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David M Porter
09 April 2020 18:57:32


 


Sorry, but that is just completely predictable and means absolutely nothing. It is a matter of record that they covered up Covid-19 for at least a month and then obfuscated about the seriousness: the silencing of the first doctor to flag the outbreak; the censoring of any social media posts raising concerns; the claim that person-to-person transmission wasn't occurring.


It is just another aspect of China's propaganda effort. Please don't let people be gullible enough to fall for this rubbish.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


That is why we need to treat anything they say now with a rather large dose of salt, IMO.


I totally understand the point that was made in a previous thread the other day about how governments around the world now need to come together to fight the disease and that now is not the time for recriminations and finger-pointing. That said, given the deceit, obfuscation and evasion of the Chinese authorities for several weeks after the outbreak began there, how can anyone have any faith in anything they say now?


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
John p
09 April 2020 18:58:29


Camberley, Surrey
Quantum
09 April 2020 19:00:57

JFF model update with 10713 people tested.


Model prediction: 4199


Actual: 4344


 



https://i.ibb.co/xzJ2gP0/0904jff.jpg 


Another excellent day for the JFF model that called this one within a few hundred cases. Model is performing very well at the moment. I'm becoming increasingly optimistic about its predictions which are good.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
doctormog
09 April 2020 19:04:03
It is great once again to hear (and join in with) the clapping and the sound of the ships’ horns from Aberdeen Harbour,
Caz
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09 April 2020 19:06:42


I’ll have a couple on Boris now sod it 





Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

I’ll raise my glass to that!  


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Bugglesgate
09 April 2020 19:08:06


My next door neighbours have a touring caravan and they’re spending Easter in it.  


On their driveway!  That’ll be a nice change for them and very sensible! 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


 


This I just don't get ! - I bet their house is much more spacious and luxurious  and they don't have to dump in a chemical toilet and then dispose of the results !


.... but then I really don't "get" caravans anyway - probably becuase I had some pretty hideous early childhood  hols in  some. 


Why would   you want to spend time in a plywood monstrosity that smells of Calor gas buggering around  with gas mantels and gas cylinders cooking on a tiny hob,  sleeping on a shelf and having to fetch washing water from a farm 1/2 a mile away.    


Give me a nice country hotel with a decent restaurant and a bar serving  trad ale any day of the week.


 


 


 


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Justin W
09 April 2020 19:12:32

Fantastic news about the PM. My information was wrong but I am genuinely delighted and relieved that he is on the mend.


What a fantastic thing our NHS is. Its people and it as an institution. It and they saved my life - I will never forget it.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Heavy Weather 2013
09 April 2020 19:25:15
I’m delighted to hear the PM is out Intensive care. And well
Done to the NHS. I have clapped again.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Polar Low
09 April 2020 19:27:02

Yes another lovely display as about 6 red flares light the side of Bromfield Hosptial I can also see a huge firestorm@ about 500 metres from the other end huge damebuster noise I can see shadows of faces looking out most probably nurses  from the Bromfield  end Police in attendance looks like 1 person setting the whole lot up amazing stuff must been seen from many miles.


Thinking Boris news has added a little extra surrounding noise.


 


 

Caz
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09 April 2020 19:27:41


 


 


This I just don't get ! - I bet their house is much more spacious and luxurious  and they don't have to dump in a chemical toilet and then dispose of the results !


.... but then I really don't "get" caravans anyway - probably becuase I had some pretty hideous early childhood  hols in  some. 


Why would   you want to spend time in a plywood monstrosity that smells of Calor gas buggering around  with gas mantels and gas cylinders cooking on a tiny hob,  sleeping on a shelf and having to fetch washing water from a farm 1/2 a mile away.    


Give me a nice country hotel with a decent restaurant and a bar serving  trad ale any day of the week.


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 

Err, have you been in a new touring caravan recently?  Central heating, fixed bed, all electric, full size cooker and fridge, microwave, satellite TV!  But to mention a few of the changes since 1960’s burger vans!  Yes, their house is much bigger but after the same four walls for three weeks, a change is as good as a rest!


I’d rather be on a cruise or an all inclusive hotel in the Caribbean, but there’s no chance!  Actually, we have a tent and a lawn!  


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Gavin D
09 April 2020 19:30:42

Daily breakdown of the data from PHE


UK data 



  • Daily confirmed Cases -  4,344 (-2,753)

  • Total UK deaths - 7,978


English data


Top 10 Local Authorities with the highest confirmed cases



  1. Birmingham: 1,524

  2. Hampshire: 1,317

  3. Surrey: 1,175

  4. Essex: 1,139

  5. Lancashire: 1,111

  6. Kent: 1,105

  7. Hertfordshire: 1,090

  8. Sheffield: 1,020

  9. Cumbria: 936

  10. Brent: 880


Local Authorities with the fewest confirmed cases



  • Rutland: 8

  • Isle of Wight: 41

  • Hartlepool: 55

  • North East Lincolnshire: 58

  • Torbay: 66

  • North Lincolnshire: 71

  • Kingston upon Hull, City of: 74

  • Bath and North East Somerset: 84

  • Herefordshire, County of: 84

  • Peterborough: 85


Regional data



  • London - 15,217 (+1,479) 

  • Midlands - 9,063 (+474) 

  • North West - 7,339 (+699) 

  • North East and Yorkshire - 7,061 (+560) 

  • South East - 6,739 (+456) 

  • East of England - 4,438 (+273)

  • South West - 2,472 (+195) 


All changes with yesterday. Data based up to 9am today for new cases and up to 5pm yesterday for new confirmed coronavirus deaths. Not all deaths occurred in the 24hr period.

Bolty
09 April 2020 19:39:40
Good to hear Boris is out of the ICU!
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
SJV
09 April 2020 19:40:29

Good to hear Boris is out of the ICU!

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


👍 

Rob K
09 April 2020 19:42:36


 


Did China send their best wishes, or is it below them.


So that's nearly 8,000 of our countrymen dead in under a month!


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


That may be a slightly over dramatic way of looking at it. We won’t know the true number of excess deaths for a while. There are around 50,000 deaths every month in the UK on average, to put the numbers in perspective. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
The Beast from the East
09 April 2020 19:42:39

New Horizon tonight at 9 on BBC2 about Covid


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Rob K
09 April 2020 19:44:41


That would be easy to do but we are strictly adhering to our one glass of wine with dinner during the week and a bit more Friday and Saturday.  I’m always mindful that alcohol is a depressant and I know too many alcoholics. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I’ve had a couple of small beers. My wife managed to get some Stella at the Co-op and I’ve just noticed the date: best before end July 2019! They must have found some boxes at the back of the storeroom. Tastes fine though. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Brian Gaze
09 April 2020 19:48:12

Confirmed rate for positive cases is 40.55%

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


How on earth is that calculated? It's closer to 25%.


4,344 positive


16,095 tests


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haggishunter
09 April 2020 19:48:21


 


I’ve had a couple of small beers. My wife managed to get some Stella at the Co-op and I’ve just noticed the date: best before end July 2019! They must have found some boxes at the back of the storeroom. Tastes fine though. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


The Stella tasted fine? Must definitely have been off then! 

Brian Gaze
09 April 2020 19:50:37


This I just don't get ! - I bet their house is much more spacious and luxurious  and they don't have to dump in a chemical toilet and then dispose of the results !


.... but then I really don't "get" caravans anyway - probably becuase I had some pretty hideous early childhood  hols in  some. 


Why would   you want to spend time in a plywood monstrosity that smells of Calor gas buggering around  with gas mantels and gas cylinders cooking on a tiny hob,  sleeping on a shelf and having to fetch washing water from a farm 1/2 a mile away.    


Give me a nice country hotel with a decent restaurant and a bar serving  trad ale any day of the week.


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


 Couldn't agree more. Never understood the caravan thing.


Brian Gaze
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The Beast from the East
09 April 2020 19:51:12

As we correctly celebrate Johnsons recovery, lets not forget this govt has totally arsed up its response in many areas which has arguably led to many unnecessary deaths


 


 




"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Brian Gaze
09 April 2020 19:53:27

Lots of clapping here tonight. Noisier than before with people using their wheelie bins as drums.  Good news about Boris too though I'm not sure if that was announced before or after the clapping. 


Brian Gaze
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Gavin D
09 April 2020 20:14:26


Coronavirus: Spain close to the beginning of a decline in epidemic - PM




Quote

 



  • Germany, Italy and Denmark say they may loosen lockdown restrictions as Spain plans to allow some businesses to reopen.


Spain is close to the beginning of a decline in the coronavirus epidemic, the country's prime minister has said. Health officials reported 5,756 new cases and 683 new deaths over the latest 24-hour period. That is compared with 6,180 new cases and 757 deaths on Wednesday.


It comes as Germany, Italy and Denmark indicated that improving figures on coronavirus could mean restrictions being lifted, or partially lifted, within weeks. Spain's PM Pedro Sanchez urged all political parties to join a pact for national economic revival once the COVID-19 crisis is over. He said: "The fire starts to come under control... This war against the virus will be a total victory." The Spanish parliament was expected to vote for a two-week extension of Spain's state of emergency which would keep people at home until 26 April.


 





http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-spain-close-to-the-beginning-of-a-decline-in-epidemic-pm-11970955?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter


RobN
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09 April 2020 20:23:55


 


 Couldn't agree more. Never understood the caravan thing.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Nor me. Scars from childhood holidays probably. 


Never did get the cruise thing either - and especially so now The idea of being cooped up with thousands other folks in a tin box and occasionally let off to be bussed en masse to tourist honey pots fills me with horror.


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
pfw
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09 April 2020 20:36:36

Trudeau says this is the "new normal" in Canada until a vaccine is developed


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/coronavirus-covid19-april9-canada-world-1.5527309


Rights and wrongs aside, he needs to be careful with this kind of talk. There is broad support for the lock down at the moment, and dissenting voices so far seem to be mainly on the libertarian fringes. However, this could change very rapidly as people's businesses go under or they see loved ones suffering from increased isolation.


Even social distancing is hard - it just feels unnatural. A huge proportion of the things that people do to make life worth living aren't possible from 2m away from each other (ooh err missus!). I would hate for it to become the "new normal" although I accept it may be necessary for a long time.


Trudeau needs to find some way to give people hope that things will ease by summer. A tough call for him, but "that's why they pay you the big bucks" as they say here.


 


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Paul.
CreweCold
09 April 2020 20:50:23


Fantastic news about the PM. My information was wrong but I am genuinely delighted and relieved that he is on the mend.


What a fantastic thing our NHS is. Its people and it as an institution. It and they saved my life - I will never forget it.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


You've actually made me smile with your attitude towards the PM's battle with COVID. 


I know you were fervently against Brexit and thought not a lot of Boris politically...but you have found it easy to separate politics and actual human decency, unlike a number of rabid idiots on twitter and the like wishing him ill. 


I've not always agreed with you but you've gone well up in my estimation :)



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55 metres above sea level

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