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speckledjim
27 February 2020 10:46:08


 


Bloody French ahead of us.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


And we're well behind Germany, same old same old

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Brian Gaze
27 February 2020 10:48:06


Schoolchildren must be praying for closures. I remember in the 80s when it snowed and we were told not to come in. Happiest days of my life!


I could stay at home and watch Rolf Harris fiddling around with Morph and Philip Schofield playing with a glove puppet controlled by a man kneeling between his legs


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


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Saint Snow
27 February 2020 10:50:10


I see Xioni is still  on the complacency bus.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


It's more the que sera, sera bus.


 


 


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The Beast from the East
27 February 2020 10:50:25


More on the Japanese double infection - this is truly alarming in epidemiological terms:


"A woman working as a tour bus guide in Japan tested positive for the coronavirus a second time after an apparent recovery, the first in the country to do so as the infection continues to spread globally. 


The Osaka resident, in her forties, first tested positive in late January after leading a tour that included visitors from China’s Wuhan, the outbreak epicentre. She was discharged from the hospital after recovering on February 1, prefectural authorities said in a statement.


On Wednesday, however, she tested positive again after developing a sore throat and chest pains about a week ago."


I see Xioni is still  on the complacency bus.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


You mentioned Chickenpox. I got shingles a few years ago and it was terrible, I got it in the eye and it looked like I had been beaten up


The virus is dormant and triggers at times of stress or tiredness


If Covid 19 can do the same, it would be a game changer. So impressive it could have been made in a lab as a bioweapon


 

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Essan
27 February 2020 10:55:37

Death toll from the epidemic in France now up to 44, with many thousands sick ....   Why isn't this headline news?

https://www.thelocal.fr/20200225/france-declares-flu-epidemic-as-26-people-die

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Brian Gaze
27 February 2020 10:55:54


I see Xioni is still  on the complacency bus.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Most bosses still aren't instructing their staff to work from home even when the job allows it. At a stroke the spread of the virus could be slowed down and ways of working could be brought into the 21st Century. 

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Maunder Minimum
27 February 2020 10:57:15


 


You mentioned Chickenpox. I got shingles a few years ago and it was terrible, I got it in the eye and it looked like I had been beaten up


The virus is dormant and triggers at times of stress or tiredness


If Covid 19 can do the same, it would be a game changer. So impressive it could have been made in a lab as a bioweapon


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


So some wacky theories on the internet have suggested. The smart money is on Chinese eating practices being to blame, with some suggestions of cross species transfer involving pangolins and bats - wonder whether they will ever be able to trace the origins?


But I am glad you get the point about the virus becoming dormant and then re-emerging - if the patient becomes contagious once again, then this virus is going to be around for ever and we will just have to get used to it - hopefully a vaccine will be approved sooner rather than later.


On the topic of complacency, some still don't appear to grasp the impact - it is not the number of deaths we need to worry about, but the level of ICU treatment which is required. The Chinese experience suggests a 20% hospitalisation rate, which would very quickly overwhelm health services in an epidemic.

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Ally Pally Snowman
27 February 2020 10:59:09


Schoolchildren must be praying for closures. I remember in the 80s when it snowed and we were told not to come in. Happiest days of my life!


I could stay at home and watch Rolf Harris fiddling around with Morph and Philip Schofield playing with a glove puppet controlled by a man kneeling between his legs


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


LOL. 

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xioni2
27 February 2020 10:59:59


I see Xioni is still  on the complacency bus.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


It'd be better to be on that one instead of the silly speculation bus, but I am on neither. 

Maunder Minimum
27 February 2020 11:00:47


Death toll from the epidemic in France now up to 44, with many thousands sick ....   Why isn't this headline news?

https://www.thelocal.fr/20200225/france-declares-flu-epidemic-as-26-people-die


Originally Posted by: Essan 


And of course, people fighting influenza will be more susceptible to corona virus and complications deriving therefrom.

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Brian Gaze
27 February 2020 11:02:11


 


It'd be better to be on that one instead of the silly speculation bus, but I am on neither. 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Indeed. Perhaps Maunder could do his but by persuading some of the Brexit Bulldogs that it isn't girly to wash their hands after going to the loo. 

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Maunder Minimum
27 February 2020 11:03:54


 


Indeed. Perhaps Maunder could do his but by persuading some of the Brexit Bulldogs that it isn't girly to wash their hands after going to the loo. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Given that my wife and daughter are constantly nagging about hand washing, that simply won't wash.

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speckledjim
27 February 2020 11:04:28


Death toll from the epidemic in France now up to 44, with many thousands sick ....   Why isn't this headline news?

https://www.thelocal.fr/20200225/france-declares-flu-epidemic-as-26-people-die


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Why would flu deaths in France be headline news in the UK?

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Brian Gaze
27 February 2020 11:05:57


 


Given that my wife and daughter are constantly nagging about hand washing, that simply won't wash.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


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speckledjim
27 February 2020 11:07:29
Japan's Prime Minister has requested that all schools in the Country close until the end of March. My kids would just love that.....
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Brian Gaze
27 February 2020 11:08:31


Death toll from the epidemic in France now up to 44, with many thousands sick ....   Why isn't this headline news?

https://www.thelocal.fr/20200225/france-declares-flu-epidemic-as-26-people-die


Originally Posted by: Essan 


There have been twice as many deaths in the UK and I've not seen it in the news once.


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/867172/Weekly_national_influenza_report_week_8_2020.pdf


 

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Maunder Minimum
27 February 2020 11:08:54


 


Why would flu deaths in France be headline news in the UK?


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


On the topic of France:


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/26/unclean-french-continue-flout-basic-personal-hygiene-rules-study/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget


 

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Ally Pally Snowman
27 February 2020 11:11:44

Japan's Prime Minister has requested that all schools in the Country close until the end of March. My kids would just love that.....

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


 


Mine too! Would the UK government actually do this though.  A major UK outbreak seems very likely now.


 

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xioni2
27 February 2020 11:12:37


 There have been twice as many deaths in the UK and I've not seen it in the news once.


https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/867172/Weekly_national_influenza_report_week_8_2020.pdf


 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


We were discussing this over coffee a few days ago and a girl made a vital contribution by saying "yes, but the flu isn't contagious, is it".


 

Heavy Weather 2013
27 February 2020 11:18:13


 


 


Mine too! Would the UK government actually do this though.  A major UK outbreak seems very likely now.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Agreed, the evidence and spread is certainly suggesting this may be the case. Its going to decimate the football season I suspect. But the correct approach.

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Ally Pally Snowman
27 February 2020 11:23:43


 


Agreed, the evidence and spread is certainly suggesting this may be the case. Its going to decimate the football season I suspect. But the correct approach.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


it's definitely ramping up in Europe today just in the last hour. 2 more in Switzerland,  2 in Madrid, 2 in Greece and cases in Austria and Israel. The Madrid cases have no history of travel to any major outbreak area.


 

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speckledjim
27 February 2020 11:31:04


 


 


Mine too! Would the UK government actually do this though.  A major UK outbreak seems very likely now.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


What is the definition of a major UK outbreak then? 

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Heavy Weather 2013
27 February 2020 11:42:38


 


 


it's definitely ramping up in Europe today just in the last hour. 2 more in Switzerland,  2 in Madrid, 2 in Greece and cases in Austria and Israel. The Madrid cases have no history of travel to any major outbreak area.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


This is a serious worry. Perhaps a new contagion area developing similar to Italy, Iran and SK.

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Ally Pally Snowman
27 February 2020 11:53:08


 


 


What is the definition of a major UK outbreak then? 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


 


Well Japan has about 210 confirmed cases and 4 deaths so something similar to that. 


 

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speckledjim
27 February 2020 12:00:02


 


 


Well Japan has about 210 confirmed cases and 4 deaths so something similar to that. 


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Surely you would need to factor in the population of the country? There are twice as many people living in Japan so perhaps (by your definition) a major outbreak in the UK would be when we have 105 cases and 2 deaths. I'm sure the government will have a definition too but I have no idea what that is.

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