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Gooner
13 December 2010 22:02:33

very disappointed,I really expected a point. At least Man U or Chelsea will drop points at the weekend.


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Marcus
Banbury
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SEMerc
13 December 2010 22:15:29

Man u 1 nil winners. Maybe not the best game but they did enough. 2 points clear with a game on hand and best ever unbeaten league start. Looking good for them.

Originally Posted by: NUT 


I think they'll lose to Chelsea and still believe Chelsea will win the PL (much as I hate to admit it). Chelsea, IMO are technically and physically stronger than Utd. Do you believe either Anderson, Park or Carrick (to name three obvious examples) would get into the Chelsea team? I certainly don't.


 

NUT
13 December 2010 22:25:06


Man u 1 nil winners. Maybe not the best game but they did enough. 2 points clear with a game on hand and best ever unbeaten league start. Looking good for them.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


I think they'll lose to Chelsea and still believe Chelsea will win the PL (much as I hate to admit it). Chelsea, IMO are technically and physically stronger than Utd. Do you believe either Anderson, Park or Carrick (to name three obvious examples) would get into the Chelsea team? I certainly don't.


 


Originally Posted by: NUT 


IF Chelsea can get out of this rut then yeah I agree it would look like they could have the title in the bag but they need to start playing. If they can't? I would surely think it would be Man U's title (although I think this might go to the last day and you got Man City lurking................)

SEMerc
13 December 2010 22:37:27



Man u 1 nil winners. Maybe not the best game but they did enough. 2 points clear with a game on hand and best ever unbeaten league start. Looking good for them.

Originally Posted by: NUT 


I think they'll lose to Chelsea and still believe Chelsea will win the PL (much as I hate to admit it). Chelsea, IMO are technically and physically stronger than Utd. Do you believe either Anderson, Park or Carrick (to name three obvious examples) would get into the Chelsea team? I certainly don't.


 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


IF Chelsea can get out of this rut then yeah I agree it would look like they could have the title in the bag but they need to start playing. If they can't? I would surely think it would be Man U's title (although I think this might go to the last day and you got Man City lurking................)


Originally Posted by: NUT 


Yep I agree with you that Chelsea need to improve. I think they have the class to do so.

wallaw
14 December 2010 08:37:11




Man u 1 nil winners. Maybe not the best game but they did enough. 2 points clear with a game on hand and best ever unbeaten league start. Looking good for them.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


I think they'll lose to Chelsea and still believe Chelsea will win the PL (much as I hate to admit it). Chelsea, IMO are technically and physically stronger than Utd. Do you believe either Anderson, Park or Carrick (to name three obvious examples) would get into the Chelsea team? I certainly don't.


 


Originally Posted by: NUT 


Whilst i do agree that Chelsea have the best squad and the best all round set up, they are not playing well and half an hour against Spurs (who had already decided to take the 1-0) does not change that. IF -and it's a big IF I know- Man United do manage to pinch all 3 points from Chelsea they will be 6 points ahead with their gimme in hand. Long way to go I know but 9 points ahead would be a cracking lead at Christmas.


IF Chelsea can get out of this rut then yeah I agree it would look like they could have the title in the bag but they need to start playing. If they can't? I would surely think it would be Man U's title (although I think this might go to the last day and you got Man City lurking................)


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Yep I agree with you that Chelsea need to improve. I think they have the class to do so.


Originally Posted by: NUT 


Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

future_is_orange
14 December 2010 18:25:29

It was a poor game last night, very sloppy at times. There are reasons for this the pitch, the occasion and SAF tactics. SAF played 3 hard working players in midfield and they nulled anything that Arsenal creative talents could muster. Fergie got one over on Wenger tactically and Man U ran out winners thanks to a rather fortunate Park header. It was pretty much a bounce game for Vidic and Ferdinand they made it look so easy.


Arsenal proved why they probably will not win the Prem title.. No leadership, no aggression, no desire and lacking in mental strength. Arsenal always have the majority of the ball against Man U and Chelsea but havent beaten either in 10 prem games.


Despite the win Man U need to strengthen in defence, midfield and require the replacement for VDS. Man U will be very happy with the win and a 2pt lead with a game in hand.


Arsenal... well i really dont know what it will take for them to achieve what some of their displays deserve. Maybe Wenger should look at buying one or two British players to give them the desire and aggression.


One thing that is a concern is only one player for Arsenal that was in the starting XI was British, likewise Man U starting XI there was only 4. Not good for British national sides and the ruling does need changed !! I am sorry but foreign playes brought over from abroad at a young age are not home grown players !!!!

Gooner
14 December 2010 19:49:48


It was a poor game last night, very sloppy at times. There are reasons for this the pitch, the occasion and SAF tactics. SAF played 3 hard working players in midfield and they nulled anything that Arsenal creative talents could muster. Fergie got one over on Wenger tactically and Man U ran out winners thanks to a rather fortunate Park header. It was pretty much a bounce game for Vidic and Ferdinand they made it look so easy.


Arsenal proved why they probably will not win the Prem title.. No leadership, no aggression, no desire and lacking in mental strength. Arsenal always have the majority of the ball against Man U and Chelsea but havent beaten either in 10 prem games.


Despite the win Man U need to strengthen in defence, midfield and require the replacement for VDS. Man U will be very happy with the win and a 2pt lead with a game in hand.


Arsenal... well i really dont know what it will take for them to achieve what some of their displays deserve. Maybe Wenger should look at buying one or two British players to give them the desire and aggression.


One thing that is a concern is only one player for Arsenal that was in the starting XI was British, likewise Man U starting XI there was only 4. Not good for British national sides and the ruling does need changed !! I am sorry but foreign playes brought over from abroad at a young age are not home grown players !!!!


Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


Thats a good post , I hear Wenger moaned about the state of the pitch and yopu couldnt play flowing football, well play the long ball you french idiot. Your right Arsenal need a couple of Fletchers . Man u (1st) Chelsea (2nd) Arsenal (3rd) IMO


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Banbury
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SEMerc
14 December 2010 20:27:04



It was a poor game last night, very sloppy at times. There are reasons for this the pitch, the occasion and SAF tactics. SAF played 3 hard working players in midfield and they nulled anything that Arsenal creative talents could muster. Fergie got one over on Wenger tactically and Man U ran out winners thanks to a rather fortunate Park header. It was pretty much a bounce game for Vidic and Ferdinand they made it look so easy.


Arsenal proved why they probably will not win the Prem title.. No leadership, no aggression, no desire and lacking in mental strength. Arsenal always have the majority of the ball against Man U and Chelsea but havent beaten either in 10 prem games.


Despite the win Man U need to strengthen in defence, midfield and require the replacement for VDS. Man U will be very happy with the win and a 2pt lead with a game in hand.


Arsenal... well i really dont know what it will take for them to achieve what some of their displays deserve. Maybe Wenger should look at buying one or two British players to give them the desire and aggression.


One thing that is a concern is only one player for Arsenal that was in the starting XI was British, likewise Man U starting XI there was only 4. Not good for British national sides and the ruling does need changed !! I am sorry but foreign playes brought over from abroad at a young age are not home grown players !!!!


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Thats a good post , I hear Wenger moaned about the state of the pitch and yopu couldnt play flowing football, well play the long ball you french idiot. Your right Arsenal need a couple of Fletchers . Man u (1st) Chelsea (2nd) Arsenal (3rd) IMO


Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


As I've said before, Arsenal's problem is lack of width. They seem intent on trying to play their way through defences. Barcelona can clearly do that, Arsenal cannot (all the time).

SEMerc
15 December 2010 11:20:31

Simply stunning. CSKA Moscow close to signing Modric. Oh, and they're willing to put up 18m euros to get him. Again, simply stunning.. I also enjoyed the other story I read this morning claiming 'Arry wants to buy Arsenal reject, Reyes.


 


http://www.goal.com/en/news/553/russia/2010/12/15/2261797/cska-moscow-in-talks-with-tottenham-to-sign-luka-modric

Gary L
15 December 2010 12:06:14


Justice done - Rooney screws up penalty after utterly disgraceful decisions by linesman and that moron, Webb. I always have a fear when Webb refs an OT game as it's usually a one goal advantage to Utd.


I almost feel sorry for Arsenal, having outplayed Utd in the second half, although Utd were clearly the better team in H1.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


It was an obvious penalty, came back off Clichy's hand as Nani tried to play it past him. It was an easy decision. Intentional or not it stopped Nani progressing further into the box, how Wenger can claim it wasn't a penalty is baffling!

SEMerc
15 December 2010 12:32:11



Justice done - Rooney screws up penalty after utterly disgraceful decisions by linesman and that moron, Webb. I always have a fear when Webb refs an OT game as it's usually a one goal advantage to Utd.


I almost feel sorry for Arsenal, having outplayed Utd in the second half, although Utd were clearly the better team in H1.


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


 


It was an obvious penalty, came back off Clichy's hand as Nani tried to play it past him. It was an easy decision. Intentional or not it stopped Nani progressing further into the box, how Wenger can claim it wasn't a penalty is baffling!


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Apart from the fact Clichy slipped, had to put his hand on the ground (which people normally do to break a fall) and the ball hit his hand, you are absolutely correct.

Gary L
15 December 2010 13:44:43




Justice done - Rooney screws up penalty after utterly disgraceful decisions by linesman and that moron, Webb. I always have a fear when Webb refs an OT game as it's usually a one goal advantage to Utd.


I almost feel sorry for Arsenal, having outplayed Utd in the second half, although Utd were clearly the better team in H1.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


It was an obvious penalty, came back off Clichy's hand as Nani tried to play it past him. It was an easy decision. Intentional or not it stopped Nani progressing further into the box, how Wenger can claim it wasn't a penalty is baffling!


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


Apart from the fact Clichy slipped, had to put his hand on the ground (which people normally do to break a fall) and the ball hit his hand, you are absolutely correct.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


He did all of that yes, but it's still a breach of the rules and a penalty. I am biased as a united fan though

SEMerc
17 December 2010 15:10:05

Oh dear, Paul Konchesky's mother apparently has a rant at Liverpool fans, (although it was posted a month ago and has only now gone viral).


http://swns.com/paul-koncheskys-mum-labels-liverpool-fans-scouse-scum-on-facebook-171324.html

future_is_orange
19 December 2010 09:05:16

Chelsea v Man U game called off. I think SAF would have been happier to have played the game with Chelsea in poor form and Man U still having not lost in the prem. Healthy and Saftey...blah blah. Just read comments made by Arry Redknapp he  is astonished todays game at the Bridge got postponed !!  I think this is a bit of gamesmanship by Chelsea.

wallaw
20 December 2010 10:49:32

World class save from Gordon on Saturday and another hard fought win from my lot. I've said this once or twice before, but in the last 20 years we would have lost that match (or certainly conceded) more of often than not. I'm not about to start going all Geordie and thinking we can get champions league or anything silly, but I do think that perhaps top 8 or 9 is a realistic aim for Sunderland this year.


Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

SEMerc
20 December 2010 11:49:57

World class save from Gordon on Saturday and another hard fought win from my lot. I've said this once or twice before, but in the last 20 years we would have lost that match (or certainly conceded) more of often than not. I'm not about to start going all Geordie and thinking we can get champions league or anything silly, but I do think that perhaps top 8 or 9 is a realistic aim for Sunderland this year.

Originally Posted by: wallaw 


I would agree with all of this. I actually had Sunderland pencilled in as finishing 7th this year. I think they are a better 'team' than Liverpool for example - even though they may not have (for the most part) the calibre of players the car thieves do. BTW, it was also a stunning save by Gordon.
wallaw
20 December 2010 12:41:43


World class save from Gordon on Saturday and another hard fought win from my lot. I've said this once or twice before, but in the last 20 years we would have lost that match (or certainly conceded) more of often than not. I'm not about to start going all Geordie and thinking we can get champions league or anything silly, but I do think that perhaps top 8 or 9 is a realistic aim for Sunderland this year.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

I would agree with all of this. I actually had Sunderland pencilled in as finishing 7th this year. I think they are a better 'team' than Liverpool for example - even though they may not have (for the most part) the calibre of players the car thieves do. BTW, it was also a stunning save by Gordon.

Originally Posted by: wallaw 


The top 5 are pretty much 'nailed on' (to coin a phrase from model output), the placings are from nailed obviously but Man U, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea and Spurs will have those 5 places done and dusted. There are still some good teams that will make a strong push in the new year, Everton, Liverpool, perhaps Villa and with the league being so tight, if anyone of those teams goes on a bit of a run then they will no doubt go passed us. But I'm pretty confident of top 8 at the moment.


Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

Saint Snow
20 December 2010 14:52:35

[quote=wallaw;104549]I think they are a better 'team' than Liverpool for example

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


FFS, Merc.... Accrington Stanley are a better team than Liverpool at the moment.


 



Martin
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SEMerc
20 December 2010 16:41:53

I was being polite, Saint - unusual for me I know.


Anyway, the Spanish waiter denies he has been sacked. Perhaps he hasn't heard yet.


http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2010/12/20/2269974/rafael-benitez-inter-sacked-me-no-im-still-the-coach

SEMerc
20 December 2010 21:56:53
And Citeh screw it up.
Gooner
20 December 2010 23:28:06

Yep poor from City , good win for Everton though


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Marcus
Banbury
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future_is_orange
21 December 2010 09:05:07


Yep poor from City , good win for Everton though


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Very poor result for Shiteh the merry band of mercenaries unable to muster a result as the Big Teams in the league had a weekend off. Hopefully we will get a full card over the festive season.

Saint Snow
21 December 2010 10:05:33

Mancini, Ancellotti & Wenger all trying to present old Baconface with the Premier League trophy on a silver platter


I just wish Liverpool had their 2008/9 team this season



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
wallaw
21 December 2010 10:38:29


Mancini, Ancellotti & Wenger all trying to present old Baconface with the Premier League trophy on a silver platter


I just wish Liverpool had their 2008/9 team this season


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Sure is an odd league this year Saint, but I'm still expecting Chelsea to win it. City were always going to be hit and miss and I might get shouted at for saying this but Arsenal would have won a few trophies in the last 4 years if they had replaced Wenger..........perhaps even with the squad as it is.


Liverpool could well still end up top 6


Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

future_is_orange
21 December 2010 10:42:37


Mancini, Ancellotti & Wenger all trying to present old Baconface with the Premier League trophy on a silver platter


I just wish Liverpool had their 2008/9 team this season


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


It is looking good for Man U at the moment in a fairly strong position at the top and really not playing at their best. Getting Valencia back will be a big plus for Man U and hopefully we will manage to keep the top players fit as Man U really dont have the strength in depth. Has been a really odd premeirship season, very unpredictable and i still believe Liverpool could nick a European spot...tho facing Man U in the cup doesnt do them many favours.

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