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Weathermac
27 January 2020 11:17:40


GFS deepest FI 6z looks extremely interesting - had to mention as it will have cleared off on the 12z



Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Hopefully GFS is onto something that's 3 runs in a row showing colder weather at the end albeit la la land .

Russwirral
27 January 2020 11:19:04
Really decent 2nd half output from the 6z GFS

Mid atlantic block leaning towards northern blocking. Nothing massive cold in this output, but ive seen similar synoptic output much colder.

Alot of promise on this run... quite rare this winter.
Gusty
27 January 2020 11:36:57

A real good look about this at 336. A long way to go though.



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tallyho_83
27 January 2020 12:03:41


A real good look about this at 336. A long way to go though.



Originally Posted by: Gusty 


 


What we need to happen??



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TimS
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27 January 2020 12:23:59
Looks like my winter is over thread may have had the required effect.

Now need to start a “South Africa could win this” thread somewhere.
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JACKO4EVER
27 January 2020 12:37:02
So jam tomorrow for the first time this winter, albeit deep in FI. It will be gone later, but still nice to see.
fairweather
27 January 2020 14:18:29

Looks like my winter is over thread may have had the required effect.

Now need to start a “South Africa could win this” thread somewhere.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


No, I'm claiming the credit with my "little excitement about the pub run" post 


In fact a cold spell is now actually more likely now than South Africa winning the Test!


S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
27 January 2020 14:20:27

So jam tomorrow for the first time this winter, albeit deep in FI. It will be gone later, but still nice to see.

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Yes the old buttered toast has been a bit bare this winter. 


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tallyho_83
27 January 2020 15:06:30


 


Yes the old buttered toast has been a bit bare this winter. 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


NAO finally goes negative (albeit weakely) for first time this winter tomorrow which coincides with this brief colder snap for tonight, tomorrow and Wednesday...


 



 


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Surrey John
27 January 2020 15:53:43

The Ensembles are showing a lack of consistency from Tuesday next week.  


There is a 15°c spread of temperatures for second half of plot


The only definite thing, is can't all be approx correct


 


http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


 


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idj20
27 January 2020 16:57:00

In terms of wintry prospects, it is hard to get excited about what looks like a "toppler" type set-up in the medium time frame but if it gives my end of the wood some crisp sunny days with much reduced humidity, then that may give me less cause for complaint. Has to be better than the current dirge that are overcast skies, rain and 9 c under an onshore wind.


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doctormog
27 January 2020 17:16:27
Yes, there is starting to be a recurring trend in the medium term. Too far aware for any real interest or confidence but worth keeping an eye on.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPUK12_18_53.png  (and yes I am being sarcastic)
Saint Snow
27 January 2020 17:19:17


 


It'd be jolly nice!


 


 


 


 



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doctormog
27 January 2020 17:28:35


 


It'd be jolly nice!


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 Wouldn’t it!  The only thing that makes me pay any notice is the timescale. Some of the higher resolution output suggest something wet rather than white unfortunately (for both of us).


Tim A
27 January 2020 18:03:42
Euro 4 looks a little odd with the pixels but shows some snow tonight in places
https://expert-images.images-weatheronline.com/daten/proficharts/web/en/2020/01/27/basis12/ukuk/weas/20012806_2712.gif 

Above 200m in N England I would have thought. Such a poor winter. One similar event in December and that has been it.
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nsrobins
27 January 2020 18:08:46
Something might be stirring medium term with the best (not saying much) amplification so far this season being modelled from next weekend on. GEM a decent pick of them with enough of a push in heights north to deliver -10 across the East.
It’s very early days but one to watch.
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ballamar
27 January 2020 18:10:17
Few colder snaps on the ENS appearing - if the warming disrupts the PV enough could finally be some decent winter weather
Hippydave
27 January 2020 18:28:55

P2 clearly has the best handle on things


P2 aside, to me the GFS ens are showing at best a few fleeting Northerlies courtesy of HP slumping around just to our West. Better than what we've generally had (today's little blip for some aside) but not more than a few crumbs from the winter table.


I think the best thing that can be said is that the Atlantic looks to be running out of a little steam, with HP more prevalent in the longer term so it might not be quite so unremittingly wet, which will be something


 


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squish
27 January 2020 22:33:00
Nice 18z thus far! 🙂
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BJBlake
27 January 2020 23:55:50
I think this coincides with a Buchan cold spell, and very welcome it is too. All a bit transitory, but the gloopy Azores high gets squished about by the heavier cold air plunges - still directed by a strongish but more southerly orientated jet. Bit of a pattern repeat going on with the upgraded 18z, but we need to see a block now to let the cold pool and grow some roots. Then we might see a snow fest as the Atlantic tries to nibble at the heavy weight cold pool...I can dream...but it's a start. More runs needed.
Has the QBO changed switched?
Brecklands, South Norfolk 28m ASL
tallyho_83
28 January 2020 00:00:38

Well only a few days ago February was meant to start off mild ....but looking at the GFS ENS inc the operational/control etc...looks like there is growing support for a northerly blast end of 1st week of February around 5th or 6th but it's still FI:


ECMWF:



GEM:



Operational:



 


Control



P02:



P04:



P12:



P17



P18



 


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nsrobins
28 January 2020 06:32:37
Although a northerly of sorts may be on the radar next week, the usual precautions apply plus of course my mantra in these situations - beware Trojan GFS runs bearing gifts.
Sorry if I sound like a stuck record but until the UKM extended starts to lean towards it then it remains simply a whim in 180hr+ model space.
Neil
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marco 79
28 January 2020 07:14:45
Definitive drop in the GFS ENS around 4th Feb..especially for Northern UK..not looking like a sustained colder spell at the minute..but hayho... I'll take it all day long compared to the dross fest so far this winter
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DEW
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28 January 2020 07:15:49

Besides a dubious northerly, some cold air from the east is heading this way in week 2 http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4 tough that's a long way off temporally and geographcally. Perhaps a little encouragement from the behaviour of the jet stream which continues westerly until Mon 3rd and then loops a lot, with a tendency to put the UK under a northerly flow - though back to westerly at end of run on Wed 12th.


For the charts here and now, GFS westerly flow, not that vigorous, until Tue 4th; then a weak northerly until Tue 11th though for the second half of that week the 'northerly' air is coming round the top of the Atlantic high rather than down from the Arctic. Finally back to zonal on Wed 12th with HP over the Netherlands. Better for coldies than anything recent but still not much to catch hold of.


ECM similar to Tue 4th then brings in the northerly with LP running down the N Sea, but then positions the subsequent HP over UK rather than in the Atlantic, really cutting off supply of Arctic air.


After  a damp and mild spell 1st - 4th Feb, temps take a dip below normal until Sun 9th (not shown yesterday; more like 7th in the north) then resume close to normal. On the dry side after 4th.


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doctormog
28 January 2020 07:39:57
It may be brief and jam tomorrow and, based on GFS performance, unlikely to come to fruition but it is quite a potent northerly that has been modelled several times for Feb 5th from that model:

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU00_204_33.png 

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