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Heavy Weather 2013
13 March 2020 09:34:09

Breaking: Everton first-team squad in self-isolation after player reported symptoms

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


They played Chelsea last weekend...


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Maunder Minimum
13 March 2020 09:35:22

Breaking: Everton first-team squad in self-isolation after player reported symptoms

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


So, football will close down without the government forcing it. You don't necessarily need government action to get an effect.


New world order coming.
Heavy Weather 2013
13 March 2020 09:35:54

Breaking: A London Underground driver has tested positive for coronavirus, sources tell PA


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
13 March 2020 09:36:18
A London Underground driver has tested positive for coronavirus, sources tell PA

Source: Sky News live blog

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-markets-crash-as-world-reacts-to-pandemic-11955867 
xioni2
13 March 2020 09:37:11


Breaking: A London Underground driver has tested positive for coronavirus, sources tell PA


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I think it's fast becoming pointless to keep posting who got it. Soon it should be news who hasn't got it yet.


 

Heavy Weather 2013
13 March 2020 09:38:12

A London Underground driver has tested positive for coronavirus, sources tell PA

Source: Sky News live blog

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

">https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-markets-crash-as-world-reacts-to-pandemic-11955867


London had the most number of cases yesterday. We cannot afford London to become a hotspot. The impact would be catastrophic.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gandalf The White
13 March 2020 09:39:29


 


So, football will close down without the government forcing it. You don't necessarily need government action to get an effect.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Exactly.


In the same way that you don't need the WHO to declare a pandemic to get an effect.


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Brian Gaze
13 March 2020 09:40:40

A London Underground driver has tested positive for coronavirus, sources tell PA

Source: Sky News live blog

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-markets-crash-as-world-reacts-to-pandemic-11955867


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


It's been obvious for weeks the London Underground is a disaster waiting to happen. It has the potential to trigger a Lombardy style meltdown. Quite why more hasn't been done already to slow down spread (work from home, shut lines, spread passenger use out of the peak times etc) is beyond me.


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Maunder Minimum
13 March 2020 10:11:25

Spain - this is what happens if healthcare workers lack proper clothing (hazmat):


"Local police were sent to patrol roads into Igualada, Vilanova del Camí, Santa Margarida de Montbui and Òdena, after three elderly people died in the local hospital in Igualada and 49 others were infected.


More than 30 of those infected are health care professionals."


 


New world order coming.
DEW
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13 March 2020 10:13:24


Not a nice thought to contemplate, Roger.


There is a half-way house if necessary: one upstairs and one down, as you’re unlikely to fall ill at the same time and to the same degree.  Not ideal - and of course you can swap if sleeping on the sofa is a problem.


I’m banking on most cases being mild because there’s no point in worrying about it as it’s not fully under our control. Sensible measures - as are being recommended: social distancing and lots of hand washing.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Modified of course in our case (and maybe others) as my wife with dementia, unable to walk or feed herself and longstanding diabetes type 1, is totally dependent on me remaining fit and attending to her.


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Maunder Minimum
13 March 2020 10:13:43


 


It's been obvious for weeks the London Underground is a disaster waiting to happen. It has the potential to trigger a Lombardy style meltdown. Quite why more hasn't been done already to slow down spread (work from home, shut lines, spread passenger use out of the peak times etc) is beyond me.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Not as bad as feared - he had been on holiday and was self isolating:


"The Tube driver who tested positive for coronavirus works on the Jubilee Line, but has been off work this week after coming back from holiday in Vietnam.


A message sent to staff said he had been self-isolating, and had now tested positive for Covid-19.


A Transport for London (TfL) spokesman tells PA that he wasn't working in a customer-facing area."


New world order coming.
chelseagirl
13 March 2020 10:15:51


Spain - this is what happens if healthcare workers lack proper clothing (hazmat):


"Local police were sent to patrol roads into Igualada, Vilanova del Camí, Santa Margarida de Montbui and Òdena, after three elderly people died in the local hospital in Igualada and 49 others were infected.


More than 30 of those infected are health care professionals."


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Spain now up to 633 new cases since midnight. 


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The Beast from the East
13 March 2020 10:22:11


 


Clearly, Hunt is not a gambler.


I am in two minds about this. My preferred strategy would have been the one adopted by countries like Taiwan - close and monitor borders to keep it out. But far too late for that now, so since we are where we are, let's try life as normal for as long as possible - the strategy will only collapse if the NHS is overwhelmed and too many start to die. If we can smooth the peak and get through the next 2 months, then fine.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Listening to LBC this morning and it seems NHS 111 has basically gone into meltdown with cases but telling people that nothing can be done. Sick people will still have to go to hospital, so the govt cant really cover this up if we end up like Lombardy


Yes, they can pretend the numbers are low because they are not testing, but they cant hide the dead


 


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The Beast from the East
13 March 2020 10:24:41

The main problem for me with the UK approach is that no one else is taking it. This means that if other countries pass their peak earlier and cases are reduced, they can reopen to everyone except for the UK, who will be an outcast regardless of whether the approach was correct. UK government seems to be banking that it will be impossible to control the reintroduction of the virus from unknown sources once restrictions are lifted

Originally Posted by: Chidog 


Good point. The economic impact will actually do more damage to us. If we become known worldwide as a diseased population, no one is going to trade with us or let our people travel


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Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Brian Gaze
13 March 2020 10:28:18


 


Good point. The economic impact will actually do more damage to us. If we become known worldwide as a diseased population, no one is going to trade with us or let our people travel


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Even more true if we become a deceased population.


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xioni2
13 March 2020 10:29:07


 Good point. The economic impact will actually do more damage to us. If we become known worldwide as a diseased population, no one is going to trade with us or let our people travel


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I am supposed to fly in Milan in mid-May, it wouldn't surprise me if things were under control there by that time, but flights out of the UK were banned.


  

Justin W
13 March 2020 10:34:21

We've seen limited outbreaks of panic buying so far but I wonder what is going to happen next week if the enormity of this thing starts to sink in with the great British people. Today feels like the calm before the storm.


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Maunder Minimum
13 March 2020 10:35:19


 


Listening to LBC this morning and it seems NHS 111 has basically gone into meltdown with cases but telling people that nothing can be done. Sick people will still have to go to hospital, so the govt cant really cover this up if we end up like Lombardy


Yes, they can pretend the numbers are low because they are not testing, but they cant hide the dead


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


No point going to hospital if you are simply sick. Only those who need ICU should be taken to hospital.


New world order coming.
xioni2
13 March 2020 10:37:29


We've seen limited outbreaks of panic buying so far but I wonder what is going to happen next week if the enormity of this thing starts to sink in with the great British people. Today feels like the calm before the storm.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


My better half went to sainsburys this morning and apparently the supermarket was fully stocked except for hand sanitiser. That did surprise me actually.


 

Justin W
13 March 2020 10:37:29

This is the sort of thing that will lead to so much tragedy:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-share-markets-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news?page=with:block-5e6b610c8f085f0b8d947d1e#block-5e6b610c8f085f0b8d947d1e

Originally Posted by: NickR 


 


Yes, horrendous. For all the bluster, this country is particularly unprepared for a dangerous epidemic. From my 10 days on a ward post op last September, I saw just how short staffed and overworked doctors, nurses and other housekeeping staff were and that was at the tail end of summer. I'm convinced that when this thing takes off, the NHS will be overwhelmed almost immediately.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
13 March 2020 10:40:41


 Yes, horrendous. For all the bluster, this country is particularly unprepared for a dangerous epidemic. From my 10 days on a ward post op last September, I saw just how short staffed and overworked doctors, nurses and other housekeeping staff were and that was at the tail end of summer. I'm convinced that when this thing takes off, the NHS will be overwhelmed almost immediately.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I also wonder how long this herd immunity strategy will last if say in a month's time there is a rapidly growing number of deaths. The govt will come under a lot of pressure to react and they may conflate/confuse their strategy.

Justin W
13 March 2020 10:44:37


 


I also wonder how long this herd immunity strategy will last if say in a month's time there is a rapidly growing number of deaths. The govt will come under a lot of pressure to react and they may conflate/confuse their strategy.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Exactly. Events, dear boy. Events.


The herd immunity strategy makes sense if you assume that the second wave will come in the autumn and last all winter. But rapidly rising numbers of deaths and pictures of very sick people lying in hospital corridors will cause public outrage.


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nsrobins
13 March 2020 10:45:14
Looks like all EFL games cancelled until April (Sky News)
Oh well - pub and more pub rather than pub and football it is then

Neil
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Justin W
13 March 2020 10:46:39


 


Exactly. Events, dear boy. Events.


The herd immunity strategy makes sense if you assume that the second wave will come in the autumn and last all winter. But rapidly rising numbers of deaths and pictures of very sick people lying in hospital corridors will cause public outrage.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


And of course achieving herd immunity by allowing 60% of the population to get Covid-19 means that doctors and other NHS staff will get sick as well. It is fraught with risk and a massive gamble, IMO.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?

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