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Heavy Weather 2013
09 March 2020 13:26:24


After today's announcement, it is clear that HMG is prioritising the economy over delaying the spread of Covid-19. This is extremely disappointing news and shows very poor judgement at the top of government. It looks like they are content to let it rip.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Yes - very disappointing indeed. Essentially, its nothing to see here, as you were. 


I suspect things can and will unravel very fast in the coming days. Boris has to be very careful - he will find out very quickly how any goodwill he has built up can quickly dissapear. 

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
09 March 2020 13:26:43

xioni2
09 March 2020 13:30:06


 I am also still if the mindset that because of its nature it will spread almost irrespective of our actions and the best we can do is to mitigate that spread and prepare. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


That's what that virologist had told me too, but isn't it the case that several countries have managed to slow down significantly (almost stalling) its spread?

Ulric
09 March 2020 13:31:08


A case of reinfection, which I never read anything more about.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


 


https://www.smh.com.au/national/can-you-get-coronavirus-twice-20200305-p5476m.html


 

To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
NickR
09 March 2020 13:32:29




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


That the PM feels he can get away with such a non reply on something so serious shows just where our media have helped take us. Even worse: he's right - he WILL get away with this reply.

Nick
Durham
[email protected]
Chunky Pea
09 March 2020 13:34:58

Just looking at this map, which is apparently updated up to today (there is no way of knowing if this is the case) and I find the distribution of the virus interesting, in that the concentration of cases is highest in western Europe:


 



From: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases

Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 

"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
Justin W
09 March 2020 13:35:24


 


That the PM feels he can get away with such a non reply on something so serious shows just where our media have helped take us. Even worse: he's right - he WILL get away with this reply.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


 


The coming fiasco is going to be quite a show

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
09 March 2020 13:36:26


 That the PM feels he can get away with such a non reply on something so serious shows just where our media have helped take us. Even worse: he's right - he WILL get away with this reply.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Brexit, Corbyn and the Tory press have created a lot of hubris. This is also a PM who has been getting away with so much in his life, so much so that it has caused that semi-permanent smirk on his face. 


Let's hope that nemesis will follow one day, we got to trust the ancient Greeks and their wisdom. 


 

John p
09 March 2020 13:36:35

Tin foil hat time, but this staggering incompetence from the US and the UK must be by design, almost as an opportunity?


Are they happy to take the short term hit on the health care systems, as long as they don’t crash the economies - plus they wipe out the elderly and infirm, thus taking easing the burden on social and health care significantly in the future.


This has got Cummings written all over it.


*throws tin foil hat away*

Camberley, Surrey
Roger Parsons
09 March 2020 13:37:10


My point is that we cannot really draw many firm conclusions from the currently available evidence. There is a risk of misinformation (accidental and deliberate). 


I am also still if the mindset that because of its nature it will spread almost irrespective of our actions and the best we can do is to mitigate that spread and prepare. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


That's the long and the short of it, DrM.


We were reflecting today that in 50 years we have only caught flu 3 times each without taking any avoiding action, except in latter years when a flu vaccine became available. Working on a roughly similar risk for Covid-19 we stand good chance of avoiding it completely, using a bit of applied common sense, though what will be will be, of course.


We are mostly adequately prepared. Because I have underlying health issues I shall try to avoid doing anything too foolish once it shows up locally! We went to our Monday exercise class today for example. If I hear of any fellow jogglers who are down with it I shall call a halt to that immediately.


R.

RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Heavy Weather 2013
09 March 2020 13:38:39

Trading has been halted on the NY Stock Exhchange

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
NickR
09 March 2020 13:38:39


Tin foil hat time, but this staggering incompetence from the US and the UK must be by design, almost as an opportunity?


Are they happy to take the short term hit on the health care systems, as long as they don’t crash the economies - plus they wipe out the elderly and infirm, thus taking easing the burden on social and health care significantly in the future.


This has got Cummings written all over it.


*throws tin foil hat away*


Originally Posted by: John p 


I'm reaching this conclusion too. That said, the 'surely they can't be this incompetent?' level is pretty high for this govt.

Nick
Durham
[email protected]
xioni2
09 March 2020 13:39:36

This is a Sunni Muslim designed virus, or probably an African one in order to take revenge on the Western masses and elites and their Chinese wannabes.


 



Just looking at this map, which is apparently updated up to today (there is no way of knowing if this is the case) and I find the distribution of the virus interesting, in that the concentration of cases is highest in western Europe:


 



From: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

bowser
09 March 2020 13:39:57

Has the WHO declared a global pandemic yet?

Heavy Weather 2013
09 March 2020 13:41:31

COBRA are meeting again on Wednesday.


I am not happy with the Government today - their approach seem far to relaxed.  

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
warrenb
09 March 2020 13:41:38
So government announcement basically says, we know it is going to get bad, but we are not prepared at the moment to do anything about it.
Tonbridge 45m 
warrenb
09 March 2020 13:42:09


Has the WHO declared a global pandemic yet?


Originally Posted by: bowser 


 


They wouldn't do that if there was only two of them left.

Tonbridge 45m 
xioni2
09 March 2020 13:42:47


Has the WHO declared a global pandemic yet?


Originally Posted by: bowser 


I think they will only declare it if/when containment fails globally. 

Chunky Pea
09 March 2020 13:43:09


This is a Sunni Muslim designed virus, or probably an African one in order to take revenge on the Western masses and elites and their Chinese wannabes.


 


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Or maybe we just have a shite climate! 

Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 

"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
bowser
09 March 2020 13:43:42


Tin foil hat time, but this staggering incompetence from the US and the UK must be by design, almost as an opportunity?


Are they happy to take the short term hit on the health care systems, as long as they don’t crash the economies - plus they wipe out the elderly and infirm, thus taking easing the burden on social and health care significantly in the future.


This has got Cummings written all over it.


*throws tin foil hat away*


Originally Posted by: John p 


In fairness he pointed out the risks of a pandemic a year ago. Doubt we will ever know the truth about the source of the virus however.


https://dominiccummings.com/2019/03/04/the-most-secure-bio-labs-routinely-make-errors-that-could-cause-a-global-pandemic-are-about-to-re-start-experiments-on-pathogens-engineered-to-make-them-mammalian-airborne-transmissible/

xioni2
09 March 2020 13:44:24


Tin foil hat time, but this staggering incompetence from the US and the UK must be by design, almost as an opportunity?


Are they happy to take the short term hit on the health care systems, as long as they don’t crash the economies - plus they wipe out the elderly and infirm, thus taking easing the burden on social and health care significantly in the future.


This has got Cummings written all over it.


*throws tin foil hat away*


Originally Posted by: John p 


One problem with that theory is that most of that elderly population is their voters


Maunder Minimum
09 March 2020 13:46:02


Just looking at this map, which is apparently updated up to today (there is no way of knowing if this is the case) and I find the distribution of the virus interesting, in that the concentration of cases is highest in western Europe:


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


Iran is probably right now the worst affected country in absolute terms - they would not be releasing 70,000 prisoners otherwise.


When it comes to Europe, that is easily explained - unfortunately, the outbreak in Italy coincided with half term in most European countries and those Italian ski slopes were beckoning - that is why it has spread so rapidly from Italy to the rest of Europe.


 

New world order coming.
Justin W
09 March 2020 13:46:46

So government announcement basically says, we know it is going to get bad, but we are not prepared at the moment to do anything about it.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


 


Staggering. Unbelievable. 

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
speckledjim
09 March 2020 13:47:01


This is concerning:


"A pupil at a school in Warwickshire is self-isolating at home after being diagnosed with Covid-19.


The Rugby Free Secondary School said it had been given confirmation of the diagnosis by Public Health England (PHE) on Sunday.


The pupil had visited Italy over half-term and self-isolated for 14 days before returning to school, but then developed symptoms at the weekend."


- so he self isolated for 14 days before symptoms.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


If he went skiing with family then he may have got it whilst self isolating at home from another family member. We need the full facts.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
xioni2
09 March 2020 13:49:46


 If he went skiing with family then he may have got it whilst self isolating at home from another family member. We need the full facts.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


That's a possibility. The WHO report on China also says that the vast majority of transmission in Wuhan occurred between family members.


 

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