Facebook spreading lies again

Zuckerburg should be arrested

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Seems we are only six arse wipings from anarchy.

— Al Murray - DKMS.ORG.UK (@almurray) March 7, 2020

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Eye test time again, perhaps, Beast? Or maybe you are happier the way you are? I am!

 

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Yes, he's just the kind of guy you need leading the most powerful nation on earth  during an international emergency.

Time for a cool and rational  leader  to be in charge and  we have an unhinged lunatic !   Any chance of getting him sectioned (or whatever the Septics do in such circumstances)  ?

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Shut it all down !!

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BREAKING: Researchers in Germany have identified a potential drug for COVID19.
For attaching to ACE2 receptors, the SARS-CoV-2 requires a protease TMPRSS2. Camostat mesilate (a drug used in pancreatitis) inhibits TMPRSS2 and has been found to block virus entry into lung cells. pic.twitter.com/txS9eH720F

— Coronavirus (COVID-19) Alerts (@coronaviruscare) March 7, 2020

Why would it be a 'balls up'?  Someone with underlying health conditions turns up with no risk factor for exposure to Covid-19. Are you suggesting that anyone turning up at hospital should be wuRantined and tested first?  I think that's nigh on impossible.

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It is completely random. An inability to weigh up risk and the resulting tendency to panic; the herd instinct (othe people are doing it; what am I missing? Better join in, just in case).

 

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Did mine early this morning too and the shelves were full of everything but liquid hand wash, which I buy regularly for the dispenser in our cloakroom, but a bar of soap will do.  Yesterday our local Aldi had pocket sized hand sanitizer for 41p.  I only bought one to keep in the car for cleansing after using shopping trolleys, which to my mind, are the worst for spreading disease.  The escalator handrail in our local Asda is just as bad and the recorded message constantly tells you to hold onto the handrail. 

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bean counters looking at cost models across western nations have been pulling the strings for too long. How much is the notion of risk and the robustness of the relevant supply chain factored into decision making? My guess is very little - we seem to have our eggs in one or two baskets. We’ve seen it to some extent in O&G and that is relatively specialist/high tech.

Print part one as well, that’ll keep you going for twice as long. 

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This was in the news yesterday. They need to replicate the effect in a trial next and check there aren't unexpected side effects.

But if the effects are reproduceable in patients it may have potential.  But it's a treatment, not a means of prevention, so it won't stop the likely pandemic.

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That's what you get when you hand control over to corporations whose only motivation is profit maximisation.

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Testing the robustness of the supply chain would suggest that trading with far flung nations is sub-optimal. That clearly has implications for our decision to leave the EU.

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To be fair we consumers (the vast majority) seem to place lowest cost at the top of our priorities. You can hardly blame businesses for responding to that by seeking countries where costs are lower.

Indeed, cost reduction was a significant factor in the decision to move some government departments out of London to Wales, Scotland and the north of England.

Nobody wants to pay more than they have to for anything. The counterbalance is, as discussed above, maintaining security of supply.

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I thought this was a point well made. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/100003340269924/posts/2809958409125474/?d=n 

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Don't have FB, so it won't allow me to see it (is this a change in FB policy, as I'm sure they used to allow access to pages without being a signed-up stooge)

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Weird, maybe I posted the wrong link. 

Anyway the doctor said this. 

“I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

#washurhands #geturflushot #respect #patiencenotpanic “

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One of the recommendations from the WHO report on China is to test everyone with a fever. 

 Many points well made indeed Joe.

Re. The drug thing, the relationship between ACE2 and SARS-related mechanism of action is not a new one and an effective treatment using that approach could be a long way off or possibly not even effective. A lot of work will need to be done over a period of time before/if we are to see any related medicine in widespread use for COVID-19.

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Great post!

its not even that. Although, that is some part of it. It’s the whole attitude to risk that has become skewed.

But, they have pretty much the same issues elsewhere in the EU. They’ve outsourced much the same “stuff” we have. 

Was thinking about supply chain robustness around the time of the “beast from the east”. If we had a 63 style winter nowadays I think we’d be in serious shit. The current system is far more efficient than the old days when things are running as they should do. With warehousing and stocking becoming centralised to build in efficiencies to drive down cost we become more susceptible to unforeseen events. I think there is a solution somewhere but it needs some serious analysis and thought.

This is such a classic exchange:

"I just want one pack!" a woman is heard saying to the other woman and her mother.

"No, not one pack," the mother of the woman responds, shielding her trolley which is full of toilet paper.