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28 March 2020 06:39:16

Any incoming positives today?......we live in hope


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Brian Gaze
28 March 2020 06:46:39

Players at some clubs across Europe - including Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund - have agreed to take temporary pay cuts.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52070969


The pay cuts will need to be permanent. Nonetheless it is a start. Hopefully teams in the English Premier League will follow and raise up the stakes.


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doctormog
28 March 2020 06:56:32


Players at some clubs across Europe - including Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund - have agreed to take temporary pay cuts.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52070969


The pay cuts will need to be permanent. Nonetheless it is a start. Hopefully teams in the English Premier League will follow and raise up the stakes.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I’m sure it will be tricky for some of them to cope on only 200000 Euros a week.


Ulric
28 March 2020 07:33:20


Any incoming positives today?......we live in hope


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


Positive news or positive tests?


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Bugglesgate
28 March 2020 07:37:30

From the closed thread


 



So, in a moment of drunken solace at 2.30 in the morning, I wanted to state that my 82 year old mother has been taken to hospital with a raging temperature and I’ve today been furloughed with a wide and three kids to support. Apologies for the self indulgence and reliance on booze to get through it tonight, but so be it.


Really sorry  to hear  about your Mum  Jason- fingers crossed it's not as bad as it sounds 


We all have our threshold   for necking  booze - nobody is going to judge you in the least.


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28 March 2020 07:38:37

From the diary of Samuel Pepys:


London, 16th October 1665


But Lord, how empty the [city] streets are, and melancholy, so many poor sick people in the streets, full of sores, and so many sad stories overheard as I walk, everybody talking of this dead, and that man sick, and so many in this place, and so many in that. And they tell me that in Westminster there is never a physitian, and but one apothecary left, all being dead – but there are great hopes of a great decrease this week: God send it.


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28 March 2020 07:38:52

My deepest sympathies to Haghir, whose position is really dire, but is likely to be overlooked as it was the last post in yesterday's thread.


 


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28 March 2020 07:42:01
SK have seen their highest number of new daily cases since 21 March.

Daily total increase by 146
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28 March 2020 07:42:55


From the diary of Samuel Pepys:


London, 16th October 1665


But Lord, how empty the [city] street are, and melancholy, so many poor sick people in the streets, full of sores, and so many sad stories overheard as I walk, everybody talking of this dead, and that man sick, and so many in this place, and so many in that. And they tell me that in Westminster there is never a physitian, and but one apothecary left, all being dead – but there are great hopes of a great decrease this week: God send it.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


It was supposed that smoking prevented you from catching this, the bubonic plague, because [it was said] no tobacconist ever died of it. They had fake theories then, too, even without benefit of social media


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28 March 2020 07:55:16


My deepest sympathies to Haghir, whose position is really dire, but is likely to be overlooked as it was the last post in yesterday's thread.


 

Originally Posted by: DEW 


My thoughts are with everyone who is going through these difficult times. In particular Haghir from the last thread. Just back from my walk outside the gulag. The birdsong, in particular from the larks was incredible today.


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28 March 2020 07:56:31
https://www.euromomo.eu/index.html 
Interesting that this cheery weekly death tracker shows below average rates at present
Sevendust
28 March 2020 07:59:52

Brunei now added to the fatalities list

Brian Gaze
28 March 2020 08:04:10
LBC just said all Welsh NHS workers have been tested for antibodies since March 18th. Is that true?
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28 March 2020 08:04:43


My deepest sympathies to Haghir, whose position is really dire, but is likely to be overlooked as it was the last post in yesterday's thread.


 


Originally Posted by: DEW 

Absolutely!  My thoughts are with you Haghir!  Hang on in there, it isn’t easy, I know, but we’ll get through this.  It’s good that you’ve voiced your thoughts, as it’s not good to bottle them up. We all need to talk about our worries to relieve the pressure.  We really do need to stick together and support each other!   


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Ulric
28 March 2020 08:07:57
Peoples responses with regard to alcohol consumption are varied. I know some who have sought solace in the bottle and others like me, whose consumption has dropped from moderate to near zero.

I opened a bottle of beer last night and really enjoyed it. That makes one whole pint I have consumed in the last three weeks.
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Gandalf The White
28 March 2020 08:08:59


My deepest sympathies to Haghir, whose position is really dire, but is likely to be overlooked as it was the last post in yesterday's thread.


 


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Thanks for pulling this into today’s thread. It was very sad to read his post and I’m absolutely sure that everyone’s anxious about their elderly relatives.  To be laid off at the same time is dreadful.


Stay safe everyone; this is spreading and the risk of catching it is rising everywhere day by day.


Time to grit our teeth and get through the next month or two, even if there’s a good chance of getting only mild symptoms.


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Bugglesgate
28 March 2020 08:10:41

Not sure if this had been posted before, but some  interesting data here :-


 


https://www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/b5f59585-5870-ea11-9124-00505601089b


 


 


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Brian Gaze
28 March 2020 08:19:12

Tory MP Laura Trott on LBC: Non-essential workers are still able to go to work if they can't work remotely as long as they maintain social distancing. This is because the government is very mindful of the economy.


Personally I would extend the lock-down to stop these workers going to work.


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28 March 2020 08:20:44

Had a call from my son this morning.  He and his partner have been furloughed.  They moved into their first home together in January, having previously lived with us and they’ve worked hard to get their place nice.  He sounded a bit despondent and she was distraught. But, they have us to fall back on and they really have no need to worry. They’re in a far better position than a lot of people. 


I understand it’s a shock and it might seem that all you’ve worked for is suddenly in vain.  But you will always adapt to life’s knocks and you will always come through it a stronger person.  It’s not easy having to adapt but I think you will soon realise that you can manage with much less and when all this upset ends, you’ll still manage with less and you’ll appreciate the little luxuries.  Take it from one who has lived, lost and survived.


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Sevendust
28 March 2020 08:26:46


Tory MP Laura Trott on LBC: Non-essential workers are still able to go to work if they can't work remotely as long as they maintain social distancing. This is because the government is very mindful of the economy.


Personally I would extend the lock-down to stop these workers going to work.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Once again that puts the onus back on the public. No pressure

Caz
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28 March 2020 08:30:26


Tory MP Laura Trott on LBC: Non-essential workers are still able to go to work if they can't work remotely as long as they maintain social distancing. This is because the government is very mindful of the economy.


Personally I would extend the lock-down to stop these workers going to work.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

I think if people are able to work whilst following the rules, they should continue.  I don’t see the point in laying everyone off if they’re not risking lives.  


For example:  My brother-in-law is a golf club green keeper.  Obviously the course is closed but the course still needs maintaining. He drives to work in the morning on his own, does his job out in the open, without being near anyone else and then drives home.  He’s neither putting himself or anyone else at risk, so I don’t see why the government should pay him to stay at home.  It wouldn’t make economic sense.


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Polar Low
28 March 2020 09:23:28

To be honest I can see Brian’s point have been working at the school all week with few support people and teachers I have to say it’s near on impossible to keep to the guidelines you just don’t know what the person next move is.


 


 



I think if people are able to work whilst following the rules, they should continue.  I don’t see the point in laying everyone off if they’re not risking lives.  


For example:  My brother-in-law is a golf club green keeper.  Obviously the course is closed but the course still needs maintaining. He drives to work in the morning on his own, does his job out in the open, without being near anyone else and then drives home.  He’s neither putting himself or anyone else at risk, so I don’t see why the government should pay him to stay at home.  It wouldn’t make economic sense.


Originally Posted by: Caz 

nsrobins
28 March 2020 09:30:59


I think if people are able to work whilst following the rules, they should continue.  I don’t see the point in laying everyone off if they’re not risking lives.  


For example:  My brother-in-law is a golf club green keeper.  Obviously the course is closed but the course still needs maintaining. He drives to work in the morning on his own, does his job out in the open, without being near anyone else and then drives home.  He’s neither putting himself or anyone else at risk, so I don’t see why the government should pay him to stay at home.  It wouldn’t make economic sense.


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Agreed. There is absolutely no point in squeezing the economy to a trickle if it can be avoided. I’m collecting a new car next week as booked in January - all important paperwork done online, dealer is open with two staff only to administer new car business (already previously arranged) and I’m on my own. 
They get some income and no one is put at risk. 
You could argue it’s non essential but if challenged I will argue it’s no greater risk than going round three shops for supplies (which I will do on the way).


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chelseagirl
28 March 2020 09:35:15

 


I think if people are able to work whilst following the rules, they should continue.  I don’t see the point in laying everyone off if they’re not risking lives.  



However, even some key workers cannot maintain the separation, so it’s not that easy. 


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doctormog
28 March 2020 09:39:46
I fully agree Neil. There seems to be an endless supply of people online ready to judge everyone on their (sometimes perceived) actions. The reality is that most people (admittedly not everyone) will try to do their best to protect themselves and others. That does not mean that everyone will interpret the guidelines in the same way, but it should also not mean that people should be roundly condemned by others who do not know their circumstances.

For clarity I don’t mean the groups of people socialising in public, I mean the couple seen walking down the street or in the local park etc. I’m also not explicitly referring to this forum as people are much much more judgemental elsewhere online.

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