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Roger Parsons
12 February 2020 08:44:18


Who's going to call it 'covid-19'? What about Sussex Flu? Especially as there's now a self-isolation case (i.e. precautionary, not confirmed) associated with Worthing hospital; not stated whether worker or visitor. EDIT now stated to be someone working in A&E who was in contact with a 'small number' of patients


Steve Walsh, the superspreader, seems to be a sensible sort of person and not inclined to exploit the media. The worries about local schools seem to be associated with his role as Scout leader but his immediate family in Sussex (in contrast to the friends in the Alps where he stopped on the way home) seem not to have picked up the infection. 


Not enough is yet known to go beyond recommending "basic hygiene and don't go to the surgery f you suspect you have it"  but health authorities do themselves no favours by refusing to come on the media and admitting ignorance. That merely stokes conspiracy theories which are worse than an admission of limited knowledge.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Corvid-19 would have allowed a logo to be a Raven - think of the use to which that image could have been put. Memorable.


https://www.reddit.com/r/corvids/comments/d4f09g/corvid_memes_make_me_smile/


Nevermore!



 

RogerP
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Gandalf The White
12 February 2020 09:04:35


Who's going to call it 'covid-19'?


Originally Posted by: DEW 


The WHO explained that naming is actually very important. People with little or no understanding are, apparently, prone to overreacting.  They seek to avoid creating scapegoats. Just think, given the examples already seen, if it was called ‘Chinese flu’.

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Brian Gaze
12 February 2020 09:11:50


 


I’m assuming you are being flippant so will respond in the same way.


It would solve a lot of the world’s problems. 3.5 billion people instead of 7 billion.


Just as long as Trump and Cummings are amongst the unlucky ones.


😉


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 Sorry I was doing my best to impersonate some of the other contributors. 

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Roger Parsons
12 February 2020 09:22:48


The WHO explained that naming is actually very important. People with little or no understanding are, apparently, prone to overreacting.  They seek to avoid creating scapegoats. Just think, given the examples already seen, if it was called ‘Chinese flu’.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


No one went for my "Metal Rat 'Flu", but it did have a ring to it. R.

RogerP
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William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
The Beast from the East
12 February 2020 10:13:12


 


The WHO explained that naming is actually very important. People with little or no understanding are, apparently, prone to overreacting.  They seek to avoid creating scapegoats. Just think, given the examples already seen, if it was called ‘Chinese flu’.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Spanish Flu actually originated from a pig farm in America, many experts believe


For me, the most interesting aspect of this story is human behaviour and hysteria. We've already seen a big drop in Chinese takeaways. Anecdotal Reports of Chinese looking people being abused on public transport by English yobs. We are living in the era of idiocracy, fuelled by the popular press. It could be quite easy to whip up mob mentality and send a group of Tommy Robinson types to smash up Wing Yip supermarkets


 

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Sevendust
12 February 2020 10:42:55


 


 Sorry I was doing my best to impersonate some of the other contributors. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Where is Q?

Saint Snow
12 February 2020 10:53:46


 


Where is Q?


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


 


His WiFi signal is a bit patchy in his underground bunker.


 


 


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Gandalf The White
12 February 2020 11:28:46


 


 Sorry I was doing my best to impersonate some of the other contributors. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


ROFL. I should have known!


Meanwhile another potential case in Singapore, this time in the country’s biggest bank in a office.


We’re flying out tonight. Not sure if they have Internet in the quarantine centres.... 😉

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Maunder Minimum
12 February 2020 11:42:30


 


ROFL. I should have known!


Meanwhile another potential case in Singapore, this time in the country’s biggest bank in a office.


We’re flying out tonight. Not sure if they have Internet in the quarantine centres.... 😉


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51470363


Around 300 employees have been evacuated from Singapore's biggest bank, DBS, after one person fell ill with the new coronavirus.


All 300 had been working on the same floor, the 43rd, and were sent home on Wednesday.

New world order coming.
Ulric
12 February 2020 12:12:24


I’m assuming you are being flippant so will respond in the same way.


It would solve a lot of the world’s problems. 3.5 billion people instead of 7 billion.


Just as long as Trump and Cummings are amongst the unlucky ones.


😉


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


A cytokine storm is a real thing.

To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Brian Gaze
12 February 2020 12:25:32

Markets seem to think peak Corona could have been reached.

Brian Gaze
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Bugglesgate
12 February 2020 12:32:35


Markets seem to think peak Corona could have been reached.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


Given the mayhem in China I think peak markets have been reached.


 


 

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Saint Snow
12 February 2020 12:34:49


Markets seem to think peak Corona could have been reached.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


Damn, does this mean oil prices are going to rise again?


 


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Gandalf The White
12 February 2020 12:37:31


 


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51470363


Around 300 employees have been evacuated from Singapore's biggest bank, DBS, after one person fell ill with the new coronavirus.


All 300 had been working on the same floor, the 43rd, and were sent home on Wednesday.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I reported that in the post above yours, 15 minutes ago.


You never did let me know if you regarded the virus as ‘out of control’ in the UK as the number of cases doubled? Assumed you would confirm that given your earlier comment about Singapore.

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Gandalf The White
12 February 2020 12:39:57


 


 


Damn, does this mean oil prices are going to rise again?


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

 


With large swathes of the Chinese economy shut down or running below normal I doubt that demand for oil will pick up for a while.

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Maunder Minimum
12 February 2020 12:50:09


 


You never did let me know if you regarded the virus as ‘out of control’ in the UK as the number of cases doubled? Assumed you would confirm that given your earlier comment about Singapore.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Singapore has 50 confirmed cases now - so the current situation there is of an order of magnitude greater than in the UK.


However, given the ease with which the UK visitor to Singapore managed to spread the virus around Europe, I would suspect that the number of carriers in both Singapore and the UK is larger than the authorities admit or know about. The UK carrier has stated that he had no symptoms, whilst he was merrily infecting all and sundry with the virus, which indicates that the chances are preventing a pandemic are about nil.


 

New world order coming.
bowser
12 February 2020 13:05:24


Markets seem to think peak Corona could have been reached.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Amazing what central bank "injections" can do and an algo driven market which probably takes the Chinese figures at face value.

Perthite1
12 February 2020 13:06:25


 


 


Given the mayhem in China I think peak markets have been reached.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


Dont worry, as soon as it looks like the market is going to go down more than a couple of % central banks pump the system with billions of $. 

Maunder Minimum
12 February 2020 13:06:46

Just reported in The Times:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/diamond-princess-crew-plead-for-help-as-coronavirus-spreads-7g3wqm566


 


"...


Dozens more people quarantined on a cruise ship in Japan have been diagnosed with coronavirus, including two new British cases, as the ship’s crew become increasingly rebellious about their vulnerability to infection.


Thirty-nine more people on the British-registered cruise ship Diamond Princess have been confirmed with Covid-19, the name now given to the illness caused by coronavirus, as well as one Japanese official who had the job of testing people on the vessel.


...


The authorities will be particularly anxious about the infection of one of their own, a male quarantine officer who succumbed after conducting health questionnaires and performing temperature checks on passengers on the night of the ship’s arrival in Yokohama on February 3.


The officer did not have a protective suit or goggles but wore a mask and gloves and disinfected his hands after every encounter with a passenger, the health ministry said. His case suggests the ease with which the virus can be transmitted, especially to those working closely with potential patients.


..."

New world order coming.
Gandalf The White
12 February 2020 13:23:44


 


Singapore has 50 confirmed cases now - so the current situation there is of an order of magnitude greater than in the UK.


However, given the ease with which the UK visitor to Singapore managed to spread the virus around Europe, I would suspect that the number of carriers in both Singapore and the UK is larger than the authorities admit or know about. The UK carrier has stated that he had no symptoms, whilst he was merrily infecting all and sundry with the virus, which indicates that the chances are preventing a pandemic are about nil.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


So, paraphrasing, you think it’s out of control in the UK.


I think there’s clearly a risk but predominantly from people carrying the virus but not displaying any obvious symptoms.  If this guy from Brighton was typical there’d be many more cases by now - but there aren’t.


I know you like to be scornful of my caution but I see no value in making unsubstantiated predictions.


In any event nothing we write will make a jot of difference.

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speckledjim
12 February 2020 13:29:50


Just reported in The Times:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/diamond-princess-crew-plead-for-help-as-coronavirus-spreads-7g3wqm566


 


"...


Dozens more people quarantined on a cruise ship in Japan have been diagnosed with coronavirus, including two new British cases, as the ship’s crew become increasingly rebellious about their vulnerability to infection.


Thirty-nine more people on the British-registered cruise ship Diamond Princess have been confirmed with Covid-19, the name now given to the illness caused by coronavirus, as well as one Japanese official who had the job of testing people on the vessel.


...


The authorities will be particularly anxious about the infection of one of their own, a male quarantine officer who succumbed after conducting health questionnaires and performing temperature checks on passengers on the night of the ship’s arrival in Yokohama on February 3.


The officer did not have a protective suit or goggles but wore a mask and gloves and disinfected his hands after every encounter with a passenger, the health ministry said. His case suggests the ease with which the virus can be transmitted, especially to those working closely with potential patients.


..."


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


According to the cruise operator the ship is being released from quarantine on Feb 19th so are these 39 cases new or are they part of the total of 175?

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Gandalf The White
12 February 2020 13:30:59


 


Amazing what central bank "injections" can do and an algo driven market which probably takes the Chinese figures at face value.


Originally Posted by: bowser 


You think the algorithms are built to deal with an outbreak of a novel virus? 

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Gandalf The White
12 February 2020 13:32:34


 


 


According to the cruise operator the ship is being released from quarantine on Feb 19th so are these 39 cases new or are they part of the total of 175?


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


I thought I read that it was a rolling 14 days after the last reported case?

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speckledjim
12 February 2020 13:39:39


 


I thought I read that it was a rolling 14 days after the last reported case?


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I saw it on a video tweet posted 10 hours ago by the company's executive vice president - it may have changed since

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
The Beast from the East
12 February 2020 14:12:58


 


 If this guy from Brighton was typical there’d be many more cases by now - but there aren’t.


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I think there are but people are not presenting, because symptoms are in most cases no different to normal cold/mild flu symptoms, so they assume they have a normal illness


Others may not want to make themselves known for fear of being locked in isolation for weeks. I certainly wouldn't come forward, unless I was at deaths door


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President

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