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fairweather
02 December 2023 18:11:54

Lol.
 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Colder than expected here today.  Max temp 0C
S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
02 December 2023 18:14:54

Yes an amazing event for the southern and central lakes.

Quite unusual. 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Just goes to show - with snow you can never be sure. I doubt many of us thought we would see that amount of snow in  the NW just a few days ago, or even any in the S.E. 😀
S.Essex, 42m ASL
Gusty
02 December 2023 19:15:33
I think a lesson is to be learned here. A fairly non descript typically rather cold, slack set up close to the winter solstice at face value (similar to last year), can and will provide plenty of surprises.

This particular so called 'cool blip' with -5c to -6c uppers has left me impressed.

1. Yesterday mornings light rain turning to a period of light snow at 10am in the morning. A high of just 3.4c
2. The effortless drop from 1c to -2c at 8pm last night (bear in mind our usual entire winter minima is usually -3c)
3. Last nights snow showers across East Kent providing a reasonable event in a slack flow.
4. A practical ice day out of nowhere.
5. A genuine freezing fog event in coastal Folkestone (currently -1.9c) is extremely rare, I've not recorded one in all of my years of recording weather (25 years at least).
6. Biggest bonus is being able to record falling snow in the diary for the two opening of December/Winter.


 
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Cumbrian Snowman
02 December 2023 19:29:03
Clearly a major snow event in Cumbria today, focussed on the west and south coast inland towards Ambleside and Shap. Much of the north of the county hasnt seen anything
Broughton in Furness 30cm (unverifield)
Ambleside 18cm
 15cm wideley in other places.
The fell tops must have had perhaps double those values so good luck if you are venturing up there tomorrow.
Even had thunder and lightning reported.
M6 over Shap and Tebay, single file traffic and 20mph, HGV,s all over the place.
Paul C
Brampton, Cumbria 117m ASL
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Andy J
02 December 2023 20:06:55
Light snow falling here.  Not settling much though.
Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.
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ozone_aurora
02 December 2023 20:37:52
Snowing in Sheffield this evening.
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Roger Parsons
02 December 2023 21:04:06

Light snow falling here.  Not settling much though.

Originally Posted by: Andy J 


Nothing much here yet - looked out and it's very frosty. -3degC and a bit of fog. I think we must be south of the action at present.
RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Saint Snow
02 December 2023 21:09:16
Home now and just a patchy dusting.

Radar suggests the snow shield for this region in full effect

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
02 December 2023 21:19:35
Major incident declared in South Cumbria

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyj29lwyg93o 

The Three Shires webcam impressive.

This is a webcam at Arnside, the estuary of the River Kent and close to the sea (it's sea level)

https://www.camsecure.co.uk/arnside%20pier%20webcam.html 

I'm beyond envious!!

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
ozone_aurora
02 December 2023 21:44:51
Yes, all due to vigorous convection over the Irish Sea. There's even been considerable lightning activity out there.
four
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02 December 2023 22:13:07
The various people saying northerlies are no longer cold and snow events are almost impossible apart from in the far north might shut up for a bit anyway.
North York Moors weather 
Gandalf The White
02 December 2023 22:30:01

The various people saying northerlies are no longer cold and snow events are almost impossible apart from in the far north might shut up for a bit anyway.

Originally Posted by: four 



I think you’ll find it was north easterlies, or westerlies today, but why let mere detail prevent you from having another pathetic dig about climate change, eh?
Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Saint Snow
02 December 2023 22:33:26
Snowing again, but still only very light.

Radar suggests a better-organised clump of ppn has got past the Welsh mountain gatekeepers. We'll see.

 

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
02 December 2023 22:57:42
Finally!

Moderate snow, sticking readily. PPN band is still fragmented, so I don't expect this to last, but perhaps more showers like this could lay down a cm or two by morning.

Up in Cumbria, the snow continues to pile in (looks to also affect a little further north, too - at least as far as Keswick). I reckon some places will be under 18" of snow come tomorrow.

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Joe Bloggs
02 December 2023 23:11:52
That’s good news Saint.

Snowing moderately here too but too wet to settle so far in the Manchester UHI. 
 

Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL
Bolty
02 December 2023 23:14:18
Light snow just started here as well and immediately settling. Looks like some heavier stuff may move in behind it as well.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Quantum
02 December 2023 23:38:37

Colder than expected here today.  Max temp 0C

Originally Posted by: fairweather 



For me it didn't get above -1.3C until the evenign when the snow has brought it up. Its now -0.4C and I'm at risk of losing my ice day with only half an hour to go.
 
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
02 December 2023 23:44:09

The various people saying northerlies are no longer cold and snow events are almost impossible apart from in the far north might shut up for a bit anyway.

Originally Posted by: four 


To be fair I wouldn't describe this as a northerly; the airmass has not been arctic in origin but continental (scandi). The wind is northerly now yes, but it still originates from scandi and its only wrapping around approaching weather systems. I'd not go as far as the people saying northerlies can't deliver but you still need to look east usually to tick all three boxes: widespread, severe and longlasting.

 
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Bolty
03 December 2023 00:14:59
It's started coming down a bit harder in the last 10 minutes or so. Already up to an inch/inch and a half of snow now.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
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Joe Bloggs
03 December 2023 00:20:21
Snowing heavily here , really nice to see. 

Not much settling though apart from on favoured surfaces. Outlying areas no doubt will do much better! 

Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL
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Bolty
03 December 2023 00:27:09

Snowing heavily here , really nice to see. 

Not much settling though apart from on favoured surfaces. Outlying areas no doubt will do much better! 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 



I'm surprised this has ended up as marginal as it has done. Many places struggled to get above freezing at all yesterday, so you'd have thought it would ave looked quite good for everyone.

Unfrotunately it looks like the 850s are very marginal (-3 to -5°C) and the dew points are too (only -0.3°C according to my weather station).
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Saint Snow
03 December 2023 00:28:41
Easing off here now. a good 2cm covering. Not much to come after this, unfortunately.

Looks nice, though.

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Quantum
03 December 2023 00:29:22

I'm surprised this has ended up as marginal as it has done. Many places struggled to get above freezing at all yesterday, so you'd have thought it would ave looked quite good for everyone.

Unfrotunately it looks like the 850s are very marginal (-3 to -5°C) and the dew points are too (only -0.3°C according to my weather station).

Originally Posted by: Bolty 



With the airmass marginal as you say, you need the winds to be light and not coming off the sea. Wind speed and wind direction plays a huge role; our supply of cold air has been cut off so we only have a limited supply of it* and cannot afford to have it blown away.

*Evaporation can make more cold air though.
 
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
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Roger Parsons
03 December 2023 04:52:13
Looked outside at 04.30hrs and the village has had a fall of snow overnight - 2-3 inches at a guess. Not actually snowing now but more is forecast.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcry8y9h7#?date=2023-12-03 
 
RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Caz
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03 December 2023 05:37:42
3-4 inches here and still snowing but very light now.  Had the odd flurry around 10 pm, then nothing until around 1:30 am, when the heavy snow started.  Looks really lovely and we can deliver on a promise made to our two year old granddaughter.  Last night we told her we’d have a snowy walk in the park this morning.  Phew!  😁
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