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NickR
17 March 2020 08:20:48
Superb list of what has worked/been good in different countries:

https://twitter.com/christoq/status/1239814816543342592?s=19 
Nick
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NickR
17 March 2020 08:22:01


">https://twitter.com/DanielFalush/status/1239771221694316545?s=19

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Very interesting set of Tweets. Firstly, at some point controls have to be relaxed, otherwise life grinds completely to a halt, but in the absence of a vaccine the infection just flares up again - we already knew that. Secondly, the other piece of information that the Government was basing its modelling on the impact of viral pneumonia, but in the light of data from Italy, intensive care demands of COVID-19 are @ twice those of viral pneumonia.


 



The point is there are ways to deal with flare ups that don't involve total suppression.


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Northern Sky
17 March 2020 08:26:10

My son's school is sending them on a trip to the cinema today for rewards day.


Justin W
17 March 2020 08:31:43


Yes Justin, I do get it and I do understand about asymptomatic carriers.  That was my reason for thinking earlier closure of borders was closing the stable door etc.  But surely, social distancing is to help protect us from the asymptomatic and those who are infected but are yet to show symptoms. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


You think schools should be kept open so, no, you don’t get it.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 08:31:47


 


I said yesterday Boris doesn’t do serious. This is deplorable if true. You have to question whether he is taking this whole issue seriously.


 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


He has never taken anything seriously in his entire life, from his personal life and philandering to his blatant lying as a journalist and a politician ("there will be no checks in the Irish sea" etc)


The perfect man to lead this failed state


 


 


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John p
17 March 2020 08:31:55

This is why we need total lockdown NOW.

Originally Posted by: NickR 

">https://twitter.com/christoq/status/1239814816543342592?s=19


Although that gives hope that the fatality rate could be much lower?


Camberley, Surrey
Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 08:33:47


My son's school is sending them on a trip to the cinema today for rewards day.



Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Strange. There was a school play planned at my grandchildren's school last Monday evening and we were all planning to go to watch my granddaughter in it. On Sunday, the school contacted all the parents to say it was cancelled in the light of corona virus. So I am surprised the cinema trip is going ahead.


 


New world order coming.
The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 08:36:22


 


Yes, even at the weekend I was shouted down for questioning the government's approach by some of our more Conservative "members".


The government has screwed up and death on a large scale will be the result.


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


That was Cummings plan all along. Wipe out the weak and economically inactive, a fitter, younger nation will emerge from the ashes to take on the world post Brexit


Look at Russia - the peasants are being wiped out, though officially zero cases


 


 


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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 08:36:31

This is why we need total lockdown NOW.

https://twitter.com/christoq/status/1239814816543342592?s=19


Originally Posted by: NickR 


That is very interesting indeed. It is the sort of testing I am suggesting should be happening in the UK. Presumably there will be an authoritative write up somewhere on what has happened there. It will provide valuable information for all countries.


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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 08:37:12


 


That was Cummings plan all along. Wipe out the weak and economically inactive, a fitter, younger nation will emerge from the ashes to take on the world post Brexit


Look at Russia - the peasants are being wiped out, though officially zero cases


 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


If that's true there will be no one left in Russia. The rest of them were topped in 1917.


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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 08:38:37


 


You think schools should be kept open so, no, you don’t get it.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Schools are potentially like a neutron bomb. I'm hearing they are likely to close this Friday. Quite why we're p1ssing about like this over a few days is beyond me. 


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speckledjim
17 March 2020 08:39:47


 


You think schools should be kept open so, no, you don’t get it.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


She does get it as do most of us on here. It's quite simple really, we just need vulnerable groups to self isolate. 


Thorner, West Yorkshire


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The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 08:40:23

This is why we need total lockdown NOW.

Originally Posted by: NickR 

">https://twitter.com/christoq/status/1239814816543342592?s=19


I will continue to go to the pub until it closes. I suspect that will happen soon anyway


But one of the regulars last night has a plan. He will set up his own "pop up" at his house. He is buying up cans and bottles from Tesco and we can go to his house and drink and he will charge a small mark up


Of course, we can buy our own beer and drink alone at home, but we want to meet and talk. We are social animals


Unless the Govt orders a total lockdown, we will congregate in a private house instead of the pub


 


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Rob K
17 March 2020 08:41:10
One thing that occurred to me: this virus will be doing more to reduce carbon emissions than a million Greta Thunbergs.
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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 08:42:53

One thing that occurred to me: this virus will be doing more to reduce carbon emissions than a million Greta Thunbergs.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


It's also possible many people will find a slower pace of life more pleasurable. On the other hand we could go back to consumption frenzy very quickly once this is all over. I don't know.


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Gooner
17 March 2020 08:43:37


 


What do you think the recommendation should be for those doing exams that will determine the rest of their lives? 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


OMG 


Wow lets remember exams - Jesus they aren't exactly top priority at the moment 


Reschedule maybe ????


 


We are in a time where only one thing matters ………….one thing , save lives 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
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Gooner
17 March 2020 08:45:42


If parents take care to protect their households with social distancing, self isolating etc, there’s less chance of sending their children to school with the virus.  The ones at risk will be those in crowded staff rooms, but again, if self isolation measures are followed, there’s less risk. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Still cant control it you are living in the ideal world , once children are out of the house most do as they please 


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Marcus
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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 08:46:00

Education is one of the most important things in life. I think the coronavirus epidemic will educate kids far more about the world they are inheriting than a few months or even years of school will. 


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The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 08:46:49


 


Schools are potentially like a neutron bomb. I'm hearing they are likely to close this Friday. Quite why we're p1ssing about like this over a few days is beyond me. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Giving more chance to spread. I think sufficient spread has already happened so the Cummings plan will work whatever happens at the end of the week


 


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The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 08:49:25


Education is one of the most important things in life. I think the coronavirus epidemic will educate kids far more about the world they are inheriting than a few months or even years of school will. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Take off the rose tinted specs


The young chavs in the pub last night were totally oblivious to the crisis and messing around on Instragram and gossiping about who was shagging who


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Northern Sky
17 March 2020 08:49:45


 


She does get it as do most of us on here. It's quite simple really, we just need vulnerable groups to self isolate. 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


I understand that but logistically how feasible is that? In some cases yes but how many hundreds of thousands (millions?) of people are there who fall into those vulnerable categories? I suspect that for many of them avoiding contact with either school children or school staff will be almost impossible. 


Schools are a place where illness spreads incredibly quickly. We are at the stage where the virus is spreading through the country and in effect we are allowing virus factories full of super spreaders to remain open.

Gooner
17 March 2020 08:50:05


Yes Justin, I do get it and I do understand about asymptomatic carriers.  That was my reason for thinking earlier closure of borders was closing the stable door etc.  But surely, social distancing is to help protect us from the asymptomatic and those who are infected but are yet to show symptoms. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Caz - but keeping the schools open is opposite to social distancing 


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Marcus
Banbury
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Gavin D
17 March 2020 08:50:07
National Holidays are postponing/cancelling all departures from Wednesday until April 30th
Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 08:50:52


 


Schools are potentially like a neutron bomb. I'm hearing they are likely to close this Friday. Quite why we're p1ssing about like this over a few days is beyond me. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Because there has been conflicting advice about the effects of school closure. This is not an exact science. Swedish schools are still open too.


It beats me why people are not more furious that proper travel restrictions were not brought in at an early stage - that was the real failing for all European countries.


New world order coming.
Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 08:52:40


It beats me why people are not more furious that proper travel restrictions were not brought in at an early stage - that was the real failing for all European countries.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


What about the US? Trump is a nationalist and isolationist. Nonetheless it seems as though corona is well rooted there too.


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