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speckledjim
17 March 2020 09:27:42


 


Awful.


And yes  re. your other post - I saw stats yesterday but can't find them now - in the UK (or London, can't remember), 4.9% of 40-49 yos need hospitalisation. Can't remember what % of those need ICU.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


I believe the figure for ICUs was 5% of all cases

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NickR
17 March 2020 09:27:59


 


Are you going to keep your children isolated at home once the school closes? If not, then it won't work.....


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


We plan to try. More to the point, if, say, 2 or 3 families isolate then after 2-3 weeks you can be pretty sure they haven't got it. Kids can interact with a couple of friends. At school they are exposed to 100s, sometimes well over 1000.

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Caz
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17 March 2020 09:29:16


According to Jason ( husband ) she is really struggling , now one of the twins has it , Tash is in her early 40's 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

The government and NHS advice is:


Urgent advice: Use the NHS 111 online coronavirus service if:



  • you feel you cannot cope with your symptoms at home

  • your condition gets worse

  • your symptoms do not get better after 7 days

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Gooner
17 March 2020 09:29:46


 


Are you going to keep your children isolated at home once the school closes? If not, then it won't work.....


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Actually YES 

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speckledjim
17 March 2020 09:29:55


 


If I had children, would I keep them at home through this? Yes, absolutely. You don't seem to understand the magnitude of the threat and why other countries are basically shutting down everything. That will happen here - once Johnson realises that he is going to be responsible for a disaster. You haven't grasped if from the start.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


It is quite clear that you do not have children as keeping them isolated for weeks (possibly months) is cruelty and I will never do that. You clearly have not grasped it as we just need vulnerable groups to self isolate.

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Roger Parsons
17 March 2020 09:30:08


Did I read somewhere a doctor was treating a number of 40 year olds who were in a very serious way? ( on ventilators ) 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Sky has the following story of patients "under 40" - could that be what you noticed?


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nhs-doctor-warns-we-are-already-at-breaking-point-11958542


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Gooner
17 March 2020 09:30:47


The government and NHS advice is:


Urgent advice: Use the NHS 111 online coronavirus service if:



  • you feel you cannot cope with your symptoms at home

  • your condition gets worse

  • your symptoms do not get better after 7 days


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Top 2 ticked this is day 5 

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Justin W
17 March 2020 09:30:50


 


It is quite clear that you do not have children as keeping them isolated for weeks (possibly months) is cruelty and I will never do that. You clearly have not grasped it as we just need vulnerable groups to self isolate.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


You've been wrong from the start so I think we can safely ignore your platitudes.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
speckledjim
17 March 2020 09:30:57


 


Actually YES 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Wow, so they won't spend anytime with their peers for weeks and weeks on end. Good luck with that.

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speckledjim
17 March 2020 09:32:11


 


You've been wrong from the start so I think we can safely ignore your platitudes.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Err no I haven't. I may end up being wrong if hundreds of thousands of UK citizens die from this. But no one can see into the future so we will have to wait.

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Gooner
17 March 2020 09:33:06

If there is anything any of you do this evening read this.

This is real. It’s happening and it’s is frightening.

This isn’t a politician. This is a front line doctor.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nhs-doctor-warns-we-are-already-at-breaking-point-11958542

Basically we’re *******.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


^^^^^^

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Banbury
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warrenb
17 March 2020 09:34:04


 


Top 2 ticked this is day 5 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


They are exclusive to each other, so basically if it is any one of them, then phone 111, you don't have to have all 3.

Tonbridge 45m 
Gooner
17 March 2020 09:34:09


 


Sky has the following story of patients "under 40" - could that be what you noticed?


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nhs-doctor-warns-we-are-already-at-breaking-point-11958542


R


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


Thank you 

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Banbury
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Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 09:34:30


 


Who to believe? Maunder or the WHO?


Originally Posted by: NickR 


The CMO.

New world order coming.
Justin W
17 March 2020 09:35:49

There will be those who will take responsibility for their own behaviour and try to reduce the likelihood that they or their families are spreading the disease.


There will be others who will say things like 'all we need are the vulnerable to self isolate'. These are the ones who believe that protection of others is somebody else's responsibility, not their own. These are the people who will likely ignore the guidance and continue going to the pub, making unnecessary trips out to the shops every day and playing golf as usual. It will be the behaviour of these people which will guarantee the introduction of much more stringent restrictions which will be backed by the force of law.


 

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gooner
17 March 2020 09:36:38


 


They are exclusive to each other, so basically if it is any one of them, then phone 111, you don't have to have all 3.


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


111 said …………….self isolate 

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Banbury
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Gooner
17 March 2020 09:38:37


 


 


Wow, so they won't spend anytime with their peers for weeks and weeks on end. Good luck with that.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Why good luck , they love time with each other , I will throw them in truck and we will go for an isolated walk as advised - in this day an age with I phones etc , tv , consoles , the garden ,...………………..and homework , plenty to be going on with .

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 09:38:53

German hospitals chiefs have said they are gearing up to increase their intensive bed capacity nationwide from the current 28,000 to 34,000 with ventilators.


Currently 25,000 intensive care beds have ventilators. With 34,000 beds, experts say as long as the current measures slow the virus spread down sufficiently, they should be able to treat the tens of thousands they expect to have to be hospitalised over the next few months.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/17/coronavirus-live-news-updates-uk-us-australia-europe-france-italy-who-self-isolation-travel-bans-borders-latest-update


Didn't someone say we have 6000 in the UK?

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Caz
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17 March 2020 09:40:01


Top 2 ticked this is day 5 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

In which case, they need to use the online 111 service for urgent advice.

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speckledjim
17 March 2020 09:40:06


 


111 said …………….self isolate 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


If you are showing any symptoms then all your family need to self isolate. If your children are at school then you should really have them returned home. I've got a friend of mine and he and his family are all self isolating as he has one of the symptoms. He's also an NHS consultant so not ideal.

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speckledjim
17 March 2020 09:41:32


 


Why good luck , they love time with each other , I will throw them in truck and we will go for an isolated walk as advised - in this day an age with I phones etc , tv , consoles , the garden ,...………………..and homework , plenty to be going on with .


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


You're lucky. Not my 2 (girls 13 and 10) who only want to hang out with their mates.

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Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 09:42:39


German hospitals chiefs have said they are gearing up to increase their intensive bed capacity nationwide from the current 28,000 to 34,000 with ventilators.


Currently 25,000 intensive care beds have ventilators. With 34,000 beds, experts say as long as the current measures slow the virus spread down sufficiently, they should be able to treat the tens of thousands they expect to have to be hospitalised over the next few months.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/17/coronavirus-live-news-updates-uk-us-australia-europe-france-italy-who-self-isolation-travel-bans-borders-latest-update


Didn't someone say we have 6000 in the UK?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


At the outset, but the numbers are rising. Suggested online reading: Pulmonary fibrosis. That is what awaits those who survive the initial contagion who had to be ventilated.

New world order coming.
Gooner
17 March 2020 09:45:56


In which case, they need to use the online 111 service for urgent advice.


Originally Posted by: Caz 


They did and got told ………………...stay at home and self isolate 

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Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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NickR
17 March 2020 09:50:35


 


At the outset, but the numbers are rising. Suggested online reading: Pulmonary fibrosis. That is what awaits those who survive the initial contagion who had to be ventilated.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


20-30% of them, with a lack of clarity over whether the impacts are long-term, according to what I've seen.

Nick
Durham
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Heavy Weather 2013
17 March 2020 09:50:55

Our offices are now closed officially until further notice.

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