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scillydave
29 January 2019 15:56:47
Heavy snow settling on all surfaces following a period of heavy rain.
Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.
Rob K
29 January 2019 15:59:47

ICON 12Z snow accumulation looking good here for Thursday night.


 


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Russwirral
29 January 2019 16:02:49

Icon has developed a 2nd snowy front working into devon and cornwall. One to watch.


 


Correction - that was in thr ARPGE


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Jim-55
29 January 2019 16:11:10

Although the temperature has dropped to 1.8C the snow has turned to rain, for now not cold enough aloft.


 

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JACKO4EVER
29 January 2019 16:13:10
First sleety flakes in the rain here though it is very wet with puddles everywhere so if we do get any snow it may be difficult for it to settle
Jim-55
29 January 2019 16:44:50

Just had 10 minutes of very heavy snow with 50p sized flakes but yet again turns back to rain.

Previously JimC. joined back then in 2009. Frome, N/E Somerset, 125mtrs asl.
JACKO4EVER
29 January 2019 17:23:43
Back to rain here now
Bugglesgate
29 January 2019 17:45:40

I can't see this amounting to much snow wise IMBY. 


Even if it turned to snow now (which it shows no signs of doing)    the RADAR   doesn't show much heading in our direction - some light stuff and only an odd bit of orange.  I think ice is going to be the real problem   tomorrow  morning


 

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Russwirral
29 January 2019 17:57:28
Meto forecasting heavy snow for much pf overnight so too is bbc. Though meto is not making much of thursday/ fri which is dissapointing.

Im hoping this is finally our time to see snowfall.

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JACKO4EVER
29 January 2019 17:59:56
Some very wet snow here now, nothing too heavy but it’s unlikely to settle at present
Saint Snow
29 January 2019 18:02:24


 


 


As for Thursday's PPN and the northern extent:


 


Arpege - Wrexham to Stoke to Nottingham to Grantham


GFS - Lancaster to York


Icon - initially Chester to Sheffield to Lincoln, but then pivots to spread snow to Manchester and Yorkshire


 


I need the GFS solution to be correct!!


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


GFS maintains the more northerly track, whilst Icon inches the extent a touch further north.


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Clare
29 January 2019 18:02:42
Just drizzly rain here in mid Sussex ..bah !
On the Mid Sussex downs,156m amsl on ridge near Ardingly. Igloo built in our garden,2010, lasted till march !
Jeff
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29 January 2019 18:05:35

 


Despite a 2m temp of 2-3c, the potential spoiler tonight is the layer of >0c temps between the ground and upto 750m ASL (925hPa) in the atmosphere above SE England. However, the low over France is having the effect of sending colder air from the SE towards us, perhaps arriving just as the heavier rain arrives. This might be the key together  with evaporative cooling, plus there seems quite a convergence developing 


Take a look here:


 


https://www.ventusky.com/?p=50.3;-0.4;5&l=temperature-925hpa


 


Jeff


 

On the East/West Sussex Border
70m ASL
Bugglesgate
29 January 2019 18:10:21

Temps now  0.8 Deg here with wet snow.   A slushy few mm settling - barely making the grass white.   Very light now and the  RADAR suggests that's about it bar some snizzle !


 


 


 

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
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Quantum
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29 January 2019 18:12:21

I'd love to see a high resolution precip type radar of this front. Based on reports it seems that the entire thing is a complete mixture with tiny local pockets of rain, sleet, and snow. Many reports of rain->snow->rain->snow type stuff going on. Tremendous dissapointment all round

2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
ballamar
29 January 2019 18:17:28


 


Despite a 2m temp of 2-3c, the potential spoiler tonight is the layer of >0c temps between the ground and upto 750m ASL (925hPa) in the atmosphere above SE England. However, the low over France is having the effect of sending colder air from the SE towards us, perhaps arriving just as the heavier rain arrives. This might be the key together  with evaporative cooling, plus there seems quite a convergence developing 


Take a look here:


 


https://www.ventusky.com/?p=50.3;-0.4;5&l=temperature-925hpa


 


Jeff


 


Originally Posted by: Jeff 


 


i think this demonstrates nicely why the rain more readily turns to snow over the continent 

tallyho_83
29 January 2019 18:22:51

Wait isn't Matt Taylor showing all of southern England Except Cornwall covering in snow Thursday morning!?



YET Exeter or Dartmoor/Exmoor get's no accumulation?


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Shropshire
29 January 2019 18:24:49

UKMO  and ECM barely get the PPN North of London as far as I can see and even then it doesn't seem much.


The GFS has been so consistent at much further North so it's a head scrather at only T48.


 

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tallyho_83
29 January 2019 18:36:10

This is clearer - shows all of Devon in the white? - which wasn't the case a day or so back!?


Now this must be the fact that the LP taking a more southerly track?


 

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Russwirral
29 January 2019 18:44:30


 


 


GFS maintains the more northerly track, whilst Icon inches the extent a touch further north.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Aye the pivot point was mid wales this morning. Seems to have shift to north wales. Where ever geta that pivot...hits the jackpot. 15cm plus


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cultman1
29 January 2019 19:11:07

heavy rain in fulham tonight .... I would add that whilst the weather forecast was recently updated  as marginal  for snow in our area I was really expecting  snow potential as local forecasts from LBC and BBC Radio London  including transport for london's own warnings were  indicating snow later on this evening and to be prepared...

Whether Idle
29 January 2019 19:27:22


 


 


i think this demonstrates nicely why the rain more readily turns to snow over the continent 


Originally Posted by: ballamar 


It is sleeting up on the hills here as I just drove in, temp here is falling (Im at sea level on the coast) and is at 2.7/1.4c.  So yes, cold air is being drawn in here already. Temp has dropped by 1 degree c in past hour and 20m

Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Jeff
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29 January 2019 20:11:12
Temp fell to 2.2c at around 7pm but its just started raining heavily and is now 2.7c. DP steady at 2c. Netweather radar says its snowing, but it isn’t ..yet.

Jeff
On the East/West Sussex Border
70m ASL
Clare
29 January 2019 20:23:25
Jeff..just started wet snow here now....nr Ardingly..
On the Mid Sussex downs,156m amsl on ridge near Ardingly. Igloo built in our garden,2010, lasted till march !
Whether Idle
29 January 2019 20:24:05

Temp fell to 2.2c at around 7pm but its just started raining heavily and is now 2.7c. DP steady at 2c. Netweather radar says its snowing, but it isn’t ..yet.

Jeff

Originally Posted by: Jeff 


Temp has dropped more slowly - now 2.5/1.3

Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.

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