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eastcoaster
08 May 2015 08:41:50


 


...and it's his business entirely. Was just pointing out that if TWO is representative of the bigger picture the Lib Dems may end up having a much better night than the polls suggest.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


This is from last night, but if there was any ever doubt that TWO is unrepresentative of the bigger picture I think Brian's post sums it up! 


 

Charmhills
08 May 2015 08:42:14

Anybody seen Beast!


Is he crying a river in Corydon Central yet!


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Arcus
08 May 2015 08:49:17


 


This is from last night, but if there was any ever doubt that TWO is unrepresentative of the bigger picture I think Brian's post sums it up! 


 


Originally Posted by: eastcoaster 


Yes, the decimation of the Lib Dems in the SW in particular is amazing. There were a few Labour gains from the Lib Dems, but mostly the Conservatives mopped up the anti Lib Dem sentiment. An abject lesson in how to ruin an opposition party - go into coalition with them as the junior partner. 


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xioni2
08 May 2015 08:59:57


What a pickle Labour is in now. It has to move back towards the Blairite centre to regain ground in the UK but must turn left in Scotland.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Exactly, not to mention the boundary changes that the Tories will now apply making it even harder for Labour to win in 2020. A pure Tory government will also entrench the SNP dominance in Scotland, so the centre left will again be split three-ways.


Only a great leader could save Labour but there doesn't seem to be any, in fact most of the candidates look even worse than Red Ed.


Even though I am a lib dem supporter and also I can see the constitutional risks that this country is now facing, somehow I feel optimistic today. The Tories could be quite good with the economy (they will have no excuses now), plus the country will finally get to have a say on the EU membership which should settle the matter for our generation.


 


 


 

Maunder Minimum
08 May 2015 09:02:00


 


Yes, the decimation of the Lib Dems in the SW in particular is amazing. There were a few Labour gains from the Lib Dems, but mostly the Conservatives mopped up the anti Lib Dem sentiment. An abject lesson in how to ruin an opposition party - go into coalition with them as the junior partner. 


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


That is unfortunate. The LDs did the right thing in 2010, they were solid in Government and now they have been severely punished for their toruble.


It makes it incredibly unlikely that any minor party would want to join one of the bigger parties in Government in the future.


Recall all the speculation about the SNP getting into bed with Labour (which Miliband ruled out)? In the hypothetical situation hwere the SNP had gone into coalition with Labour, it would no doubt have destroyed them in the same way.


New world order coming.
Darren S
08 May 2015 09:02:15

Unfortunately, Labour held Hampstead by the skin of their teeth.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


By the skin of their Hampsteads, surely? 


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warrenb
08 May 2015 09:12:06
Labour lost this when Ed gave the answer "NO" to a well known question on the Question Time programme.

As I have said all along, online polls are rubbish for this sort of thing, I won't go into all the details of why, but when the exit poll came out (interviewed by people to people) I knew then how this was going.
NickR
08 May 2015 09:13:12


What a pickle Labour is in now. It has to move back towards the Blairite centre to regain ground in the UK but must turn left in Scotland.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I said this a few weeks ago, but the only way is to separate Scottish Labour from Labour and make Scottish politics similar to NI. Any future Labour govt would then effectively be a coalition between two putatively different parties.


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Maunder Minimum
08 May 2015 09:22:48

One of the many joys this morning is seeing the silly celebs confounded by the result.



All those silly, Labour supporting celebrities have got their answer - the British people have more common sense in their little fingers, than all the silly celebrities put together!


Big thanks to - Stan Collymore, Steve Coogan, Russell Brand, Eddie Izzard, The Hobbit & Owen Jones. A great help keeping Labour away from government.


Oh and Delia Smith too!


New world order coming.
KevBrads1
08 May 2015 09:22:54

I think this result for Labour is as bad as 1983 for them.My reasoning is how many senior  Labour MPs that have gone. 


In 1992, Labour gained seats and the shock was not winning. This election they lost MPs and senior ones at that, Alexander, Murphy, Curran, Balls.


A body blow.


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Darren S
08 May 2015 09:32:34

Thanet South now....


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Charmhills
08 May 2015 09:32:59


One of the many joys this morning is seeing the silly celebs confounded by the result.



All those silly, Labour supporting celebrities have got their answer - the British people have more common sense in their little fingers, than all the silly celebrities put together!


Big thanks to - Stan Collymore, Steve Coogan, Russell Brand, Eddie Izzard, The Hobbit & Owen Jones. A great help keeping Labour away from government.


Oh and Delia Smith too!


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Most satisfying.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Justin W
08 May 2015 09:34:25

Farage... loses!


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Maunder Minimum
08 May 2015 09:34:25


Thanet South now....


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


I would actually like Farage to get that.


P.S. Oh, he lost!


New world order coming.
Arcus
08 May 2015 09:35:59
3 party leaders to resign on same day?
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Brian Gaze
08 May 2015 09:39:10


I think this result for Labour is as bad as 1983 for them.My reasoning is how many senior  Labour MPs that have gone. 


In 1992, Labour gained seats and the shock was not winning. This election they lost MPs and senior ones at that, Alexander, Murphy, Curran, Balls.


A body blow.


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


I think you're wrong. The result is worse for them than 1983. The Scottish situation and the unpredicted Tory success is a hammer blow for Labour. In much of the UK they are now nothing more than a pressure group. A poor one at that!


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NickR
08 May 2015 09:39:19
Without Farage, I think this will prove to be UKIP's high water mark in terms of share of the vote. Every cloud...
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Maunder Minimum
08 May 2015 09:45:12

Without Farage, I think this will prove to be UKIP's high water mark in terms of share of the vote. Every cloud...

Originally Posted by: NickR 


Cameron with a Conservative only Government behind him, should be able to play hardball with the EU.


He needs some proper concessions to offer the voting public prior to the 2017 EU referendum which will now certainly take place.


That makes UKIP largely irrelevant now.


New world order coming.
xioni2
08 May 2015 09:47:35

Without Farage, I think this will prove to be UKIP's high water mark in terms of share of the vote. Every cloud...

Originally Posted by: NickR 


 


Only to make the Tories even more dominant on the right!

Justin W
08 May 2015 09:47:53


 


I think you're wrong. The result is worse for them than 1983. The Scottish situation and the unpredicted Tory success is a hammer blow for Labour. In much of the UK they are now nothing more than a pressure group. A poor one at that!


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


I agree, it is a catastrophic result for Labour. The party has no choice but to get back to a Blairite agenda with a leader who doesn't frighten Middle England or provoke ridicule in the media. I really don't know what they do about Scotland other than hope the SNP screws it up over the next few years but given their organisation and professionalism, I can't see the Nats letting this slip.


Edit: I can't help but admire the Scots and the SNP. They have played a blinder and really deserve to wield influence on the executive at Westminster, not just in the legislature. All those of us who hold the union dear, must hope that Cameron ignores the swivel-eyed fringe in his party and somehow works with the SNP to give Scotland a greater say in how our union is run.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
SEMerc
08 May 2015 09:49:24

One of the best moments of the night was watching the Welsh Windbag criticising the electorate for being unable to make the right decision! He pretty much said we are duplicitous and can't be trusted.

Originally Posted by: eastcoaster 


That's what happens when you spend too much time in Brussels.

bowser
08 May 2015 09:51:45

Without Farage, I think this will prove to be UKIP's high water mark in terms of share of the vote. Every cloud...

Originally Posted by: NickR 


Possibly. The others in the party simply don't have any gravitas. However, I think this will turn out to be a tough term for the Tories, so perceptions may change very quickly.


 

Maunder Minimum
08 May 2015 09:52:51


I agree, it is a catastrophic result for Labour. The party has no choice but to get back to a Blairite agenda with a leader who doesn't frighten Middle England or provoke ridicule in the media. I really don't know what they do about Scotland other than hope the SNP screws it up over the next few years but given their organisation and professionalism, I can't see the Nats letting this slip.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I don't know where Beast is this morning. He was always so dismissive about Dan Hodges in the Telegraph, but he has been proved right about everything apart from the level of UKIP support, which he thought would be in single figures. He was spot on about Miliband's Labour however.


Dan of course would like the elder brother to return from across the water - but I don't see how that would be possible.


New world order coming.
Justin W
08 May 2015 09:55:32

And that's it - the Tories have a working majority.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?

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