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Chunky Pea
17 March 2020 15:37:36


 


The Empire will strike back.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


'New World Order Coming'


This is true, but not in the way he might expect! 


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The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 15:39:41


 


Interesting thought - M25 ring fenced and nobody allowed to leave.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Im hoping its only central london


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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 15:39:57


 


The fridge is probably the best possible environment for the virus. Moist, and about 4C, those are 'lab' type conditions where the virus can live potentially months.


 


Cold does not kill the virus. If in doubt heat.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


It raises a lot of questions. For example cheese can be safely stored (surface mould can be removed) at room temperature IME but it quickly goes dry or overripe. At the same time there are issues with the freezing approach as you flagged up in response to my query. In our case it is simply not practical to cook all of the order being delivered tomorrow and I expect we will stick some in the freezer and take the risk.    


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Quantum
17 March 2020 15:40:11

This cold = good seems to be a dangerous misconception. In the oven at 100C the virus probably lasts seconds. Even at 60C the lifetime is probably minutes. Lifetime increases as temperature falls.


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 15:40:50


Stanley Johnson, father of the UK prime minister, has indicated he would ignore official advice to tackle the spread of coronavirus and still go to the pub.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Top man!


Hope he can persuade his son not to close them


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Quantum
17 March 2020 15:42:55


 


It raises a lot of questions. For example cheese can be safely stored (surface mould can be removed) at room temperature IME but it quickly goes dry or overripe. At the same time there are issues with the freezing approach as you flagged up in response to my query. In our case it is simply not practical to cook all of the order being delivered tomorrow and I expect we will stick some in the freezer and take the risk.    


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I mean there is nothing wrong with freezing for all the usual reasons.What I'm recommending is that any food you put in the freezer you keep well away from anything else you intend to eat raw after defrosting.


And if you want to be sure, all you have to do is cook anything you want to eat after it has defrosted.


 


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
xioni2
17 March 2020 15:43:48

I thought I should check Ocado and this what I got, one hour delay before accessing the website. Next week is probably my last delivery from them for a while 



 

warrenb
17 March 2020 15:45:11


I thought I should check Ocado and this what I got, one hour delay before accessing the website. Next week is probably my last delivery from them for a while 



 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


I was stuck in that today. It does go pretty quick to be honest. After going on last night to book next weeks and only getting one for the 27th March I have now also booked one for the following week. We shall not be denied our Avocado's and Humus


David M Porter
17 March 2020 15:45:27


New cases could start to fall in two to three weeks


 


 




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Let's hope so!


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
nouska
17 March 2020 15:45:33


 


The fridge is probably the best possible environment for the virus. Moist, and about 4C, those are 'lab' type conditions where the virus can live potentially months.


 


Cold does not kill the virus. If in doubt heat.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


At this moment I'm only concerned with contaminated packaging coming in from outside. Everything will be cooked before use but thanks for the advice as there are many who will not have thought about wider risks.

Chunky Pea
17 March 2020 15:45:44


This cold = good seems to be a dangerous misconception. In the oven at 100C the virus probably lasts seconds. Even at 60C the lifetime is probably minutes. Lifetime increases as temperature falls.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


A hot sunny summer ahead (of which I would not be a fan of) would surely help? Summer sun can heat outdoor surfaces at least well above 60c. 


Current Conditions
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The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 15:46:01


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The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 15:47:27


 


Let's hope so!


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Vallance is our version of Comical Ali


 


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Quantum
17 March 2020 15:49:09


 


At this moment I'm only concerned with contaminated packaging coming in from outside. Everything will be cooked before use but thanks for the advice as there are many who will not have thought about wider risks.


Originally Posted by: nouska 


I'm just leaving all forgein objects near the radiator for a couple of days atm.


Will try and 'upgrade' to some alcohol sprays.


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 15:49:38

From one of our local breweries:


NEW OPTION – BEER TO YOUR CAR

For those customers who are reluctant to come into the shop, we are now offering a service where we will bring your order out to your parked car. The process for this is very simple and is as follows:

• Call the shop as usual and place your order.
• You will be asked to make an over the phone card payment.
• We will take your car model, colour and registration.
• On arrival at the brewery, park up and call and we will bring your order out to you.


Brian Gaze
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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 15:51:03


 


Vallance is our version of Comical Ali


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


They've give his deputy a run out in the media today. By all accounts he isn't a "great" performer either so Vallance may be safe for a while.


Brian Gaze
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chelseagirl
17 March 2020 15:51:55


If it’s Just to provide for a possible shortage over the next 3or 4 months, you could make soft cheese but it takes quite a while for hard cheese to mature and needs the right conditions, so buying it and freezing it might the best.  You can also freeze fresh milk.  If it’s for something to do while in isolation, I think it’s an interesting experiment.  


Originally Posted by: Caz 


If you buy those ice cube bags on a roll, you can freeze milk in portions, then just use one at a time. The boiling water for tea and coffee will melt it. It means you don’t have to defrost a big container. 


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The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 15:53:16


 




"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 15:53:38

Schools across England are announcing full or partial closures because of staff shortages, suggesting that widespread closures and government intervention isn’t far off. The UK and Belarus are alone in Europe in requiring all schools to remain open.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/17/coronavirus-live-news-updates-uk-us-australia-europe-france-italy-who-self-isolation-travel-bans-borders-latest-update


 


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"I'm not socialist, I know that. I don't believe in sharing my money." - Gary Numan
westv
17 March 2020 15:56:09

I'm going to irradiate all packages from outside and then store in a lead lined underground chamber.


At least it will be mild!
Quantum
17 March 2020 15:58:07


I'm going to irradiate all packages from outside and then store in a lead lined underground chamber.


Originally Posted by: westv 



But you know just because you irradiate something doesn't mean it becomes radioactive!


2024/2025 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 2 days with snow/sleet falling
18/11 (-6), 19/11 (-6)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)
2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.
18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)
2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp): Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
The Beast from the East
17 March 2020 15:58:40


If we have to stay at home for prolonged periods, I am thinking how lucky we are to have the Internet. Books and board games and gardening etc. can always help, but the Internet will make a lot of difference. 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


And to think that puritan hag Theresa May wanted to ban porn


One thing I can cheer Boris for is cancelling that idea


Only problem is the tissue shortage.....


 


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Arcus
17 March 2020 15:58:41


I'm going to irradiate all packages from outside and then store in a lead lined underground chamber.


Originally Posted by: westv 


I'm going to nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Heavy Weather 2013
17 March 2020 15:59:51

The US is going to issue cheques to american citizens, in place of a tax break holiday. Potentially up to $1000 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Perthite1
17 March 2020 16:00:45


 


 


Well said, Darren.


A balance still needs to be struck so that society doesn't self-destruct. 


The danger of allowing economic ruin and the massive human cost of that would dwarf the impact of Co-19, even if we talk of 250k Co-19 deaths.


So, whilst we need to take measures to protect the vulnerable, we must not store up problems for the future that will unfairly impact other groups, whether they be small businesses, entire industries, or school pupils.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


We need QE for the people. Essentially instead of bailing out the banks it will be what should have been done in 2008. Over the next year to 18 months the government will pay most of our wages, either through tax cuts for business under the offer of continued wages or for the greater majority direct into their bank accounts. Most utilities will be nationalised. Small businesses will be protected in some way. A debt jubilee will have to occur either a complete write off or much more likely suspended mortgage oayments, credit cards and personal loans. We may see nationalised banks due the risk of most of them collapsing. 


With out the above we will see a greater financial collapse than 1929, things may never be the same again after this pandemic. In some ways we have to learn the hard way, and a very bad thing can create positive outcomes for the future. 

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