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Gavin D
25 July 2018 08:43:04

One thing also worth keeping an eye on is the overnight minimum temps the current July record is 23.3c in  St James's Park, London set way back in 1948


That could be broken over the few nights


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Rob K
25 July 2018 09:22:54

Arpege has updated now and lost the extreme temperatures for Friday. Now 34 max tomorrow and 33 Friday with the hot air pushed away more rapidly. Also looks a lot drier for the southeast on Fri now but shows some storms in central southern parts tomorrow.


 


Meanwhile GFS has upped the heat a bit, giving 34C on Friday.


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25 July 2018 10:01:20
GFS 06z giving us an autumnal weekend.
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Rob K
25 July 2018 10:03:42

What a difference 24 hours makes.


 


Yesterday's 6Z chart for 12Z Saturday:



 


And today's:



 


 


Wet for just about everyone, where yesterday there was nothing. Big change in a short time.


 



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superteacher
25 July 2018 10:18:50
There is no way that GFS will be correct with how it deepens that low. Totally over the top.
Sevendust
25 July 2018 10:18:58


Well comparing op runs on the 6z doesn't mean a lot without ensemble backing.


Rain is much needed but I am concerned that we will largely miss out again before another settled pattern emerges

Rob K
25 July 2018 10:21:43

There is no way that GFS will be correct with how it deepens that low. Totally over the top.

Originally Posted by: superteacher 


GEM does it too. 


And UKMO brings the low across the UK too, although not to quite the same extent.



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sunnyramsgate
25 July 2018 10:23:08
Been here before watch the heat build after the weekend
Rob K
25 July 2018 10:28:03

Been here before watch the heat build after the weekend

Originally Posted by: sunnyramsgate 


Yes it certainly looks like following the same pattern, just a shame if the drought records get spoilt by a badly forecast low incursion. 


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superteacher
25 July 2018 10:28:09


 


GEM does it too. 


And UKMO brings the low across the UK too, although not to quite the same extent.



Originally Posted by: Rob K 

ECM also not as aggressive. I think the way the low behaves will depend on what happens on Friday when the low engages the very hot air.

Rob K
25 July 2018 10:29:23

Plume incoming, could be a hot run.



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xioni2
25 July 2018 10:33:19


What a difference 24 hours makes.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Pretty small difference actually in terms of large scale pattern 


But big difference obviously for local details, which only shows how easy to change back.

Jiries
25 July 2018 10:34:15


Arpege has updated now and lost the extreme temperatures for Friday. Now 34 max tomorrow and 33 Friday with the hot air pushed away more rapidly. Also looks a lot drier for the southeast on Fri now but shows some storms in central southern parts tomorrow.


 


Meanwhile GFS has upped the heat a bit, giving 34C on Friday.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


That right as the 15-16C uppers line take all day Friday so there enough time for real heat to achieved before the cooler air arrive early on Saturday morning.

Rob K
25 July 2018 10:41:56

That's a hell of a hot blob of air to our south, if it can just get a bit of oomph to head north! Even this chart would give low 30s to much of the south.


 



 


 


On this run even the Yorkshire Dales will hit 26C+ on the 5th, not quite what I want for a full day of exertion!


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picturesareme
25 July 2018 10:58:30


 


Tgis is probably the difference between inshore / tidal waters and open sea temperatures. I can well imagine Chichester harbour, which is quite shallow, getting to 25C.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Exactly, inshore waters in the Solent region getting into the low twenties during the summer months are surprisingly not that uncommon. I've never seen them as high as 25C but 21/22C yes.


It's currently 21.4C @ Bramble Bank.


Here is a link to Bramblemet sea temps - through here there are links to a few other stations in the Solent region.


 


http://www.bramblemet.co.uk/(S(psesho3d0r2dlf55cg352n55))/default.aspx

The Beast from the East
25 July 2018 11:12:03

GFS 06z giving us an autumnal weekend.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


Yes, the drought is coming to an end. In the past, when the pattern breaks, it stays broken


I'm not convinced the high will build back again. John Hammond may be correct


 


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LeedsLad123
25 July 2018 11:18:53


 


Yes, the drought is coming to an end. In the past, when the pattern breaks, it stays broken


I'm not convinced the high will build back again. John Hammond may be correct


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I direct you to this thread: https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19077


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Arcus
25 July 2018 11:22:20


 


Yes, the drought is coming to an end. In the past, when the pattern breaks, it stays broken


I'm not convinced the high will build back again. John Hammond may be correct


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


A flick through 06z GEFS members for Wednesday next week indicates around 90% have a strong build of high pressure back over, or to the east of, the UK. Given the confidence of the forecasters' predictions of heat building again next week, it's a fair assumption that quite a few other models' ENS members are showing a similar pattern.


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Arcus
25 July 2018 11:24:36


 


That right as the 15-16C uppers line take all day Friday so there enough time for real heat to achieved before the cooler air arrive early on Saturday morning.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


See my post in the Summer Chat thread - MetO going for 37c in parts of SE on Friday, 30% chance of all-time UK temperature record being broken, dependant on cloud amounts.


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SJV
25 July 2018 11:28:19


 


Yes, the drought is coming to an end. In the past, when the pattern breaks, it stays broken


I'm not convinced the high will build back again. John Hammond may be correct


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Again, no actual evidence to back up this  There is support across the models for a re-build of high pressure yet you think one bog-standard area of low pressure that may only give some showery rain to eastern areas is going to break the pattern 


Oh to be a mod again 

Brian Gaze
25 July 2018 12:03:23

Some astonishingly hot runs in the 6z update. 



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25 July 2018 12:04:17
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten.php?map=1&model=gfs&var=2&run=6&time=180&lid=P06&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 

Maxima suggesting we would get at least 3, maybe 5 or 6 shots at the all time heat record.
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Jiries
25 July 2018 12:19:16

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


Very hot one and not sure why they put too much precips as it was correct less before but anyway it won;t happen as i seen those freak high precis not coming off.  In order to get record high temps next week it need to stay dry so the ground can support higher temperatures.

briggsy6
25 July 2018 12:45:10

When you look at the global temperature maps shown on the front of today's tabloids it's no wonder really we're seeing such an extroadinary heatwave this Summer. A sign of things to come methinks.


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Gavin D
25 July 2018 13:13:26

Another 1c rise from the Met office for Friday the July record would go with that getting oh so close to the all time record as well


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