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nsrobins
04 January 2014 21:17:24


very very nice some of those gm members


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/cmc_cartes.php?ech=264&code=11&mode=0&carte=1


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


I've been meaning to ask - is there a sphagetti plot of the GEM suite (a la GFS) by any chance?


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Polar Low
04 January 2014 21:25:44

I dont think ive seen one here Neil but someone like Darren or Peter might know better.


I usually look at all the members in person so to speak.


 




very very nice some of those gm members


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/cmc_cartes.php?ech=264&code=11&mode=0&carte=1


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


I've been meaning to ask - is there a sphagetti plot of the GEM suite (a la GFS) by any chance?


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

nsrobins
04 January 2014 21:31:07

http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/Data/PLUIM_06260_NWT.png


The De Bilts - undeniable cooling trend from the Euro model.
IMO much hinges on where the core of the decaying low ends-up. If it sinks slowly SE the door could be open for a more decent height rise to the North.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Polar Low
04 January 2014 21:32:24
Quantum
04 January 2014 21:42:03



very very nice some of those gm members


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/cmc_cartes.php?ech=264&code=11&mode=0&carte=1


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


I've been meaning to ask - is there a sphagetti plot of the GEM suite (a la GFS) by any chance?


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Meteociel plots every individual member


http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_panel.php?modele=1&mode=1&ech=6


Looking at the descriptors here


http://weather.gc.ca/grib/GEPS_HR/GEPS_NAEFS_latlon1p0x1p0_P000_MBRZERO_e.html


there is no reason why it shouldn't be possible to do a spegetti plot. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Polar Low
Willow
04 January 2014 21:57:05
Worth a read, I have surfed for over 30 years and this is a forecast i have never seen for the UK.

http://magicseaweed.com/news/Atlantic-Code-Red-Incoming/5954/ 
nsrobins
04 January 2014 22:23:03

Cheers for the links people.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Sevendust
04 January 2014 22:27:29

Worth a read, I have surfed for over 30 years and this is a forecast i have never seen for the UK. Originally Posted by: Willow 

">http://magicseaweed.com/news/Atlantic-Code-Red-Incoming/5954/

 


This appeared on some of the FB feeds earlier and it is indeed an exceptional forecast.


Meanwhile, thanks to Martin for his summary as usual. Great asset to the site and an unbiased view of the next few days

White Meadows
04 January 2014 22:51:31
18z brings only temporary relief from the Atlantic onslaught. I for one hope this isn't the first run in a reversal for a calmer spell.
Peoples lives are at risk.
Phil G
04 January 2014 22:57:22
510 line just to the west of the country. Atlantic must be cooling down from the onslaught of cold air from the States.
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3363.png 
Gooner
04 January 2014 23:04:39

Lets remember it is just GFS as Darren says there more than just that model


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


White Meadows
04 January 2014 23:12:56

510 line just to the west of the country. Atlantic must be cooling down from the onslaught of cold air from the States.
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3363.png 

Originally Posted by: Phil G 



Looks about 400 miles to our west to be honest. Still serves to keep the pond boiling with rage with so much cold from eastern US however.
Karl Guille
05 January 2014 00:04:42
GFS 18z ensembles are showing an increasing trend towards cooling in the 7-10day period with a number of potential easterly options on offer. A long way to go but the trend is definitely there.
St. Sampson
Guernsey
Gooner
05 January 2014 00:09:12

GFS 18z ensembles are showing an increasing trend towards cooling in the 7-10day period with a number of potential easterly options on offer. A long way to go but the trend is definitely there.

Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


There is Karl, I have just flicked through a few and some like the idea of an Easterly


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Quantum
05 January 2014 01:40:45

Strat warming wise, neither GFS or NAVGEM are budging. Its time for a bloodbath


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/navgem/runs/2014010418/navgemnh-7-144.png?04-23


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
jondg14
05 January 2014 04:23:48
http://images.meteociel.fr/im/1309/gfs-0-144_abh4.png 

Can't sleep but at least there is something interesting to look at. GFS very different on this run with the jet going much further South and pressure building to our North East. We might get an undercutting low.

Plenty of variation across the board at the moment though so FI must be earlier than normal.
jondg14
05 January 2014 04:34:31
http://images.meteociel.fr/im/8146/gfs-0-192_lhx5.png 

Not quite. Some energy goes North of the UK to stop a decent block forming in the right place for us. Instead let's spin up another nasty LP 👎

Well into FI at this stage though.
jondg14
05 January 2014 04:41:05
http://images.meteociel.fr/im/4327/UW144-21_prp9.GIF 

UKMO not as promising but at least that is a much more settled looking chart
Retron
05 January 2014 05:59:06

Another day on and it's the same story as yesterday. There's still going to be a change away from our very wet and windy conditions on the 9th, with temperatures returning to near-normal values.

As expected there's still a bit of intra-run variation beyond that, with ECM-15 continuing to show distinctly average conditions. Beyond day 10 ECM-15 splits into two clusters, with a milder, wetter cluster and a colder, drier cluster. Both have a similar number of members, resulting in the mean remaining around the long-term average. Note that right now, as has been the case for a few days now, the ECM-15 mean charts as shown on Wetterzentrale are all but useless - they're not representative of either cluster.

GEFS has sorted itself out after its 6z wobble yesterday: the 12z, 18z and 0z suites all show generally average conditions too beyond the 9th, with less in the way of wind and rain than of late. Like ECM, it also shows two main clusters beyond day 10, although unlike ECM towards the end it's split 75%/25% in favour of a spell of colder than average conditions.

So, as it stands - the 9th will still mark a change away from the current synoptics. Beyond that is uncertain, with a few average days probable and then it could go one of two ways, either back to a milder, wetter outlook or remaining more settled with temperatures at or a bit below average.


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/services/ensemble-forecast.html - ECM


http://www.meteociel.com/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?x=306&y=141&run=0&ville=Londres&runpara=0&type=3&ext=1 - GEFS 0z


Leysdown, north Kent
White Meadows
05 January 2014 07:39:31
Ensembles have taken a step in the right direction this morning but the trend is generally cool not cold for most options. At least it will be drier!!!!
Gusty
05 January 2014 07:41:47

It's looks to me that our drier and anticyclonic period of weather has been somewhat downgraded to more of a transitory and passing ridge on most of the output this morning and mostly benefitting the south. There are ominous signs developing that the form horse for high pressure to sink south into France will open the door to another zonal and mobile set up in the longer term. Thankfully it doesn't look quite as extreme as our recent atlantic onslaught though !


One to watch but certainly more confidence in this set up than anything properly cold and wintry in the longer term. 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png GFS


 http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.gif  ECM


 High pressure on the UKMO 144 looks fragile.. likely the atlantic will turn things wetter again moving forward too.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif


 


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JACKO4EVER
05 January 2014 08:06:33
Morning all. After a quick flick through the data this morning it looks like the potential HP spell is tenuous to say the least. However, the good news is that it looks overall less stormy and perhaps with more of a pressure rise to the South we could start to get more of a Southerly influence on things turning it a little more milder than of late. Bands of rain shouldn't be as heavy but zonal is still the form horse for the longer term IMO
Retron
05 January 2014 08:27:53

0z ECM ensembles:

http://oi40.tinypic.com/2v7tiz8.jpg

The trend from the last few days is still very much present with the switch to a drier, less windy spell of weather showing up well. It's noteworthy too that the median maximum temperature is now below average from the 11th onwards, with a median high of just 3C by the end of the run.

In comparison the 12z run had 6C median highs on the 10th-12th, with a median high of 5C on the 13th and 14th.

Based on that, I expect the London 15-day plume will show lower temperatures overall past the 11th compared to last night's run:

http://www.weathercast.co.uk/services/ensemble-forecast.html

When considered alongside the GEFS (which favours the cold cluster this morning, as it did on the 18z too) it all adds up to the "what comes next?" question being answered with "probably colder".


EDIT: As with yesterday's output, note the almost complete absense of >10C temperatures past the 11th. Whatever comes next is unlikely to be especially mild!


Leysdown, north Kent
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