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Ally Pally Snowman
25 December 2022 07:00:11

And where? He may mean GreenlandđŸ‡ŹđŸ‡±. 

Happy Christmas to all. 

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 



Greenland has enough.  UK and Ireland need their fair share. â˜ƒïžđŸŒšđŸŽ…đŸ„¶
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Ally Pally Snowman
25 December 2022 07:12:50
A big Bah humbug from the GEFS this morning. 

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25 December 2022 07:22:23
No Christmas present for weather watcher today! WX temps show the whole of Europe (bar a tiny bit of Norway) well above average for the time of year, and in absolute terms, the cold (<0C) area has withdrawn since yesterday and now consists only of Russia and N Scandinavia. Better news on rain; this continues to affect Atlantic coasts generally in week 1 but is limited to N Scotland and W Norway in week 2.

GFS op: basically zonal for the rest of December, with LPs somewhere N of Scotland and windy from a W/SW point; broad area of HP then begns to rise over the continent, moving to England 1035 mb Fri 7th, where it sticks and the weather calms down. No sign of yesterday's Scandi HP, justifying Rob K's scepticism.

ECM : like GFS but some of the LPs in week 1 are closer and deeper e.g. 965mb Thu 29th and hanging over into Jan 980 mb 2nd both near Hebrides. The HP is in place by Wed 4th and does include a ridge to Norway.

GEFS : temps rising irregularly to norm about the start of January, with most of any rain in that time; drier from then on (the W esp Scotland continues wet for a few days longer) and milder , op and control notably so.
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The Beast from the East
25 December 2022 10:07:02

A big Bah humbug from the GEFS this morning. 

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Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



Never mind that, we still have the potential of an horrific storm or perhaps even stingjet for Friday. Seems cross model support this far out is very worrying. Looks like southern england is in the target zone. Last thing I need is to find a builder to fix the roof at this time of year
 
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The Beast from the East
25 December 2022 10:09:37
Thank the Lord the 06z doesnt develop the storm but could be another on Saturday
Lets hope this is a new trend or perhaps its just missing data at this time of year

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Gandalf The White
25 December 2022 11:12:01

A big Bah humbug from the GEFS this morning. 

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Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



In keeping with the spirit of the season..

”The cold weather is behind you”
”Oh no it isn’t”
”Oh yes it is”



 
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dagspot
25 December 2022 12:38:24
missing data bingo - check 
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David M Porter
25 December 2022 13:10:08

Merry Christmas to everyone on TWO!
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White Meadows
25 December 2022 21:51:29
Met office update represents a profound change in direction for January:

"A trend back towards milder, wetter weather is most likely"

more Atlantic gastroenteritis spewed onto our shores til Feb by the sound of things.
Merry Christmas. 
Saint Snow
25 December 2022 22:05:12

Met office update represents a profound change in direction for January:

"A trend back towards milder, wetter weather is most likely"

more Atlantic gastroenteritis spewed onto our shores til Feb by the sound of things.
Merry Christmas. 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 



đŸ€ź

There isn't a more depressing weather in winter than mild and wet. 

 

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backtobasics
25 December 2022 22:47:02

đŸ€ź

There isn't a more depressing weather in winter than mild and wet. 

 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



I'll raise you cold and wet !  i'll take mild all day long tbh, preferably with some sunshine 
idj20
25 December 2022 22:49:48

đŸ€ź

There isn't a more depressing weather in winter than mild and wet. 

 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



Indeed, really don't like the looks of the wind profile for late Friday/early Saturday on the 18z GFS. Just hope that it is overdoing it, especially as other models are showing a more toned down theme. I know it's something we expect to occur one or twice every winter, but thankfully on this occasion it looks like pressure will rise thereafter.
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25 December 2022 23:28:21

Met office update represents a profound change in direction for January:

"A trend back towards milder, wetter weather is most likely"

more Atlantic gastroenteritis spewed onto our shores til Feb by the sound of things.
Merry Christmas. 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


Typical front loaded La Nina winter most likely.
I do dislike cold and snow when days are very dark and short - it isn't so bad even by February.
tallyho_83
26 December 2022 00:20:03

Met office update represents a profound change in direction for January:

"A trend back towards milder, wetter weather is most likely"

more Atlantic gastroenteritis spewed onto our shores til Feb by the sound of things.
Merry Christmas. 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 



Yes. I saw that and the irony is that Fridays update mention about drier and frosty weather more likely and something like "temperatures below average or colder than average conditions more likely towards mid January". Furthermore this so called " a trend towards milder and wetter weather!" Well it never really gets dry or cold looking at the 18z so the Met office may as well say "mild and wet weather continuing"

I know I am clutching straws but the hope is there for a SSW looking at the 18z GFS at 10hpa esp toward the end.
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26 December 2022 08:22:27
No relief in sight for those hoping for another cold spell. WX temp charts show cold air tucked up well out of the way in W Russia and N Scandinavia, and mild air spreading even further N through the Atlantic up to Iceland in week 2. Rain as ever for Atlantic coastal countries in week 1, with some extension of pptn into the Baltic, but back W-wards in week 2 still including Britain and W Norway.

GFS Op - zonal stuff, with LP generally to the N of Scotland  and HP to the S of France generating W/SW-ly winds pushing far into Europe. A little extra excitement Sat 31st as one of the LPs comes further S and deepens 955mb N Ireland, moving through very quickly though; the HP forecast yesterday for later on is much less in evidence for Britain, staying over SE Europe instead.

FAX places the LP centres further S, close to or over Scotland with a procession of fronts and troughs for all.

ECM  as GFS though the storm on Sat 31st arrives a day earlier and is less deep

GEFS - temps as yesterday , mean rising irregularly to norm by about Sat 31st and then consistently above for the next ten days (very mild, say 6C above norm by Sat 7th). Lots of rain until about Tue 3rd, then drier esp in S & E (NW Scotland remains very wet)





 
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ballamar
26 December 2022 09:40:01
Might be just a hint of a dip at the very end of GEFS but looks to be a continuation of milder wet and windy.
The Beast from the East
26 December 2022 09:49:45
Still potential of a nasty storms later this week, when you need the euroslug to push north it never does

If we cant have cold and snow, then I'd rather have a Bartlett on speed with record mild temps
 
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The Beast from the East
26 December 2022 09:57:00
nasty potential still there
hopefully they swing north and away from the south. 
https://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2022122606/gfs-0-90.png?6 
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Jiries
26 December 2022 10:16:17

nasty potential still there
hopefully they swing north and away from the south. 
https://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2022122606/gfs-0-90.png?6 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Extremely boring type and never take a note of any storms that dont bring snow.  
Matty H
26 December 2022 10:43:44
Stupid illegal storms don’t move away like snow will as models lie to everyone all the time. I don’t take any notice of them now as governments send snow to Cyprus and rain to here for reservoirs 
dagspot
26 December 2022 11:32:37
sounds like the mulled wine still in full flow
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26 December 2022 12:41:47

Stupid illegal storms don’t move away like snow will as models lie to everyone all the time. I don’t take any notice of them now as governments send snow to Cyprus and rain to here for reservoirs

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Totally agree Matty. 50 years ago all the models were 100% accurate for the next month at least. Now they don't get the forecast for the same day correct. No wonder our weather is so boring and rubbish.... 
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Narnia
26 December 2022 12:53:47
What?
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26 December 2022 13:15:07

Stupid illegal storms don’t move away like snow will as models lie to everyone all the time. I don’t take any notice of them now as governments send snow to Cyprus and rain to here for reservoirs 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Jiries has hacked Matty’s account.
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26 December 2022 14:15:41

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