=///www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/ecm/120_thickuk.png?cb=289


Is that really the 510 dam line past most of S UK?


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


Yes as I said on the last page we are looking at a 500dam cold pool which is a very very rare beast indeed. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
SJV
23 February 2018 18:47:46


OK, forget any other runs for the rest of the week I'll take ECM T+168 & T+192 please.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


any sides with that, sir?


moomin75
23 February 2018 18:48:38


 


and the 192 god knows the snow potential 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Can I tell friends and family now??


I even think I may see a snowflake or two if the ECM verifies. 😂😂


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Gooner
23 February 2018 18:49:53

Lets be fair the ECM is a possibility ....the LP is being modelled to approach from the South 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Rob K
23 February 2018 18:50:18
At 120 we have 501 dam in east Anglia. I reckon a 126 or 132 hour chart would maybe show an elusive 499.

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/ecmwf.aspx?run=na&charthour=120&chartname=thickuk_only&chartregion=uk&charttag=UK%20thickness 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
SEMerc
23 February 2018 18:50:22

T+216 pretty good too; nice easterly flow coming off the North Sea.

moomin75
23 February 2018 18:50:30
So after the Great Blizzard ECM reloads the cold at 216hrs as the -8c uppers are replaced with -10. Speechless.
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Bertwhistle
23 February 2018 18:51:22


 


Yes as I said on the last page we are looking at a 500dam cold pool which is a very very rare beast indeed. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


So some knowledge is required here (by me, not you)- does the map change resolution below 520dam or thereabouts? It's mapped in intervals of 2dam down to 522 and then that 510 line on count-back should be 516 if the sequence continues. 


Edit: yes, thanks Rob; I've seen the other charts on GFS and that's answered my question. Amazing; so how does this thickness compare to minima in the Jan79, Jan 82, Jan 85 and Jan 87 spells anybody? I seem to recall a 492 brushed us once...anecdotal.


Bertie, Itchen Valley.
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SJV
23 February 2018 18:51:24

This ECM might be the best run I've ever seen.

Gavin D
23 February 2018 18:51:26

Taking the past 3 12z runs from ECM for March 1st you can see how far north the real cold air has shifted it has gone from hitting northern France to pretty much missing them


21st


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22nd


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Today


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DeeDee
23 February 2018 18:51:45


Can I tell friends and family now??


I even think I may see a snowflake or two if the ECM verifies. 😂😂


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


my issue entirely 😮 I’m keen to warn but don’t want to fall on my face. I’ve totally replanned next week myself, don’t want to affect other people’s week 😳


Harpenden, Herts.
Whether Idle
23 February 2018 18:51:57


Lets be fair the ECM is a possibility ....the LP is being modelled to approach from the South 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Its one to watch Marcus.  I'm a bit dizzy.  I cant actually believe the charts I'm seeing.


They are FI after around day 4-5, but the possibility is there, it looks so logical...


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
ozone_aurora
23 February 2018 18:52:33


Absolutely crazy. Snowmageddon Mark II.


I have NEVER seen anything like it.....upgrades continue. 


Dumbfounded. 🌨🌨🌨🌨🌨🌨🌨🌨🌨🌨🌨🌨🌨


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Yep, like Day After Tomorrow! 

moomin75
23 February 2018 18:52:50


This ECM might be the best run I've ever seen.


Originally Posted by: SJV 

Until tomorrow's 0z!! 😁😁😁


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Nordic Snowman
23 February 2018 18:53:09

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=2&time=216&run=12&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24


T216 is also an awesome chart.


As the snow peters out from the W, continued snow/snow showers look likely in the E.


Nights will be very cold with any clearer skies and snow cover and further more, the Atlantic is dead. No foreseeable sign of any breakdown from the W from here.


Bjorli, Norway

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some faraway beach
23 February 2018 18:55:08


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=2&time=216&run=12&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24


T216 is also an awesome chart.


As the snow peters out from the W, continued snow/snow showers look likely in the E.


Nights will be very cold with any clearer skies and snow cover and further more, the Atlantic is dead. No foreseeable sign of any breakdown from the W from here.


Originally Posted by: Nordic Snowman 


And an Arctic high forming too. This is only getting started!



2 miles west of Taunton, 32 m asl, where "milder air moving in from the west" becomes SNOWMAGEDDON.
Well, two or three times a decade it does, anyway.
Snowedin3
23 February 2018 18:55:56


 


And an Arctic high forming too. This is only getting started!



Originally Posted by: some faraway beach 


 


that chart is incredible 


Dean Barnes
Finstock, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire
160m ASL 525 Ft
Whether Idle
23 February 2018 18:58:06


 


And an Arctic high forming too. This is only getting started!



Originally Posted by: some faraway beach 


MG


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Nordic Snowman
23 February 2018 19:00:34

I can see a rinse and repeat brewing from ECM at T240 too.



Bjorli, Norway

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Chichesterweatherfan2
23 February 2018 19:01:03
And yet, still a total disconnect with BBC local weather forecast. on South Today, temp next week around 2deg, up to 4 by Friday...and just the chance of a snow show overnight Monday into Tuesday...what is going on?
nsrobins
23 February 2018 19:01:40


 


my issue entirely 😮 I’m keen to warn but don’t want to fall on my face. I’ve totally replanned next week myself, don’t want to affect other people’s week 😳


Originally Posted by: DeeDee 


Why wouldn’t you? I’ve made some real duff calls over the years but also some good ones. It’s called weather forecasting and I never feel embarrassed about getting it a bit wrong at times. I called this 6 days ago and I’ve got school teachers and NHS staff on my group who are grateful for the warnings. 


On the subject of the ECM. Quite frankly it’s the run of the week, if not the literally the century ☃️❄️


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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