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nsrobins
23 February 2014 21:25:23

Thanks Martin.
In the face of unprecedented wind and rain and an almost total lack of anything wintry (except the usual high altitude), you've stuck to the task of dishing out the bad news and I am not alone in appreciating your output.


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GIBBY
23 February 2014 21:41:28

Thanks Neil. I wish I could deliver some better news as it seems that I have used the words rain, showers, gales and floods all too frequently for the last three months. I still hope to soon talk about sun, warmth and dry weather as the seasons slowly change but I wouldn't bet on it for a while yet. Thanks for the support anyway.


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Gooner
23 February 2014 23:50:12

very little in the way of settled weather on the 18z, again unsettled fits it well


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llamedos
24 February 2014 07:49:19


Thanks Neil. I wish I could deliver some better news as it seems that I have used the words rain, showers, gales and floods all too frequently for the last three months.

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 

We'll club together and buy you a Thesaurus if these rather depressing words feature heavily in many more of your forecasts, Martin.


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The Beast from the East
24 February 2014 07:59:07

Azores ridge makes a comeback on most of the 00zs. Will it still be there tonight?


 


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vince
24 February 2014 08:40:03


Thanks Martin.
In the face of unprecedented wind and rain and an almost total lack of anything wintry (except the usual high altitude), you've stuck to the task of dishing out the bad news and I am not alone in appreciating your output.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


^Agree 100% , it certainly has been one of those Winters ,all for the wrong reasons , into the last week and bar any nonsense this will be my first ever D,J,F  without any laying snow in my 48 years .

Essan
24 February 2014 08:44:32



Thanks Martin.
In the face of unprecedented wind and rain and an almost total lack of anything wintry (except the usual high altitude), you've stuck to the task of dishing out the bad news and I am not alone in appreciating your output.


Originally Posted by: vince 


^Agree 100% , it certainly has been one of those Winters ,all for the wrong reasons , into the last week and bar any nonsense this will be my first ever D,J,F  without any laying snow in my 48 years .


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 



Here it'll be the least snowy winter ever!

Well, technically joint least snowy winter ever, as I assume there may have been other winters in the past 4.5 billion years in which not one single flake of snow fell.   But none will have been any less snowy than this one!


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GIBBY
24 February 2014 08:50:48

Good morning. Here is my Monday review of the midnight outputs issued by the NWP for today Monday February 24th 2014 as featured on my website at http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm. I am now including links to the data from which each section of my report is compiled.


All models show a Westerly flow briefly today before an active Low pressure systems streams in off the Atlantic towards NW Britain on Tuesday. So after remaining rain clears it's way across the UK this morning a showery interlude follows before a fast moving spell of rain crosses all areas tonight and Tuesday morning leaving a couple of blustery and showery days towards midweek with fresher temperatures. A new Low then brings rain and wind back over the UK towards the end of the week with some colder air developing with showers turning wintry over Northern hills towards the weekend.


GFS then shows that thereafter a typical changeable regime develops under Westerly winds with some rain at times chiefly in the North with the South staying largely dry close to high pressure to the South. Temperatures generally will return closer to average though still rather chilly in the North between weather systems under NW winds.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php


The GFS Ensembles endorse the operational this morning with a lot of dry and bright weather for Southern areas as High pressure lies to the South and SW. Some rain filters across the North at times from the Atlantic but overall conditions shown are far better than of late.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?code=0&ech=0&mode=0&carte=0


UKMO closes today with next Sunday being a breezy day under NW winds around Low pressure positioned over the North of Scotland and another over Biscay. The weather will be generally unsettled and showery with wintry showers over  high ground. The model has taken a step back by delaying the progression of fine weather early next week following the unsettled weekend.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?nh=0&ech=6&carte=1021


GEM continues to show changeable weather well into next week as further troughs round a High pressure area to the SW with rain at times for many gradually becoming more pronounced to Northern and Western Britain.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?&ech=6&mode=0&carte=0


The GEM Ensembles though changeable to begin with do indicate a lot of dry weather to be found in the South from next weekend on as High pressure ridges NE to be positioned over Britain late in the run. Isolated rain events are shown in the North and while winds be much lighter than of late it will also become rather mild in places later but with an increased risk of night frosts.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/cmc_cartes.php?code=0&ech=0&mode=0&carte=0


NAVGEM today ends it's run with Low pressure well in charge across and around the UK to start next week with further rain at times in a blustery westerly wind and temperatures close to average, at least in the South.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/navgeme_cartes.php?&ech=6&mode=0&carte=0


ECM's operational today has reverted back to a more settled phase of weather next week as High pressure builds strongly from the SW steering rain bearing systems away to the far North and keeping the UK in fine and bright daytime conditions with frosty night probable with light winds.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=0&mode=1&map=0&type=0&archive=0


The ECM 9 and 10 Day Mean Charts look largely similar to those of last night indicating the UK could lie in a weak ridge of High pressure with Low pressure to the NW and High pressure near the Azores with a West flow of air likely over Britain with some fine weather at times, most coherent in the South with average temperatures for all with any rainfall slowly becoming more confined to the NW.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif


The Jet Stream Ensemble group continue to promote a lifting of the flow to higher latitudes across the Atlantic as the Azores High becomes more dominant promoting better weather for Southern areas at last while the North too sees less frequent spells of rain. Overall temperatures remain close to average with a flow on this trajectory NE across the Atlantic and the North of the UK in Week 2.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?code=0&ech=0&mode=3&carte=0


In Summary there still seems strong support for pressure to rise from the west and SW next week. To what extent this occurs is open for debate still as UKMO and NAVGEM for example holds Low pressure over the UK still as late as next Sunday with only marginal improvements suggested at next week from them. ECM and some of the other output shows a much stronger improvement leading to High pressure over the UK later next week with some much welcomed fine and dry conditions for many with some night frosts. I feel there will be plenty more twists and turns as we battle are way through another week of wind and rain at times before perhaps we can look forward to something more akin to early Spring as we move into next week.


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vince
24 February 2014 08:51:05




Thanks Martin.
In the face of unprecedented wind and rain and an almost total lack of anything wintry (except the usual high altitude), you've stuck to the task of dishing out the bad news and I am not alone in appreciating your output.


Originally Posted by: Essan 


^Agree 100% , it certainly has been one of those Winters ,all for the wrong reasons , into the last week and bar any nonsense this will be my first ever D,J,F  without any laying snow in my 48 years .


Originally Posted by: vince 



Here it'll be the least snowy winter ever!

Well, technically joint least snowy winter ever, as I assume there may have been other winters in the past 4.5 billion years in which not one single flake of snow fell.   But none will have been any less snowy than this one!


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


LOL you stalking me

Stormchaser
24 February 2014 09:22:29

It's been a long time since I can last recall seeing a classic 'warm high/cold high' evolution on a model run (other than CFS of course), where a ridge across the UK/Europe brings a run of warm conditions before being drawn up to Greenland to starting bringing some Arctic cold in our direction.


 


That sort of thing only occurs in GFS FI, so all I'm taking from this is that there's a good signal for high pressure to have much more of a say in things beyond this week, and that the Arctic profile has the potential to be suitable for a high-latitude block to evolve from such a ridge should be we so unlucky/lucky (cross out as desired).


Good thing is, that initial ridge now has support from ECM as well. Less sure about UKMO though...


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The Beast from the East
24 February 2014 12:09:19

06z flattens the ridge so it ends up wetter, but then ridges to greenland for a mid march cold spell


 


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Gooner
24 February 2014 13:21:20


06z flattens the ridge so it ends up wetter, but then ridges to greenland for a mid march cold spell


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014022406/gfsnh-0-384.png?6


A small % would be happy with this

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Gavin P
24 February 2014 13:34:04

Hi all,


 


Here's today's video update;


Wettest Winter Since At Least 1766, But Drier Weather Ahead


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Some good news for once with the Azores High seemingly starting to make it's move.


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Hungry Tiger
24 February 2014 15:24:55

There is some nice stuff on GFS.


I would hope we can get well into double figures by day and hopefully hold it.


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Saint Snow
24 February 2014 15:36:47


Some good news for once with the Azores High seemingly starting to make it's move.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



 



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nsrobins
24 February 2014 17:06:57



Some good news for once with the Azores High seemingly starting to make it's move.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



 


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



I concur - the Azores High is only good news in Spring when it can deliver sunshine and warmth.

For the last few days of winter however I will hang on to the frayed remains of the last clutched straw in the forlorn hope the charts promise something to provide some very late interest.



 


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The Beast from the East
24 February 2014 17:21:27

GFS is very dry (IMBY) after this week but UKMO has no sign of the Azores ridge. Flood victims must pray the Azores will rescue us and end the water torture


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014022412/UN144-21.GIF?24-17


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Osprey
24 February 2014 17:27:48




Some good news for once with the Azores High seemingly starting to make it's move.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 



 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



I concur - the Azores High is only good news in Spring when it can deliver sunshine and warmth.

For the last few days of winter however I will hang on to the frayed remains of the last clutched straw in the forlorn hope the charts promise something to provide some very late interest.



Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


 


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Charmhills
24 February 2014 17:40:03


GFS is very dry (IMBY) after this week but UKMO has no sign of the Azores ridge. Flood victims must pray the Azores will rescue us and end the water torture


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014022412/UN144-21.GIF?24-17


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Its been a fairly dry week for most with most of the flooding now draining away and many rivers have or/are returning to normal.


Its going to take some significant rainfall to return to the flooding situation we had.


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Gooner
24 February 2014 17:48:49



GFS is very dry (IMBY) after this week but UKMO has no sign of the Azores ridge. Flood victims must pray the Azores will rescue us and end the water torture


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014022412/UN144-21.GIF?24-17


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 



Its been a fairly dry week for most with most of the flooding now draining away and many rivers have or/are returning to normal.


Its going to take some significant rainfall to return to the flooding situation we had.


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Dry or not here ,the rivers are still very high and an awful lot of water laying across fields, a decent rainfall and we will be back to square one


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nsrobins
24 February 2014 17:48:49



GFS is very dry (IMBY) after this week but UKMO has no sign of the Azores ridge. Flood victims must pray the Azores will rescue us and end the water torture


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014022412/UN144-21.GIF?24-17


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 



Its been a fairly dry week for most with most of the flooding now draining away and many rivers have or/are returning to normal.


Its going to take some significant rainfall to return to the flooding situation we had.


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I wouldn't be certain about that. The surface flooding may be easing but groundwater remains very high and additional rain will not soak away very easily yet.


Neil
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Gooner
24 February 2014 17:50:36


Hi all,


 


Here's today's video update;


Wettest Winter Since At Least 1766, But Drier Weather Ahead


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Some good news for once with the Azores High seemingly starting to make it's move.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


I think the Azores high might well be short lived , there isnt much in the 30 dayer to suggest a settled period


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
24 February 2014 17:55:44
Very much a case that the UKMO regularly is following GFS Closely at 00hrs to upto 144hrs, the pattern is not Very Wet, but with West SW winds and also NW or cyclonic variable moderate to fresh winds- at least it does not look Very bad for the UK during next 7 days, but it does look cold and Wintry in the West and also in the North, with wintry weather possible.

The outlook keeps us in West SW to East NE flowing n. Atlantic Flows, and the cold air moves away from the West and SW UK, though the North and nE Parts keep their colder weather safe, the main cold waves move way out to our SW in East mid N Atlantic Sea to SW Europe- gets modified by the time it gets there.

Plumes of milder air always lapping across UK South and SW, from W Mid N Atlantic, as Deep low P. Moves from USA to NW and n Central Atlantic with cold air over NE USA and over SE Canada plus cold High pressure over Greenland- keep the far NW and North Atlantic much colder with West and NW plunges, while West to East to UK pulses of less cold air is pumped in from there SW side!!.

This winter is over but there were lots of floods and Scottlish hills were and have always been the main places this winter for Snow lovers and fans!.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
24 February 2014 19:09:36
Well, maybe at t144 to t168 Sundaymand Monday Cold and Wintry Airmass from the N Atlantic could bring some winter frost and snow showers still is in the UKMO and in ECMWF 12z run, it shows (ECMWF) Tuesday mild windy wet Deep Low Track across the UK and then by Wednesday at 240hrs cold Low pressure with Westerly flow strong chill winds heavy rain or showers possible.

T144 and t168 differ on the GFS is it not wanting UKMO and ECMWF cold Returning Polar NW then Westerly, and possible frosty nights as well.

Thursday and Friday look less mild with some hill snow showers rain lower down, as Low pressure heads across and SE exits to France and the Mediterranean, at 96 to 120hrs.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Gooner
24 February 2014 19:25:04

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png


Could go any way after the 3rd


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