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Bolty
23 February 2020 14:22:44


 


If people run around like headless chickens some of these things may indeed happen. Given much of the nonsense that normally spreads on social media the real danger is the perception of risk not the actual threat (if that makes sense). I’m just glad we don’t react to the much more prevalent and established flu viruses in the same way.


Referring to a point Chris made, in reality if the virus was more deadly it would almost certainly spread more slowly. The most deadly viruses quite often tend to be self-limiting. The biggest threat would be one that mutated to become very slow acting, highly contagious and with high mortality. Thankfully Covid-19 doesn’t fit that description based on all available evidence.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


The second paragraph is bang on. Self-limiting illnesses like the cold and flu spread like wildfire but they don't do you any real damage. They knock you down for a few days, but you're OK in the end, unless you are old, very young or have some underlying health problem. High lethality diseases on the other hand are hard to contract. Ebola for instance, has a 60% lethality rate but you need very close and sustained contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person to get infected yourself.


Some hellish combination of the two (the infectivity of COVID-19 and the lethality of Ebola) would be the largest crisis humanity has ever faced. If such a thing ever did develop, I'd imagine by now there would be a complete shutdown of all international travel (even daily life would now be severely restricted, to be honest).


As for COVID-19, there's now a reason for the Italians to be concerned, but not worried. Even on a European scale, I'm not concerned at this stage. I'm pretty sure the Italian authorities will put a lid on it fairly quickly, especially with school and workplace shutdowns being called.


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ozone_aurora
23 February 2020 17:24:27

4 cruise ship passengers flown to Britain yesterday have tested positive for coronavirus, bringing the total number of UK cases to 13.

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23 February 2020 18:01:03


4 cruise ship passengers flown to Britain yesterday have tested positive for coronavirus, bringing the total number of UK cases to 13.


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 

The report I heard said none of the four were showing any symptoms.  I expect we’ll be hearing more about this.


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Joe Bloggs
23 February 2020 19:04:45

It’s worth noting that a return flight from Manchester to Singapore on Tuesday (2 week holiday) with Air France is £361 at the moment. Via the Kayak app.


Because of this virus there will be some absolute bargain flight prices over the next few weeks and possibly months, especially if you book last minute. 


Every cloud and all that. 



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xioni2
23 February 2020 19:21:46


It’s worth noting that a return flight from Manchester to Singapore on Tuesday (2 week holiday) with Air France is £361 at the moment. Via the Kayak app.


Because of this virus there will be some absolute bargain flight prices over the next few weeks and possibly months, especially if you book last minute. 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Joe Bloggs
23 February 2020 19:28:57


 



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


hahahhahahaha.


 


In all seriousness, it could be a very cost effective time to book a last minute holiday in Asia. 



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23 February 2020 20:04:04

You might not even need a return  


Maunder Minimum
23 February 2020 20:13:02


4 cruise ship passengers flown to Britain yesterday have tested positive for coronavirus, bringing the total number of UK cases to 13.


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


Cruises in the region should have been stopped at the outset - dereliction of duty on behalf of the WHO that did not happen.


Well, things are spiralling towards a full scale pandemic - South Korea, Iran, Italy. Turkey, Pakistan and Afghanstan have all closed their borders with Iran, but it is going to be too late - I simply do not believe that the virus is not already established in Pakistan and as for Iraq - no hope. Once the virus gets into Syria, then it will spread throughout the refugee camps like wildfire and then be spread via people heading elsewhere.


Austria and France are seriously considering suspending Schengen and closing their borders with Italy.


 


New world order coming.
Devonian
23 February 2020 20:14:19


 


Cruises in the region should have been stopped at the outset - dereliction of duty on behalf of the WHO that did not happen.


Well, things are spiralling towards a full scale pandemic - South Korea, Iran, Italy. Turkey, Pakistan and Afghanstan have all closed their borders with Iran, but it is going to be too late - I simply do not believe that the virus is not already established in Pakistan and as for Iraq - no hope. Once the virus gets into Syria, then it will spread throughout the refugee camps like wildfire and then be spread via people heading elsewhere.


Austria and France are seriously considering suspending Schengen and closing their borders with Italy.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Get a grip man!

Maunder Minimum
23 February 2020 20:32:20


 


Get a grip man!


Originally Posted by: Devonian 



Funny response to a factual comment.


New world order coming.
Devonian
23 February 2020 20:38:20


 



Funny response to a factual comment.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


The chances are you'll survive this pandemic

xioni2
23 February 2020 20:41:51


The chances are you'll survive this pandemic


Originally Posted by: Devonian 


Brexit? I wouldn't be so sure! 

Maunder Minimum
23 February 2020 20:42:14


 


The chances are you'll survive this pandemic


Originally Posted by: Devonian 


I most likely shall. However, gratified that you recognise it is becoming a pandemic:


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/china-coronavirus-outbreak-latest-updates-200222222743195.html


 


New world order coming.
Gandalf The White
23 February 2020 20:45:24


 



Funny response to a factual comment.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Nothing remotely 'factual' in your opening sentence; just the usual misguided and ill-informed nonsense


"Cruises in the region should have been stopped at the outset - dereliction of duty on behalf of the WHO that did not happen."


 


The WHO doesn't have the power to do that and it doesn't indulge in the sort of dramatic overreaction prevalent amongst some contributors. Nor does it, or anyone else, have the benefit of hindsight.


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Devonian
23 February 2020 20:47:51


 


I most likely shall. However, gratified that you recognise it is becoming a pandemic:


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/china-coronavirus-outbreak-latest-updates-200222222743195.html


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Yes and I know what a pandemic is too. It isn't necessarily scary...

Roger Parsons
23 February 2020 20:52:23


Wonder what the demographics were on the cruise? The old trope is that they're for the well fed, the newly-wed and the nearly dead. If it's the latter then no surprise that they're dying...


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Saggin', Shaggin' or Flaggin'?


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Maunder Minimum
23 February 2020 20:56:57

Why does Gandalf always have to stick his oar in? This is fact: "Austria have refused entry of a train from Italy tonight."


Amusing comment from Retron regarding cruises - as I stated previously, I would have to be paid handsomely to go on a cruise myself.


New world order coming.
Quantum
23 February 2020 23:18:20

Seems to be dying down in China. However things really taking off outside. Within a week we can expect the number of daily cases in the rest of the world to exceed the daily cases in China (which is now in the hundreds rather than thousands).


 


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Gandalf The White
23 February 2020 23:55:07


Why does Gandalf always have to stick his oar in? This is fact: "Austria have refused entry of a train from Italy tonight."


Amusing comment from Retron regarding cruises - as I stated previously, I would have to be paid handsomely to go on a cruise myself.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I guess I ‘stuck my oar in’ because you were talking nonsense. You’re the advocate of free speech, or are you putting limits on it suddenly?


Facts are fine, of course. But that’s different to misinformation and misunderstanding, of which you have been guilty a number of times in this thread.


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CreweCold
23 February 2020 23:55:09


Seems to be dying down in China. However things really taking off outside. Within a week we can expect the number of daily cases in the rest of the world to exceed the daily cases in China (which is now in the hundreds rather than thousands).


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


The lockdown has obviously worked over there...the thing is will we be seeing the same thing happen across European countries etc to try to prevent this spreading further than it needs to?


Boris will possibly have some big decisions to make.



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Zubzero
24 February 2020 02:35:31
Around 30K people have died from drowning related accidents worldwide so far this year and about 2.5k from Omgwtf Zombie apocalypse run for the Hills Corona virus.

Don't go outside without your life jackets and arm bands and keep well clear of puddles, you never know where Jaws can be lurking.
Brian Gaze
24 February 2020 07:08:29

Around 30K people have died from drowning related accidents worldwide so far this year and about 2.5k from Omgwtf Zombie apocalypse run for the Hills Corona virus.

Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


In the US alone more than 300 people die in the workplace each year through electrocution. It must be thousands in China.


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Roger Parsons
24 February 2020 07:19:16


In the US alone more than 300 people die in the workplace each year through electrocution. It must be thousands in China.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


True, but lacking the horror-laden resonance of older folk-memories, Brian. Here's an interesting read.


https://www.newsweek.com/black-plague-death-height-women-shorter-708068


Bring out your dead!


Roger


 


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Maunder Minimum
24 February 2020 07:58:27


 


In the US alone more than 300 people die in the workplace each year through electrocution. It must be thousands in China.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


With respect, that is completely besides the point. The issue is the disruption to commerce, daily life and travel caused by a pandemic. Raw number of deaths is not the issue - hospitals being overloaded, factories and schools shutting down - that is the issue.


 


New world order coming.
speckledjim
24 February 2020 07:59:04


 


In the US alone more than 300 people die in the workplace each year through electrocution. It must be thousands in China.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


More people will have died in lightning strikes than the 27 who have died outside of China during this period.


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