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Heavy Weather 2013
08 April 2020 19:40:51
Latest update from Downing Street:

A Downing Street spokesperson said:

“The Prime Minister continues to make steady progress. He remains in intensive care.”

That’s a bit different to ‘In good spirits, sitting up and engaging with people’

I want to believe he is getting better, but I don’t think we are being told the whole story here.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Maunder Minimum
08 April 2020 19:45:55

Latest update from Downing Street:

A Downing Street spokesperson said:

“The Prime Minister continues to make steady progress. He remains in intensive care.”

That’s a bit different to ‘In good spirits, sitting up and engaging with people’

I want to believe he is getting better, but I don’t think we are being told the whole story here.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Clearly not - if a patient can sit up and chat to nurses, he would be moved out of intensive care pronto.


Stable is the motto.


New world order coming.
Justin W
08 April 2020 19:48:00
Just read between the lines. He hasn’t got much better.
Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Polar Low
08 April 2020 19:48:20

 We can’t ask for more just yet


 




 


Clearly not - if a patient can sit up and chat to nurses, he would be moved out of intensive care pronto.


Stable is the motto.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

Gandalf The White
08 April 2020 19:54:29

Just read between the lines. He hasn’t got much better.

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I think on balance that's a fair conclusion.   But for someone who only went into ICU a little more than 48 hours ago perhaps that's about the best we could expect.


Stable will do for now


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Justin W
08 April 2020 19:59:24


 


I think on balance that's a fair conclusion.   But for someone who only went into ICU a little more than 48 hours ago perhaps that's about the best we could expect.


Stable will do for now


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


He is alive. Even I, the most animated Tory turned Tory hater, wants him to pull through and get back to No10


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
fairweather
08 April 2020 20:02:34


Here's the Telegraph's modelling of new cases. I'd be astounded, astonished, amazed if we have fewer than 100 cases each day by the end of the month!



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/08/long-do-lockdowns-last-countries-acted-fastest-could-freed-first/


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I went out to our local small Boots for medication today, mainly to see if the queues had gone down and how safe it was. Don't really want to be hanging around inside a small Pharmacy atm. They had a system of one or two in and out and there was only two queuing outside. Way less than this time last week. The first time I'd left the house for over a week and there was little traffic and seemed to be a 100% compliance with social distancing. People crossing to other side of road or talking to somebody from several metres apart. No idiots on view but even with them it is hard to see the mechanism of how this is still transmitting widely or will continue to do so. Considering the weather good compliance with staying inside. This is no rural village. Population of over 300,000 so I was quite impressed actually. Maybe we are complying better than would have been thought  - we do tend to be a Nation that obeys - who else is as keen on queueing!


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Polar Low
08 April 2020 20:05:35

Germans 


 



 


I went out to our local small Boots for medication today, mainly to see if the queues had gone down and how safe it was. Don't really want to be hanging around inside a small Pharmacy atm. They had a system of one or two in and out and there was only two queuing outside. Way less than this time last week. The first time I'd left the house for over a week and there was little traffic and seemed to be a 100% compliance with social distancing. People crossing to other side of road or talking to somebody from several metres apart. No idiots on view but even with them it is hard to see the mechanism of how this is still transmitting widely or will continue to do so. Considering the weather good compliance with staying inside. This is no rural village. Population of over 300,000 so I was quite impressed actually. Maybe we are complying better than would have been thought  - we do tend to be a Nation that obeys - who else is as keen on queueing!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 

Maunder Minimum
08 April 2020 20:07:55


 


I went out to our local small Boots for medication today, mainly to see if the queues had gone down and how safe it was. Don't really want to be hanging around inside a small Pharmacy atm. They had a system of one or two in and out and there was only two queuing outside. Way less than this time last week. The first time I'd left the house for over a week and there was little traffic and seemed to be a 100% compliance with social distancing. People crossing to other side of road or talking to somebody from several metres apart. No idiots on view but even with them it is hard to see the mechanism of how this is still transmitting widely or will continue to do so. Considering the weather good compliance with staying inside. This is no rural village. Population of over 300,000 so I was quite impressed actually. Maybe we are complying better than would have been thought  - we do tend to be a Nation that obeys - who else is as keen on queueing!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Perhaps seeing the Prime Minister laid low has brought it home to people just what a nasty thing this virus can be. I want Boris to be well and back in Number Ten as soon as possible, but he may have served some purpose by getting sick.


New world order coming.
xioni2
08 April 2020 20:09:42


Very bad idea. Our population is not collectively compliant like other cultures. Both the US and UK have a tradition of libertarianism and distrust of state power. Unlike France, Spain, Italy, Germany we have never had the experience of martial law and army checkpoints


Many minority groups already have a fractured relationship with the police. Putting thousands of young fully armed grunts from poorly educated  backgrounds on the streets of London and Birmingham is playing with fire


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


This is such bollocks. You have no idea of how little the Greeks, Italians and the French trust the state and how rebellious they are. Some of them see us Brits as obedient sheep.

Bugglesgate
08 April 2020 20:13:02


 


Perhaps seeing the Prime Minister laid low has brought it home to people just what a nasty thing this virus can be. I want Boris to be well and back in Number Ten as soon as possible, but he may have served some purpose by getting sick.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


I would agree with this. 


It was  easy for  people to say, oh, it's just killing old people who were dying already, or  people with scary underlying conditions (etc etc).  What has been a fairly abstract event  for some has suddenly become a lot more real when such a high profile figure, who doesn't fit any of the "high risk categories",  gets laid so low. 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
xioni2
08 April 2020 20:25:27

I think he will be right that the decline will be less steep and take less time then the increase.


 





Originally Posted by: Justin W 

bowser
08 April 2020 20:29:34


 


 


Indeed, the EU has made a right Horlicks of this and there is a lot of bad bloody as a result.


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


IMO, the Italians may well take the tack “if we can get through Covid19, is leaving the EU really that difficult in comparison?”

Gandalf The White
08 April 2020 20:34:59


 


He is alive. Even I, the most animated Tory turned Tory hater, wants him to pull through and get back to No10


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Yes, like you I do not like the New Brexit Party and many of the people who now make up the government. But I would never let my dislike extend to wishing Boris ill, particularly now when we need effective leadership.  He may have fallen short early in this crisis but he has improved. Plus he has a new child on the way.


Unless there is another monumental lapse of judgment we will not be ending the transition period on 31st December and will still be working with the EU. To add the economic shock of what will have to be an underprepared exit from the EU to the economic shock of Covid-19 would be wilful stupidity. 


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Saint Snow
08 April 2020 20:36:17


 


He is alive. Even I, the most animated Tory turned Tory hater, wants him to pull through and get back to No10


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


I also want him to pull through.


But once he does, prepare yourself for puke-inducing levels of deification. And it won't be him mainly riding the tsunami of popularity, it'll be the sociopathic misanthropes like Gove, Raab, Patel... all orchestrated by the psychotic Rasputin.


 



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westv
08 April 2020 20:38:08
Boris "messiah" Johnson?
At least it will be mild!
xioni2
08 April 2020 20:40:41


 Yes, like you I do not like the New Brexit Party and many of the people who now make up the government. But I would never let my dislike extend to wishing Boris ill, particularly now when we need effective leadership.  He may have fallen short early in this crisis but he has improved. Plus he has a new child on the way.


Unless there is another monumental lapse of judgment we will not be ending the transition period on 31st December and will still be working with the EU. To add the economic shock of what will have to be an underprepared exit from the EU to the economic shock of Covid-19 would be wilful stupidity. 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Pretty much my thoughts too. As for the brexit deadline, religion never ends:


"The majority of Brits (56%), however, say they would support extending the Brexit transition. Only 27% say they would oppose doing this


78% of Remain voters support extending the deadline, while by 48% to 37% Leave voters say they would oppose extending it"


(today's yougov poll)

Saint Snow
08 April 2020 20:42:36

Boris "messiah" Johnson?

Originally Posted by: westv 


 


Lazarus more appropriate (as he wouldn't have 'resurrected' under his own powers, more relying on the skill of others.



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Gavin D
08 April 2020 20:43:38

Updated trajectory


 


 


Bugglesgate
08 April 2020 20:51:33


Updated trajectory


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 


The take away from that is :-


1.  We haven't done terribly well on international comparisons but probably   well enough to avoid NHS meltdown


2.  Where the photon  is the  US heading with this


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Brian Gaze
08 April 2020 20:58:19
Just discussing Whitty and Johnson. If you look at pictures of them who would you expect to be hit worse by Corona? Whitty really doesn't look very robust at all.
Brian Gaze
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Justin W
08 April 2020 21:08:48

Just discussing Whitty and Johnson. If you look at pictures of them who would you expect to be hit worse by Corona? Whitty really doesn't look very robust at all.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Whitty is not overweight. Johnson is obese. Weight appears to be important.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gandalf The White
08 April 2020 21:17:13


 


Whitty is not overweight. Johnson is obese. Weight appears to be important.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Exactly.


I was going to reply to Brian with the three letters:  B M I


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Saint Snow
08 April 2020 21:20:27


 


Exactly.


I was going to reply to Brian with the three letters:  B M I


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


 




Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Gandalf The White
08 April 2020 21:22:52


Updated trajectory


 


 



Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Mixing fact and fiction in the one graph isn't helpful. The China plot should be removed until they provide data that has a passing relationship with reality.


As for the UK position, the rate of growth is clearly starting to slow, which is encouraging. Next stage is a downturn in a week or week to ten days.


The US looks to be building into a serious problem. Well done Donald. 


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