Indeed.

I got the geezer  installing mine to route it under the work top  into the main sink outlet - less chance of it freezing - better than just poking the poxy thing out through the wall like most do - I suppose its a safe enough bet it will be OK, given our usual "forever autumn" climate, but I'm  a pessimistic optimist  !

Talked my wife over pouring boiling water over it and it does seem to be working now. Phew. Panic over

We did the same after our condensate pipe froze for the second time in Dec 2010. IMO it should be illegal to run them outside except where there is no alternative.  

Can you imagine ringing the police for this......

Was supposed to be travelling to Sheffield on Saturday; the girls are in a comp there. We were making our own way there, but half the squad were going on a coach.

The coach company has now cancelled the journey because 'of the risks of travelling on the M62'. The squad's now pulled out of the competition completely.

FFS. It's two days away. Likely to be less cold by then - and even if not, the road will have been ploughed and gritted.

I was proper looking forward to the drive, too.

Still snowless here except for a dusting in corners. Last chance saloon tomorrow. Last throw of the dice.

Not long now before this event can be described as an utter disaster for SE Kent.

Sorry to hear that, Steve. Incredible difference just 15 miles away.

According to the radar it should be snowing but it's not. It's more dry, windy, mind-numbing overcast rubbish 

Absolutely sick to death of living somewhere that constantly misses out. Certainly never used to be like this 

The ultimate, historic, all-time snow FAIL. Epic. The disappointment really is tangible. On top of the cold rain streamer on 4 February and other near misses it has been a winter of pain. Only tomorrow can rescue it to a degree.

It's not been much better in NW England away from the Pennines - MBY is similar to most of central & western Manchester and Cheshire.

A case of a succession of near-misses here, too. So I share the pain of you Kentish Men

Despite having snow falling for most of the last 4 days, the largest accumulation on the ground at any one time has been just over an inch. We had an amber warning that delivered no snow at all until AFTER the end time of the warning. Even Central London has had more snow on the ground than here...in fact 15 miles in all directions have by and large seen more snow than here. It is currently snowing now, but not adding to the miniscule depth, other than to put a dusting on uncovered surfaces. Our only real chance is tomorrow - maybe the amber warning that is 10 miles to the west will be moved east and give something meaningful...but I'm not holding my breath...

But wasn't Scotland in Amber warning? your part?

Here in EXETER WE now have heavy freezing rain and ice pellets mixed in with snowflakes and the temp has risen to -1.5c. Horrible out there now as it's frozen the powdery snow that fell for 6 hours and gave 6.5 inches and also making the landscape look icy - some icicles forming from gutter and car now!! This is a real USA styple winter storm - reminded me of the nor'easter i experienced on 16th December 2003 when I was in NEW Jersey. - When it snowed heavily with powdery snow and settled mid morning and became wet snow in afternoon then there were ice pellets /freezing rain early evening! 

Thanks Justin 

Eastern Hythe to Ramsgate - the new snow desert

That bloody gap over Staffordshire on radar. A great day for wind and blowing snow but rubbish amounts falling.

Being of a "certain age" myself I think this is beautifully written and evocative of an era. My hormones were rising in '63 but needed a couple more years to kick in so playing in the snow was still a priority. You should write more 

Why wasnt't the Peak District, Pennines and Cumbrian Fells put under a red warning? 

The winds were really strong last night here near sea level. You got powdery snow, huge drifts forming, trees reportedly coming down, so why no red warning for these areas?

I certainly think the hazards were underplayed in parts of NW England. 

Yes, I hate this... People seem incapable of looking further than their own nose and that things change!

How the hell is the M62 - the main trans-Pennine arterial route between two of the biggest conurbations in the country - still closed?

I get that the snow moved in at a not great time yesterday morning, but come on! It's at the most a foot. I've driven over the tops on that road in a full-on snowstorm where the snow at the side of the motorway was about 6' deep; the motorway was down to 1 lane for most of the high-altitude part with the outside lane under a good foot. Yet we still kept moving. This was at night.

Perhaps the sheer number of vehicles played a part - but that in turn should serve to flatten/melt the snow. I personally think the bedwetting fraternity, those who panic when driving in snow, are heavily to blame. Those and lorry drivers, whose inability to keep their rigs moving up a hill in a straight line was apparently the trigger for the traffic stopping

Whatever, it's an embarrassment that it remains closed after 24 hours.

If the authorities cannot keep the main trans-Pennine route properly ploughed and cleared, then perhaps they should ban lorries from using it when it snows, and fine any mentally-deficient numpty from travelling on it (which would include most women)

It's a disgrace.

And another thing while I'm in the moaning mood.

There's too many pinned topics. That leaves room for only a handful of threads below that on page 1, so threads easily slip into page 2 oblivion