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Darren S
17 March 2020 15:02:10


 


I am booked on a Ryanair flight to Spain on Saturday. Obviously, I am not going however, Ryanair are not cancelling the flights, which means that I cannot get a refund.  It is impossible to go on the site and get a refund for anything. There are problems with the site accepting booking references of people whose flights have been cancelled. It keeps telling them that their ref is wrong. Funnily enough, if you want to change dates, it does work! Once flights ARE changed, it then charges you twice for luggage, and the new dates prices are far and away much more than if you were making a direct booking. I am assuming here that Ryanair are avoiding cancelling flights so they can avoid refunding people.  They are unable to get through on app/website/web chat/email/DM/ or phone so are appearing as a no show, therefore no refund. 


Originally Posted by: chelseagirl 


This is bad.


A big thumbs up to BA; we had booked flights and hotels to the Caribbean on 28th March. Within 24 hours of one of our destinations barring UK residents from entry, we had an email from BA saying the holiday was off and we'd be receiving a full refund. We didn't have to ask for it or anything.

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Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
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speckledjim
17 March 2020 15:04:52


 


Discussed this with Brian yesterday - he is leaving packages unopened and untouched for 24 hours.


Is there a better idea?


The real problem comes with foodstuffs, like the milk we get delivered and the online shopping many people use - you cannot leave food unopened.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


Can you not just wipe them with an anti bacterial wipe?

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Chunky Pea
17 March 2020 15:05:46

Total number of deaths in Italy (sadly still rising at a steady rate) compared with the mortality rate (%) of total confirmed cases. Data is up to 8am this morning. 


 



 


If there is one encouraging thing to take from this, is that the mortality rate has 'steadied' somewhat. 


My source as always: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/novel-coronavirus-china


 


Edit, blue is no. of deaths (cumulative) and orange line is % rate) 


 


 

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Justin W
17 March 2020 15:05:46


 


 


Can you not just wipe them with an anti bacterial wipe?


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


It’s a virus. Not bacterial. 

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Gavin D
17 March 2020 15:05:53
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speckledjim
17 March 2020 15:06:06


 


Again we should remember that the UK is actually well ahead of the rest of Europe in this regard. It's also the reason we are behind other countries in terms of the epidemic trajectory.


Our testing continues to ramp up and is still easily the best in Europe with the possible exception of Italy.


 


Obviously it doesn't come close to SK.


 


I stopped praising the UK when we moved from 'containment' to 'delay'. Regardless of how the UK is performing during this phase, it's performance during containment was excellent. Perhaps the mistake was moving to delay too early.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Yes, we are 2nd only to Italy in Europe. As of yesterday they had tested 138,000

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Quantum
17 March 2020 15:06:36


 


 


Can you not just wipe them with an anti bacterial wipe?


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Be careful. Some wipes do not work.


Check to see if the wipe contains ethanol. If it's 60%+ ethanol it is extremely effective against COVID.


 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
JHutch
17 March 2020 15:07:22

3800 more ventilators expected in the next few weeks.

xioni2
17 March 2020 15:08:20


 Be careful. Some wipes do not work.


Check to see if the wipe contains ethanol. If it's 60%+ ethanol it is extremely effective against COVID.


 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


That's correct IMO.


speckledjim
17 March 2020 15:08:49


 


It’s a virus. Not bacterial. 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I thought they were effective but happy to stand corrected.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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JHutch
17 March 2020 15:09:11


 


Yes, we are 2nd only to Italy in Europe. As of yesterday they had tested 138,000


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


How do the figures compare with other nations per head of population?

speckledjim
17 March 2020 15:09:52


 


That's correct IMO.



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Thought as much, thanks. I was worried for a minute as that's what I've been using a lot

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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xioni2
17 March 2020 15:10:01

Yeah, they expect stabilisation this week and then the daily number of deaths to start dropping next week. Let's hope they are right, because there is not much else they can do.


 



Total number of deaths in Italy (sadly still rising at a steady rate) compared with the mortality rate (%) of total confirmed cases. Data is up to 8am this morning. 


 



 


If there is one encouraging thing to take from this, is that the mortality rate has 'steadied' somewhat. 


My source as always: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/novel-coronavirus-china


 


Edit, blue is no. of deaths (cumulative) and orange line is % rate) 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

Quantum
17 March 2020 15:11:00


 


I thought they were effective but happy to stand corrected.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Some are, especially if they contain ethanol. I read a study that showed that Ethanol is slightly more effective than even Bleech (although that is probably pure ethanol, so for deep cleaning bleech is probably your best bet).


Nothing else came close to Bleech or ethanol.

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
xioni2
17 March 2020 15:12:07


 Thought as much, thanks. I was worried for a minute as that's what I've been using a lot


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Moments of paranoia help 


I forgot to mention that my neighbour virologist had mentioned the same for high alcohol substances.


 

speckledjim
17 March 2020 15:12:15


 


How do the figures compare with other nations per head of population?


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


We are well ahead of France and Germany. I haven't got any up to date figures but as at 12/13 March we were significantly ahead of all

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Quantum
17 March 2020 15:12:19

In lieu of that though, kill it with heat and time.


The more heat, the less time you need.


Even low heat in cooking terms will render everything completely safe.


 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Justin W
17 March 2020 15:13:12
Most anti bacterial wipes don’t contain alcohol. We use neat isopropyl alcohol in a spray
Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 15:14:29


 


Discussed this with Brian yesterday - he is leaving packages unopened and untouched for 24 hours.


Is there a better idea?


The real problem comes with foodstuffs, like the milk we get delivered and the online shopping many people use - you cannot leave food unopened.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Yes that is correct.


Wrt foodstuffs we are separating in the fridge. For example, meat from is going into a part of the fridge and will not be touched for 24 hours min. Quantum or others may say the method is not particularly effective but I can't think of anything better.

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NickR
17 March 2020 15:14:46


 


Thought as much, thanks. I was worried for a minute as that's what I've been using a lot


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


DETTOL wipes specifically say they kill human coronavirus and flu.

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Quantum
17 March 2020 15:15:25

Most anti bacterial wipes don’t contain alcohol. We use neat isopropyl alcohol in a spray

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Indeed.


Although ethanol in a spray is also fine. Not sure how effective the different alcohols are compared to each other. Pretty sure isopropanol is good, and ethanol is very good.


 


 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
xioni2
17 March 2020 15:16:21

Most anti bacterial wipes don’t contain alcohol. We use neat isopropyl alcohol in a spray

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


You can do even better


Quantum
17 March 2020 15:16:28

Bacardi 151 is 75% ethanol incidentally.

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Caz
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17 March 2020 15:17:13

My wife have birth on Sunday morning and we are now back home. I was trying not to look much at the news if I'm honest. Speaking to the staff in the maternity hospital it didn't strike me that they had been given much forewarning of what is to come. Really glad she gave birth then rather than in a month or so. Next dilemma, my nearly 82 year old father lives alone. Generally good health though but when can he see his grandson...

Originally Posted by: howham 

Congratulations to you both!  

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Chunky Pea
17 March 2020 15:17:23

European data up to this morning, ordered by total No. of confirmed cases in the last 15 days:




























































































































































































































































































































































CountryConfirmed casesNo. of deathsNo of cases in last 15 daysMortality rate %
Italy279802158262917.71
Spain919130991083.36
France663314865032.23
Germany60121358830.22
Switzerland22001421760.64
United Kingdom15435515073.56
Netherlands14132414001.70
Norway1169311500.26
Sweden1121711070.62
Belgium1085510830.46
Austria1016310020.30
Denmark93219280.11
Greece35243451.14
Czech Republic34403410.00
Portugal33103310.00
Finland27202660.00
Slovenia25302530.00
Ireland22322220.90
Estonia20502040.00
Iceland19901960.00
Romania18401810.00
Poland17741772.26
San Marino1029948.82
Russia930910.00
Slovakia840840.00
Luxembourg811801.23
Bulgaria622623.23
Serbia570570.00
Albania511511.96
Armenia520510.00
Hungary501502.00
Croatia560490.00
Cyprus400400.00
Latvia360360.00
Belarus360350.00
Georgia330300.00
Malta300300.00
Moldova290290.00
Bosnia and Herzegovina210210.00
North Macedonia190180.00
Azerbaijan190160.00
Lithuania170160.00
Andorra140140.00
Monaco9080.00
Liechtenstein7070.00
Ukraine5050.00
Kosovo2020.00
Holy See1010.00
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