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xioni2
18 March 2020 14:26:58


 Quite a jump in the % of positive cases. I believe it was 6.5% yesterday


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


I guess it will be noisy, but we could well have opened the corona taps now.


 

Rob K
18 March 2020 14:27:32


Hedonism never stops:


The online wine retailer Naked Wines has stopped taking new orders, citing a “surge” in demand yesterday from customers stuck at home.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


I have a Naked Wines account and they have been bombarding me with emails asking me to stock up. Never mind bog roll, that’s the kind of stockpiling I need. It was my birthday yesterday and my sister-in-law got me a beer delivery subscription too. 


Why should people stop enjoying the nice things in life while they can?


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Gavin D
18 March 2020 14:28:00


 


Quite a jump in the % of positive cases. I believe it was 6.5% yesterday


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


 


11.6% for today's update which passes the previous high of 9.16% on the 15th


 


Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 14:29:51


I guess it will be noisy, but we could well have opened the corona taps now. 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


On the face of it the numbers seem very grim to me. A complete lock-down in London may be necessary if we are to avoid Lombardy on steroids.


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xioni2
18 March 2020 14:30:13


 Unfortunately people become primitive in times such as these. Therefore it is important for the more educated and intelligent members of society to tread very carefully. To my mind she is close to saying homosexuals and single mothers are doing the devil's work. In fact I worry there will be a major backlash against certain minority groups as "less sophisticated" people struggle to understand there are no easy answers.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


You should know that allowing homosexuals to get married has led to widespread flooding and now a highly infectious virus.


God's fury!


 

Maunder Minimum
18 March 2020 14:34:45


 


Unfortunately people become primitive in times such as these. Therefore it is important for the more educated and intelligent members of society to tread very carefully. To my mind she is close to saying homosexuals and single mothers are doing the devil's work. In fact I worry there will be a major backlash against certain minority groups as "less sophisticated" people struggle to understand there are no easy answers.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/jewish/1348-jewsblackdeath.asp


 


New world order coming.
Hungry Tiger
18 March 2020 14:37:37


 


France too. Also Greece today announced 'helicopter money', any worker who stops working due to the virus will start getting 800 euros per month. That's well above the minimum wage.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


We'll have to think seriously about that here. After the US is givng each worker $1,000 per month.


 


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Gavin D
18 March 2020 14:37:50
China have reported 13 new confirmed cases and 11 new deaths (all in Hubei) and 21 suspected cases.

922 more patients were discharged with 1014 released from self-isolation.
xioni2
18 March 2020 14:37:55


 On the face of it the numbers seem very grim to me. A complete lock-down in London may be necessary if we are to avoid Lombardy on steroids.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Agreed, the numbers seem grim. On average it takes several days for symptoms to appear, then a few days longer for escalation to pneumonia (mostly for the vulnerable ones), then patients usually stay in the ICU for weeks before they die.


This is all pretty speculative, but for many cases we are probably talking a lag of almost a month between someone vulnerable being infected and dying.


 

Saint Snow
18 March 2020 14:39:10


Good lord. Surely a freeborn citizen would recognise the responsibilities towards others that they have?


 


'I’ll take my chances, as I’d rather die as a freeborn citizen doing the things that freeborn citizens do, than cower like a dog in a kennel because the Government has ordered me to do so. I won’t do it. '


https://conservativewoman.co.uk/liberty-shackled-and-the-future-blighted-rip-europe-312-2020-we-had-a-good-run/


 


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


 


I think the most devastatingly pathetic career ambition is as a wannabee Katie Hopkins.


The most idiotic aspect of the entire puerile article is that it singles out 'Europe' for imposing measures to slow/arrest the spread of CV, when similarly draconian measures have been enacted in China, South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Taiwan and increasing areas of the USA.


 


 



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Chunky Pea
18 March 2020 14:39:54

Our supreme serpentine leader, who last night gave a national address standing between two flags in the embarrassingly contrived effort to appear more 'statesman like' said that there is a 'this is only the calm before the storm' and that we should trust our national media and health service.. literally the worst in Europe.. as being the only reliable source of information. 


He's worth every penny of his 210,000 Euro + annual salary.  


 


 


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Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 14:46:16


 


We'll have to think seriously about that here. After the US is givng each worker $1,000 per month.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


I agree. When I heard the outline of Sunak's package yesterday I immediately thought it was poor and would quickly need revisiting. I now think he will have to double to £600 billion this week and give grants rather than loans. If things continue getting worse he will have to push out beyond £1 trillion.


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Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 14:47:51

From the police below. Internment will be here before the end of this month IMO.


In these unprecedented times, the spirit shown nationally, to help each other, has been tremendous, however sadly I need to make you aware of opportunists


Yesterday we received reports of opportunists taking advantage of the current Coronavirus pandemic, by posting flyers through doors in Bishops Stortford, requesting food donations for the YMCA foodbanks, unfortunately it’s sad to report that this is a scam. The YMCA have not been involved in this initiative.


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xioni2
18 March 2020 14:48:32


 Agreed, the numbers seem grim. On average it takes several days for symptoms to appear, then a few days longer for escalation to pneumonia (mostly for the vulnerable ones), then patients usually stay in the ICU for weeks before they die.


This is all pretty speculative, but for many cases we are probably talking a lag of almost a month between someone vulnerable being infected and dying.


 

Originally Posted by: xioni2 


And I didn't make the obvious follow up: this is why it's so wrong for the govt to be wasting time now, every day counts and will impact the ICUs 3-4 weeks later. OK they might have had the wrong advice and strategy last week, but not since last weekend, they shouldn't be wasting all this time now. Every measure should be taken to stop socialising.

Hungry Tiger
18 March 2020 14:51:47


 


I agree. When I heard the outline of Sunak's package yesterday I immediately thought it was poor and would quickly need revisiting. I now think he will have to double to £600 billion this week and give grants rather than loans. If things continue getting worse he will have to push out beyond £1 trillion.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Scary.


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Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 14:52:36

This just now in the Tele. Expect it will be busy on the M1 northbound tonight.  (Unless the army is already deployed)


London braces for lockdown as Government prepares emergency Coronavirus Bill


It came as sources close to the mayor’s office say they expect a shutdown of the capital in the coming days as the Government prepares emergency legislation.


 


Edit: There will be mass panic when this is announced so expect rationing to be enforced


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The Beast from the East
18 March 2020 14:54:37


 


I agree. When I heard the outline of Sunak's package yesterday I immediately thought it was poor and would quickly need revisiting. I now think he will have to double to £600 billion this week and give grants rather than loans. If things continue getting worse he will have to push out beyond £1 trillion.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Sunak at select committee saying no extra money for those on SSP and ESA. How does someone live off £92 a week, with bills to pay etc


After revealing the magic money tree has no limits, he cant get away with short changing the poor


The Austerity argument has totally been debunked as is the entire basis of conservative "we must balance the books" economics.


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Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 14:56:01


 


Sunak at select committee saying no extra money for those on SSP and ESA. How does someone live off £92 a week, with bills to pay etc


After revealing the magic money tree has no limits, he cant get away with short changing the poor


The Austerity argument has totally been debunked as is the entire basis of conservative "we must balance the books" economics.


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


It is completely unacceptable, especially in the south east  / London. There will be civil unrest if he doesn't quickly move and hand out a lot more money.


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speckledjim
18 March 2020 14:57:54


 


This is confirmed cases rather than actual so will be a big underestimate, but the data being inputed is also a big underestimate.


If testing gets significantly better and the approximation that we are testing a given proportion of cases is no longer valid I will add a new parameter for that into the model.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


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David M Porter
18 March 2020 14:58:39


 


So not everything is downhill then.


Are there any major events apart from the Olympics which have not been cancelled yet?


Surely Wimbledon cannot go ahead this year.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


If it does go ahead, it will surely have to be delayed until towards the end of the tennis season in this country, as had happened with the French Open.


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xioni2
18 March 2020 14:58:48


London braces for lockdown as Government prepares emergency Coronavirus Bill


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Almost inevitable I think, but still too slow to happen.


A positive aspect I was thinking is that London is less densely populated than Milan and even less so than Wuhan. Many more terraced houses here even in the centre, lots more suburbia, more gardens, more parks and also quite a few empty houses of the foreign rich. Let's hope this makes us less of a hotspot.

Heavy Weather 2013
18 March 2020 14:58:54


This just now in the Tele. Expect it will be busy on the M1 northbound tonight.  (Unless the army is already deployed)


London braces for lockdown as Government prepares emergency Coronavirus Bill


It came as sources close to the mayor’s office say they expect a shutdown of the capital in the coming days as the Government prepares emergency legislation.


 


Edit: There will be mass panic when this is announced so expect rationing to be enforced


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


This ties in perfectly with my comments yesterday around the queen being moved to Windsor


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The Beast from the East
18 March 2020 14:59:24


 


Are you a nihilist, a sociopath or a hypocrite?


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Probably a combination of all 3. When I was younger, Alan B'Stard was my hero


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Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 15:00:25


 


This ties in perfectly with my comments yesterday around the queen being moved to Windsor


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Yes I read your comments yesterday. Seems you were right.


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The Beast from the East
18 March 2020 15:04:00


 


It is completely unacceptable, especially in the south east  / London. There will be civil unrest if he doesn't quickly move and hand out a lot more money.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


As I said, the whole fabric of conservative economics is being dismantled and they are terrified of this more than the virus itself.


If we can just create £350bn out of nothing, why did we have 10 years of austerity which led to the premature deaths of 100,000 poor people?


Why not solve the homeless crisis by paying for them  to stay at the Barclay Brother owned Ritz , which is empty?


 


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